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Old 2011-08-03, 08:22   Link #21
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Madara is crazy prepared too - probably wouldn't have worked for one reason or another .. noone knows more about Sharingan then Madara

or maybe it was still in cooldown :P



it was likely used at least once after Shisui got it - otherwise how would they know what it does .. and then you wait 10 years .. the massacre itself was ~10 (or 9 ? .. Sasuke was 6 y.o. then, 12 y.o. in P1 and +3 years timeskip) years ago from now, no ? I guess the cooldown ended :P maybe just before Itachi gave Naruto the crow





so glad Sasuke isn't gonna be geassed into loving Konoha ^^ .. too easy a win .. Blood for the Blood God !
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Old 2011-08-03, 08:33   Link #22
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WOW! naruto is getting better and better!
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Old 2011-08-03, 08:36   Link #23
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btw seems Hashirama's 'seed' (lol) is the frikkin Duracell of naruto - it can even help you recharge your ultimate genjutsu faster ^^
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Old 2011-08-03, 08:38   Link #24
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Looks like the manga has a reason to continue after the war. It takes 10 years to activate, so that means it will take another 10 years in the manga if Naruto decides not to kill Sasuke.

Why didn't Shisui use it on Danzo? Why didn't Danzo use it on Sasuke? Madara was already capable of controlling a jinchuuriki on his own. What makes Shisui's eyes special?
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Old 2011-08-03, 08:39   Link #25
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best chapter of naruto so far!

what now will happen to shisui's eye?

now that it has been used to itachi, it cant be used to sasuke anymore right? until the next 10 years?
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Old 2011-08-03, 08:43   Link #26
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Why didn't Danzo use it on Sasuke?
we never saw the Mangekyou in Danzou's eye-sharingan (Shisui's), maybe for some reason he couldn't activate it .. also, Danzou held back (perhaps in the beginning), because he also had Madara to think about

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What makes Shisui's eyes special?
mind control (1 subtle order that you have to fulfill and you're not even aware of it), I assume that's not something any sharingan can do


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Madara was already capable of controlling a jinchuuriki on his own
you mean when he controlled the previous Mizukage ? good point, although we don't know how that was done .. maybe with drugs lol ^^



and what exactly is the difference between the 10 years-Mangekyou-version and the regular 1-per-day ? both are mind control .. I guess it's the strength, the 10-years one can go even through EMS and ET
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Old 2011-08-03, 08:45   Link #27
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If he had used it on Madara it probably wouldn't have worked since Madara is immune to most techniques, plus he could've izanagi'd out of it.

As for the current battle against perfect pain, it's probably just a practice match for Naruto until Madara's six paths come out to fight him.

Also, considering Itachi is no longer under the control of Kabuto, why doesn't Kabuto just undo the ET on him so he can dissapear and stop being a nuance to him? That would make more sense.
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Old 2011-08-03, 08:45   Link #28
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in fact, it's kinda like Lelouch's Geass ^^
This was exactly my thought while reading the chapter.

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although Bee seems useless everytime his chakra gets sucked away T_T and Naruto w/o 9-tails mode or at least sage mode is waaaay below the necessary power level for such a fight - Nagato'll destroy them .. although I don't think he can take all of 9-tails chakra in 1 go + there's still Itachi to help out
As was said, the whole forcing Sage Chakra into Nagato might do it. Not sure if toad transformation is on the list of things ET regeneration can fix, though; it probably is, in retrospect.

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What makes Shisui's eyes special?
THIS. I've been wondering this since his eyes were first ever introduced. It'd be one thing if we get a hint that another Uchiha had similar abilities (maybe Izuna?), but as is Shisui's sole role is to be a walking warehouse of Sharingan power ass-pulls. Nice to know that the Uchiha were wrong in suspecting that Itachi killed him though, I suppose.
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Old 2011-08-03, 08:46   Link #29
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Also, considering Itachi is no longer under the control of Kabuto, why doesn't Kabuto just undo the ET on him so he can dissapear and stop being a nuance to him?
well we don't know the specifics, but he probably can't anymore - totally out of his control .. otherwise it's kinda lame .. i dunno



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Old 2011-08-03, 09:03   Link #30
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I'm not even going to try to predict what's going to happen next, way too many uncertainties just got dumped into the story. It makes for a hell of a read though, but discussion wise there's not much we can speculate on.

Anyway I guess now we know why the crow had a different pattern. Also is it just me or is Nagato a lot tougher to deal with now then when he was as Pain. And why has he never used this restore body to perfection state if it was something he could do? Or does that have to do with needing tailed beast like chakra?
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Old 2011-08-03, 09:06   Link #31
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Nice chapter? Haha got confused with the eyes thing.

Looking forward again to Pain vs Naruto
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Old 2011-08-03, 09:08   Link #32
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we never saw the Mangekyou in Danzou's eye-sharingan (Shisui's), maybe for some reason he couldn't activate it .. also, Danzou held back (perhaps in the beginning),
He had access to Hashirama's chakra though. He could have activated it if he wanted to.

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because he also had Madara to think about
It can control a person without them knowing. Chances are he could've done it at the very beginning. Itachi was pretty damn far from his crow when it affected him. So even if Madara didn't participate in the fight, he could still be affected.

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And why has he never used this restore body to perfection state if it was something he could do? Or does that have to do with needing tailed beast like chakra?
Probably because his other bodies had them. By the time he regained it, he became Naruto's friend and died.
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Old 2011-08-03, 09:08   Link #33
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More Shisui hype. The guy was a god and above any Uchiha.

Has any one of Itachi's plans ever worked?

One thing I don't understand. It canceled ET and returned Itachi to normal? How? So Itachi is alive right now and not just a zombie? Is he still a zombie? I didn't quite get that part.

Not that he won't die stopping Nagato. Itachi and Nagato are going to exit stage left now.

Naruto should also be forced to stop using taju kage bunshin. Even if he doesn't, those clones should lose Kyuubi mode which stops him from sniffing out Zetsu clones.
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Old 2011-08-03, 09:12   Link #34
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It's a "geass". When it Itachi's mangekyou activate, it'll come out and activate the command "Protect Konoha (aka side with Naruto)". Edo Tensei's command was overwritten with the geass's command lol
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Old 2011-08-03, 09:13   Link #35
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Wow i am rooting for Naruto to implant the eye to himself . Also due to his chakra nature he probably can use it quite often too but he sucks at genjutsu so dunno
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Old 2011-08-03, 09:16   Link #36
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Has any one of Itachi's plans ever worked?
not like he planned them ^^, no, but he's the first and only person so far to break out of ET and basically get a 2-nd life lol .. not bad, not bad


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One thing I don't understand. It canceled ET and returned Itachi to normal? How? So Itachi is alive right now and not just a zombie? Is he still a zombie? I didn't quite get that part.
not known for sure atm


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Not that he won't die stopping Nagato. Itachi and Nagato are going to exit stage left now.
I very much hope Itachi sticks around .. if he just goes down with Nagato - not much reason to have him break ET

he'd have so much intel on the enemy for the guys @ Alliance HQ
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Old 2011-08-03, 09:25   Link #37
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I very much hope Itachi sticks around .. if he just goes down with Nagato - not much reason to have him break ET
Well he needed to break of the Edo Tensei to further what ever Kishi had planned. But as a character, there is no reason for him to stay around since Naruto will take care of Madara and Sasuke. Naruto basically told him his role in the story was nearly over.

The last thing left for him to do is "die" helping against Nagato. Since neither Kirabi or a de-powered Naruto now have the power to face him on their own.

Is that crow useless now? Or will it still come into play against Sasuke? I hope it doesn't I am a little tried of wonky eye powers.
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Old 2011-08-03, 09:28   Link #38
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It supposed to play a part against Sasuke, who Itachi foresaw would use his eyes to destroy Konoha.

It recharges for 10 years... It's useless for now.
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Old 2011-08-03, 09:30   Link #39
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Well he needed to break of the Edo Tensei to further what ever Kishi had planned. But as a character, there is no reason for him to stay around since Naruto will take care of Madara and Sasuke. Naruto basically tool him his role in the story was nearly over.

The last thing left for him to do is "die" helping against Nagato. Since neither Kirabi or a de-powered Naruto now have the power to face him on their own.
well I don't want him to die :P (again) .. he's a good guy and good guys don't die in this war ^^ .. besides if Kishi does decide to off Sasuke in the end and Itachi's gone too - Uchiha line = over, DO NOT WANT

and like I said he can help by giving info to the Alliance HQ


him going down with Nagato is too obvious, I hope Kishi does better .. Naruto shouldn't be drained fully after one touch, Bee still can fight w/o Hachibi's chakra, maybe Kabuto decides to run away with 8 & 9 tails chakra
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Old 2011-08-03, 09:31   Link #40
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hehehe...

Itachi is still a zombie, he just can control his self now,,,

Im pretty sure Kabuto will deactivate him now
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