Claymore Chapter 117

[Gooral]

Originally Posted by Fenrir_valindri

We are talking about one of the 3 strongest #1's in the Organization's history. Putting her closer to Teresa then most characters in the setting. Her unique talent makes her pretty damn special. Roxanne is far from a normal Claymore with that in mind.

Yes and because she's one of the strongest #1s in history I can't see how she could start as #35 unless she suppressed her youki and didn't bother to slay youma during exam but let someone else do the work while she was stealing techniques. Comparing Clare to her is pointless since they're almost as different as youma are different from humans.

[MalakTawus]

@Malak
We've seen how bad she was using normal attacks. If she would be so much faster then I wouldn't see a reason to use this technique at all against Audrey et al.

And you think that she was really fighting?
Bha,imo she was simply confused and was trying to understand what was going on.
Also from what Roxy herself has said,it seems that Cassy is even stronger than Roxy....


....also i added some lines in my previous post.

[Fenrir_valindri]

Originally Posted by Gooral

Yes and because she's one of the strongest #1s in history I can't see how she could start as #35 unless she suppressed her youki and didn't bother to slay youma during exam but let someone else do the work while she was stealing techniques. Comparing Clare to her is pointless since they're almost as different as youma are different from humans.

Learning the abilities of all the exceptional warriors in her generation undoubtedly improved her fighting ability significantly. It is possible she just had a lot of latent potential but simply didn't show it early on. Notice how she initially copied the technique of lower numbers, but eventually discarded them because she had effectively "outgrown" them.

It is possible all she needed was some time to develop her abilities for her potential to show.

[Gooral]

@MalakTawus
Yes, I think she was really fighting. Otherwise she wouldn't use the technique she hid from everyone and used it against small fries. She also wouldn't allow herself to be injured. She was clearly struggling against those three until she used her technique. Which only shows how much stronger Teresa must have been since she was fighting 4 opponents at once, where each was stronger than the weakest of the 3 fighting Cassandra (and Priscilla and Irene were much stronger even than Audrey). It's possible that just by using 10% of her youki she would start to show her true power, similar to Teresa's case and would trump 30% Audrey and the rest because she would have so much higher factor by which her youki increased. I could buy something like that.

[dream-seeker]

What irked me in this chapter is Roxy. She's copying... like cheating on a math test. LOL Btw, Clare was taught by Irene to use the QS, she was given permission to use QS by receiving Irene's arm. Also the WC was close to QS style; adopting it for the purpose of not using youki while they were hiding in the North. Clare respected Flora's technique and enhance it that way. Not like Roxanne, discarding it after seeing someone new.

[MalakTawus]

Originally Posted by Gooral

@MalakTawus
Yes, I think she was really fighting. Otherwise she wouldn't use the technique she hid from everyone and used it against small fries. She also wouldn't allow herself to be injured. She was clearly struggling against those three until she used her technique. Which only shows how much stronger Teresa must have been since she was fighting 4 opponents at once, where each was stronger than the weakest of the 3 fighting Cassandra (and Priscilla and Irene were much stronger even than Audrey). It's possible that just by using 10% of her youki she would start to show her true power, similar to Teresa's case and would trump 30% Audrey and the rest because she would have so much higher factor by which her youki increased. I could buy something like that.

What you say here would make a lot more sense if we don't consider the particular context,BUT if we consider her situation (she was just brought back to life and is very confused) it's totally normal for her to use her special fighting style even against weak opponents simply because she is beginning to remember things that she has forgotten,so it's 100% normal for her to act in a way that could help her gain other lost memories.

[Tom Bombadil]

Originally Posted by MalakTawus

And you think that she was really fighting?
Bha,imo she was simply confused and was trying to understand what was going on.
Also from what Roxy herself has said,it seems that Cassy is even stronger than Roxy....


....also i added some lines in my previous post.

Roxy said that if Cassandra doesn't use that technique, she is on the level as a No.5.

[Gooral]

@dream-seeker
I wouldn't call it cheating, rather using her ingenious ability to the fullest. What is really bad is that she disposes of her teachers afterwards. She's a real black widow :]. Maybe Fenrir is on to something with that yuri thing.

[fraktur]

Originally Posted by Tom Bombadil

Roxy said that if Cassandra doesn't use that technique, she is on the level as a No.5.

so we have 3 "one trick ponies" (in case of roxxy a little more, but you know what i mean..) here? that means that none of them is even in the same galaxy as theresa. i'm underwhelmed and yes the ghosts will kill them... :/

[MalakTawus]

Maybe Roxy is not so great in the Yoki department(at least not at normal n.1 level).
That could explain why she started at rank 35,and only thanx to her great sensing ability (and copycat ability) she was able to rise the rankings with time.
Imo her weak points could be yoki power and physical strenght.
In other words some sort of stronger Noel + her great special ability (and a very cunning personality).

[dream-seeker]

Originally Posted by Gooral

@dream-seeker
I wouldn't call it cheating, rather using her ingenious ability to the fullest. What is really bad is that she disposes of her teachers afterwards. She's a real black widow :]. Maybe Fenrir is on to something with that yuri thing.

Seems like it. But it's really annoying, given she is gifted with ability to copy. But others worked hard to earn those techniques you know. It's irritating, at least to me. lol

[MalakTawus]

Originally Posted by Tom Bombadil

Roxy said that if Cassandra doesn't use that technique, she is on the level as a No.5.

Are you sure?
If you are right than this change things a lot.

[Nixl]

Originally Posted by Tom Bombadil

@Nixl, except there were insect like ABs in the war of the north?

True, I totally forgot those guys, but Cassadra's technique seems to be just icing on a cake. With or without her technique she is still a power house and ultimately, she killed every Ab she crossed with or without the technique.

Regardless of whether the claymores know that the low stance is coming there is virtually nothing they can do about since they have to attack Cassandra up-close. Honestly, I think it is fitting and it was not what others (including myself) were predicting at all, which is nice. If it was like techniques in Shigurui(unstoppable, etc) I would start having trouble. The only claymores I think that can be efficient enough to fight Casandra are Deneve(regenerates feets), Yuma(ranged), and Helen (ranged).

Originally Posted by Shiek927

Nixl, I was wondering when you were gonna show up

The worse part is that I have yet to read the chapter fully, because of business.

I also cannot believe I forgot Priscilla and her wings. lol

[Fenrir_valindri]

Originally Posted by MalakTawus

Are you sure?
If you are right than this change things a lot.

If that is right, its inconsistent with what Rubel and Dae were talking about earlier when commenting on her Yoki. I get the feeling Roxanne is slanting her story to show her in a less favorable light. She does end up "hating" the people she steals techniques from.

Either that, or she just isn't a very skilled fighter outside of her style. Strong but unskilled outside her style.

[Gooral]

I've almost got it right:



Cassie's symbol looks almost like psi letter.

Roxy's look like this:

[irvinethearcher]

Originally Posted by Nixl

True, I totally forgot those guys, but Cassadra's technique seems to be just icing on a cake. With or without her technique she is still a power house and ultimately, she killed every Ab she crossed with or without the technique.

Regardless of whether the claymores know that the low stance is coming there is virtually nothing they can do about since they have to attack Cassandra up-close. Honestly, I think it is fitting and it was not what others (including myself) were predicting at all, which is nice. If it was like techniques in Shigurui(unstoppable, etc) I would start having trouble. The only claymores I think that can be efficient enough to fight Casandra are Deneve(regenerates feets), Yuma(ranged), and Helen (ranged).



The worse part is that I have yet to read the chapter fully, because of business.

I also cannot believe I forgot Priscilla and her wings. lol

yeah, i have a lot of work to do too. perhaps i manage someday in this month to release my 116 vid but i don't know when i will have the time to do so.
at least this seems to be an interesting chapter, cant wait fo scanslation.

[Shiek927]

This chapter almost makes completely forget Hysteria ; I'm surprised she wasn't in it whatoever. She does feel a bit overshadowed now by the other two now. As a powerhouse, she now feels blown away by Cassandra, and as far as techniques go, Roxanne's dwarfs her on sheer usefulness.

She's no wimp by any means, but she definitely now comes across as the weakest of all three.

Originally Posted by fraktur

so we have 3 "one trick ponies" (in case of roxxy a little more, but you know what i mean..) here? that means that none of them is even in the same galaxy as theresa. i'm underwhelmed and yes the ghosts will kill them... :/

Not so-- raw power perhaps, but Teresa would still have a surprising hard time fighting Roxanne if she was able to copy her techniques, or at least get herself onto a certain level. Like Priscilla for example, but without her potential -- Once Teresa powered up, is another story though.

The thing is, we don't know how much raw power she has, but copying the right abilities, she may be even to theoritically fight the good fight against almost anybody. In some sense, she's comparable to an Abyssal Eater.

[Jean Claymore]

Originally Posted by Shiek927

This chapter almost makes completely forget Hysteria ; I'm surprised she wasn't in it whatoever. She does feel a bit overshadowed now by the other two now. As a powerhouse, he now feels blown away by Cassandra, and as far as techniques go, Roxanne's dwarfs her on sheer usefulness.

Don't worry, I'm sure will get another flashback of Hysteria soon

[theevilanimal]

Roxanne reminds me of those girls in university who would whore at you in order to get your notes and end up getting better marks than you and just trash you afterward

[Shiek927]

Originally Posted by theevilanimal

Roxanne reminds me of those girls in university who would whore at you in order to get your notes and end up getting better marks than you and just trash you afterward

Their's a familiar face I haven't seen in a long time ^__^

I'm not sure about the hilarious comparison (), but yes; Roxanne is a gold-digging player

Why is it that all the evil girls are always named that? ; very few good girls are named Roxanne I noticed