AnimeSuki Forums

Register Forum Rules FAQ Members List Social Groups Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   AnimeSuki Forum > Anime Discussion > Older Series > Hanasaku Iroha

Notices

View Poll Results: Hanasaku Iroha - Episode 16 Rating
Perfect 10 5 12.20%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 9 21.95%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 10 24.39%
7 out of 10 : Good 10 24.39%
6 out of 10 : Average 5 12.20%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 1 2.44%
4 out of 10 : Poor 1 2.44%
3 out of 10 : Bad 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
1 out of 10 : Painful 0 0%
Voters: 41. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 2011-07-17, 05:10   Link #1
Pellissier
♪~ Daydreaming ~♪
*Graphic Designer
*Administrator
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Italy
Hanasaku Iroha - Episode 16 Discussion / Poll

Welcome to the discussion thread for Hanasaku Iroha, Episode 16.

Thread Guidelines
  • Raw requests and offers are not permitted anywhere on this forum.
  • Spoilers or hints about future events must not be posted in this thread.
    If you need to reference something that would spoil a future event, reply directly with a private message, or seek out a more appropriate thread.
  • Discuss your expectations of the episode if it has not aired yet.
  • Be polite to your fellow forum members.
  • Please try to keep the discussion on-topic.
  • Do not post multiple times in a row. Please edit your existing post if you wish to add additional thoughts.
Episode Thread Spoiler Policy
  • Any comment that discloses events, characters, plot or other information before it is revealed in the anime is expressly forbidden whether or not it is behind spoiler tags.
    Spoiler tags should still be used where appropriate.
    Please consult the AnimeSuki Spoiler Policy for more information.
  • Adding a Spoiler tag:
    Just highlight your spoiler and click the button found
    on the "Quick Reply" and "Reply to Thread" forms.
    Make sure that you include a useful title!
  • Please use the Report button if you see any inappropriate spoilers:
    Click the button found to the left of the post, just under the poster's avatar.
    Using the Report button is anonymous and helps the Moderators
    locate and deal with problems quickly.
  • Posting inappropriate spoilers may result in a ban.
    Note: Reporting a post does not mean the poster will be banned instantly.
    The Moderators will use bans if warnings are repeatedly ignored.
Pellissier is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2011-07-17, 09:57   Link #2
Midonin
Last Engage
 
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Florida
HSI 16 - Like No Business I Know

Using an inn/hotel as the site for a movie? That instantly reminded me of Mackinac, but I don't think Kissuiso and Yunosagi will suddenly turn into a tourist town. The idea of filming a movie, though, is something I can totally get behind as a plot point. Didn't know Ensishi had filmmaking ambitions. Given his dialogue, it sounds like something he would've preferred to stick with. Not surprised that Satsuki is somehow integral to who he is - Ohana's doing the same to her friends.

On another side, lots of Nako this episode. She may be shy, but that doesn't mean she doesn't want to see her name in lights. And she's finally got a pool on grounds! Which means more swimsuits, more Nako showing us what she can do. Overall, a nice episode. Not that filmmaking doesn't have its complications (it does), but things went fairly smoothly, and everyone got a chance to shine.

Ending the episode with a phone call can't be good news. It can be, but it's highly unlikely.
Midonin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2011-07-17, 10:09   Link #3
Peanutbutter
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
That phone call gave me the creeps.

It can't be all sweet and nice for this arc, right? Something feels really off.

Nothing else really happened in this ep. Things are just being set up.

Next week:

Spoiler:
Peanutbutter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2011-07-17, 11:09   Link #4
serenade_beta
マジ天使
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
It is nice to see an arc that is calm and doesn't start with Ohana bursting into somewhere because she didn't like something, but:
1. Takano's character has the attractive level of 0
2. Waka's character also is 0
So anything focused around them is not interesting.

I guess the part where that movie director got close to Waka was funny and the end's phone was intriguing, but that was it.
__________________

-Tried to start a blog --> http://tdnshumi.blogspot.com/ (Mainly about video games)
-R.I.P. Hiroshi Yamauchi, Gaming wouldn't have been the same without you (9/19/13)
serenade_beta is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2011-07-17, 11:29   Link #5
Kanon
Kana Hanazawa ♥
 
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: France
Age: 27
That was an awesome episode for Nako fans like myself. She was even more lovely than usual in this episode, I'd even go as far as to say she stole Ohana's thunder this week. The more I see her, the more I love her; I seriously can't wait for her arc (I hope we'll see her brothers, I want to see how she reacts around them). I didn't think she'd be so psyched about the prospect of featuring in a movie considering how shy she is. Ren, on the other hand, reacted exactly as I expected

Quote:
Originally Posted by Peanutbutter003 View Post
It can't be all sweet and nice for this arc, right? Something feels really off.
I couldn't shake the feeling something was going to go horribly wrong while watching the episode. It felt off in the sense it seems to good to be true.

The storyline of this episode reminded me of what's happening in real life with Hanasaku Iroha. If an anime can boost tourism then surely, a movie can as well (if it's good, that is). Enishi was surprisingly competent this time around (his sidekick is still horribly annoying though), and it was interesting to learn he used to be an aspiring writer. In the end, Satsuki is the one who became a writer... coincidence?
As I thought, Tomoe's guess was spot-on. Enishi's a definitely a siscon.

PS:


What the hell were they trying to do here? Fly like witches?
__________________
Mikan & Yami
Kanon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2011-07-17, 12:02   Link #6
Blaat
AS member for 10 years
 
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
The phone call is the director saying that the location didn't match up with his vision so the entire deal is cancelled so Enishi will try and save face by directing his own movie (hence Ohana being shot in the preview)

And yes Enishi is a major siscon.
__________________
Blaat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2011-07-17, 12:25   Link #7
frubam
singing heartbreak
 
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
Age: 31
Send a message via AIM to frubam
Although I had that impression after seeing him grab Satsuki in the flashback in ep 13(?), I figured it'd be no way some siscon fetish, since he generally seemed afraid of her, esp when he complained about being pushed around by her a lot. I also thought THAT was the reason he liked Takako so much(though Takako isn't nearly as rambunctious as Satsuki was/is). Quite interesting indeed =03.

And is anyone else getting the idea that Beanman and Okami have/had something else going on behind the scenes ?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blaat View Post
The phone call is the director saying that the location didn't match up with his vision so the entire deal is cancelled so Enishi will try and save face by directing his own movie (hence Ohana being shot in the preview)
I wouldn't be surprised if it was the hospital calling for Ohana that Ko got into an accident, but your guess sounds more feasible =03.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanon View Post
PS:


What the hell were they trying to do here? Fly like witches?
That was my guess. I REALLY liked the way Ohana was looking when she was trying to 'concentrate' .
frubam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2011-07-17, 13:10   Link #8
TinyRedLeaf
. . .
 
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Singapore
Age: 39
Wait, what, Kissuiso has a pool?

How come we see it only now?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanon View Post
Enishi's a definitely a siscon.
Well, he does seem to like being under the thumb of stronger women.
TinyRedLeaf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2011-07-17, 13:24   Link #9
ZGMF-X10A
Tsukiyomi -Moon Phase-
 
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Send a message via MSN to ZGMF-X10A
finally something exciting is going to happen
Spoiler for Ohana is going to ...:


more Yuina action next episode woot
__________________
ZGMF-X10A is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2011-07-17, 13:32   Link #10
Roger Rambo
Sensei, aishite imasu
 
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Hong Kong Shatterdome
You know what? I'm kind of interested in the fact nobody is picking on the MASSIVE Freudian issues coming from Enishi here.


"Frankly it's flabbergasting"

Enishi having random flashbacks about how Mommy isn't paying attention to him? Being awestruck at the vision of his older sister dramatically bursting out of the water while wearing a swimsuit, and in general feeling inadequate compared to her? And then making a college film about that? Dear god Enishi. You are a mind boggling walking bag of problems. Even Jirou and Takako are starting to realize how screwed up you are.

I'm betting on even more Freud next episode!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Midonin View Post
Using an inn/hotel as the site for a movie? That instantly reminded me of Mackinac, but I don't think Kissuiso and Yunosagi will suddenly turn into a tourist town. The idea of filming a movie, though, is something I can totally get behind as a plot point. Didn't know Ensishi had filmmaking ambitions. Given his dialogue, it sounds like something he would've preferred to stick with. Not surprised that Satsuki is somehow integral to who he is - Ohana's doing the same to her friends.
I find hilarious how meta this is. The IRL show Hanasaku Iroha creates allot of tourism for this region...and now they're doing the same thing INSIDE the show. I loled.
Quote:
Originally Posted by frubam View Post
And is anyone else getting the idea that Beanman and Okami have/had something else going on behind the scenes ?
...but...Beanman is gay.


Quote:
Originally Posted by frubam View Post
I wouldn't be surprised if it was the hospital calling for Ohana that Ko got into an accident, but your guess sounds more feasible =03.
That wouldn't make sense at all. This entire episode has focused on Enishi, setting up things with him to be resolved next episode. That development wouldn't make sense.

Last edited by Roger Rambo; 2011-07-17 at 13:43.
Roger Rambo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2011-07-17, 13:40   Link #11
0utf0xZer0
Pretentious moe scholar
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Age: 27
Loved this episode. Lots of fun with the girls (including a few Tomoe scenes) plus a bit of character development for Enishi. The girls have really developed some good chemistry together over the course of this show.

My favourite moment was probably the bit where Ohana, Nako, and Tomoe start signaling for Minchi to come over to join their huddle.

I'm wondering what Ohana and Nako were doing with the broomsticks though... couldn't stop thinking of that Strike Witches II episode.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanon View Post
The storyline of this episode reminded me of what's happening in real life with Hanasaku Iroha. If an anime can boost tourism then surely, a movie can as well (if it's good, that is).
I'm thinking that was actually the inspiration for this episode.

Surprised to see how far Enishi and Takako go back, as well as how competent they came across this episode compared to previously. Kind of pours cold water on my theory that Enishi and Tomoe will hook up.

Curious to see what Jiromaru's script turns out to be like.
__________________

Signature courtesy of Ganbaru.
0utf0xZer0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2011-07-17, 13:43   Link #12
ZGMF-X10A
Tsukiyomi -Moon Phase-
 
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Send a message via MSN to ZGMF-X10A

more Yuina, Minko and Nako screentime
__________________
ZGMF-X10A is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2011-07-17, 14:01   Link #13
frubam
singing heartbreak
 
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
Age: 31
Send a message via AIM to frubam
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger Rambo View Post
...but...Beanman is gay. :eyebrow
Surely, you jest :.

Quote:
That wouldn't make sense at all. This entire episode has focused on Enishi, setting up things with him to be resolved next episode. That development wouldn't make sense.
It was just a joke . No episode should go by without mentioning Ko in some form or another at least once .

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZGMF-X10A View Post

more Yuina, Minko and Nako screentime
Kou getting revenge for leaving him hanging all this time? Or is it that girl at the shop? Perhaps Enishi's hatred/infatuation of Satsuki being imposed on Ohana?
frubam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2011-07-17, 14:06   Link #14
Roger Rambo
Sensei, aishite imasu
 
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Hong Kong Shatterdome
Quote:
Originally Posted by frubam View Post
Surely, you jest :.
Not at all.

- Jiromaru (a reasonably attractive young adult man) threatens Beanman with bondage. Beanman blushes. Tomoe mentions this incident again, causing Beanman to blush.

-Sui is completely at ease with having her daughter, Satsuki (not a reasonably attractive young adult man), hanging around Beanman naked. Beanman isn't particularly perturbed by this.

-Enishi (a reasonably attractive young adult man) embraces Beanman. Beanman blushes
Roger Rambo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2011-07-17, 14:08   Link #15
Haak
Forever Alone...
 
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: UK
Age: 23
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanon View Post
I couldn't shake the feeling something was going to go horribly wrong while watching the episode. It felt off in the sense it seems to good to be true.
Yeah I got that feeling too. Actually, when Enishi said he liked the directors previous films and one of them was called "Wet Button" I had a sudden premonition that the film would actually turn out to be porno film. The fact that they enlisted Jirou to help with the writing and asked the girls to take part didn't help. And then there's that phone ringing at the end.

Quote:
PS:


What the hell were they trying to do here? Fly like witches?
That part seriously made me lol.
__________________

Last edited by Haak; 2011-07-17 at 15:12.
Haak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2011-07-17, 14:18   Link #16
frubam
singing heartbreak
 
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
Age: 31
Send a message via AIM to frubam
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger Rambo View Post
Not at all.

- Jiromaru (a reasonably attractive young adult man) threatens Beanman with bondage. Beanman blushes. Tomoe mentions this incident again, causing Beanman to blush.

-Sui is completely at ease with having her daughter, Satsuki (not a reasonably attractive young adult man), hanging around Beanman naked. Beanman isn't particularly perturbed by this.

-Enishi (a reasonably attractive young adult man) embraces Beanman. Beanman blushes
It still seems a bit much to label him gay though. Perhaps I should watch these scenes again. To be honest, I never really paid too much attention to him unless he was with Okami or Ohana.
frubam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2011-07-17, 14:37   Link #17
Roger Rambo
Sensei, aishite imasu
 
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Hong Kong Shatterdome
Also. Poor Enishi. Apparantly he's not butch enough looking to be the stand in for the actor

The actress though...seems VERY satisfied with Renji.



Quote:
Originally Posted by frubam View Post
It still seems a bit much to label him gay though. Perhaps I should watch these scenes again. To be honest, I never really paid too much attention to him unless he was with Okami or Ohana.
It's rather significant with regards to him being with Satsuki in the bath. Sui is tight assed about the importance of work and the inn coming before her children, but she IS still a mother with conservative values. She's not going to let her daughter hang out naked around a man...unless she considered him completely non threatening.


And I don't really think I'm * labeling* Beanman as being gay. That almost implies that it's a character flaw for him.
Roger Rambo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2011-07-17, 14:51   Link #18
Grey
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
What's with the dramatic phone ringing cliffhanger? It's ominous but it probably won't be that big of a deal at all.
Grey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2011-07-17, 15:10   Link #19
ThereminVox
Guess what time it is?
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
Age: 29
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blaat View Post
The phone call is the director saying that the location didn't match up with his vision so the entire deal is cancelled so Enishi will try and save face by directing his own movie (hence Ohana being shot in the preview)
That was my first thought. At first, I kind of figured one of the other inns had made them a more attractive offer, but then I remembered the other managers seemed fairly resigned to letting Enishi sink or swim on his own after he turned them down.

I'm guessing Grandma gave Enishi her blessing because she knows that film-making is his passion. She's demonstrated plenty of times that she loves her family deeply, even if she treats them harshly when the inn is involved. She's had no problem telling Enishi and Takako to go jump in a lake before with their wacky schemes, so motherly indulgence is the only explanation for why she'd give her son the office in this case. Unless, of course, she's starting to come to terms with the idea that Enishi is going to have to succeed her. Her conversation with the movie bigwigs about the state of the inn probably reveals something about how she views her family.

However it falls through, though, it does look like Enishi will be the one directing his own movie next time. I hope poor Mr Ren's heart can take it. He's got the build for a leading man, that much is certain.

Nako and Minchi finally come back into focus a bit. I approve. The 4-girl team with Tomoe leads to some of the best interaction in the show.
ThereminVox is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2011-07-17, 15:21   Link #20
Triple_R
Center Attraction
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Newfoundland, Canada
Age: 33
Send a message via AIM to Triple_R
The only thing I disliked about this episode is the implied siscon. Good grief, siscon is becoming almost as commonplace in anime as tsunderes are!

Other than that, this was a thoroughly enjoyable and fun episode that puts a new challenge/opportunity to the Kissuiso without needing Ohana to play shonen hero for a change (well, at least not yet, anyway ).

This episode also helped humanize some of the adult characters of this anime that many viewers have not been fond of so far, particularly Takako. I know some of these characters may be, er, beyond redemption in the eyes of some viewers, but I still have to commend Hanasaku Iroha for at least trying to make them more likable and realistic.

I also like how it hints at how Enishi might be starting to develop more of a spine, and becoming a somewhat more well-rounded character.


As an aside, I agree with Roger Rambo on Beanman. Given that Beanman is almost the very definition of a background character, that's enough evidence for me to think that he's probably gay, yeah.
__________________
Triple_R is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 22:10.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
We use Silk.