Ore no Kanojo to Osananajimi ga Shuraba Sugiru

[SoFarGone]

Its not really white hair. Its more silver/gray. Regardless I like her more than the childhood friend.

[surerman]

As long as I know, completely White hair on young age (human) mean a grave situation in health term.

I see once, one of the female drug victim of Druglord at Mexico (I rip his liver alive for that and feed him to a puma). Also one of the human trafficking from rural place in Rusia (a 9 years old boy) who died shortly after my team recover him from underground prison the infidel guard's, he suffer from abuse and test subject for new illegally development medicine for AIDS.
They have completely white hair, and even by just looking at their (easy to shattered) hair condition, you'll know how bad it is. Well, at last the Moslem boy can meet another boy (killer) before he met his parents again and accept my friendly request to come out and play.

I prefer red hair or black one, it's healthy looking is a good sight, especially combined with green eyes and white teeth (I didn't like blue eyes, kinda like dead body)
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oh! I found the raw!

[larethian]

Originally Posted by Mentar

I'm curious now

Spoiler for only for novel readers, asking for spoiler:

So how many of those kisses were fake/just for show? Or does Masuzu eventually begin to warm up to Eita after all?

I'd also be curious if Eita ever develops any interest in Masuzu, or if he pulls another Natsuru (Kämpfer) and stays scared to death

Spoiler for novel:

Initially, in volume 1, I thought Chiwa will definitely be the main girl. The most important point being, Eita decided to become a doctor because he wanted to cure Chiwa's hip (or back, I can't remember). But this is only part of the reason. Chiwa's condition gave him a goal to focus on, to bring himself out of the despair from his parents' divorce.

At the end of volume 1, after Eita had a showdown with Sakagami, it was clear that Masuzu started to develop something for Eita. Eita also started getting 'dense syndrome' as the series progresses (sigh). The impulses Eita developed are those of a guy, in his logical mind, he's still pretty much anti-romance though he cares about the girls in the club. Anway quoting him, his situations with all the girls are Shuraba sugiru (too much mayhem)

with regards to the kisses:
v1: Masuzu kissed him on the lips. Then she said a kiss for them "anti-romance" people is merely a physical contact of "lips to lips" and holds no deep meaning.

v2: Eita got kissed by Masuzu's sister (who came to cause trouble), Masuzu was stunned, and consequently almost drowned during their PE lesson later, cos she was emotionally confused. Eita did mouth-to-mouth CPR on Masuzu, and later told her that Manaka's kiss has been overwritten.

v3: Masuzu asked (commanded rather) Eita to kiss her on the cheek (for what reason, I can't remember) in a cafe. Later, she kissed him back on the cheek because he said something good.

Masuzu blushed in every one of the kiss incident.


Why Masuzu has to win or the author is the biggest troll of all:
1. Both Masuzu and Eita are "anti-romance".
2. They both love JoJo .
3. Masuzu has Eita's Chunnibyou notebook, which gives her an insight to almost everything about Eita
4. Masuzu understands Eita more than any girl (too bad for Chiwa since she's dumb) and can read Eita's mind and predict his actions.
5. Currently, Masuzu's background story has the greatest potential to create serious melodrama later.
6. They did many things together which the rest are ignorant about, including the kisses. And their "screentime" together seem to be more than anyone else (like everyone said, she's a central character).
7. Masuzu's flags have been set more than anyone else, and she is ahead of the other girls.

[surerman]

Originally Posted by larethian

Spoiler for novel:

Initially, in volume 1, I thought Chiwa will definitely be the main girl. The most important point being, Eita decided to become a doctor because he wanted to cure Chiwa's hip (or back, I can't remember). But this is only part of the reason. Chiwa's condition gave him a goal to focus on, to bring himself out of the despair from his parents' divorce.

At the end of volume 1, after Eita had a showdown with Sakagami, it was clear that Masuzu started to develop something for Eita. Eita also started getting 'dense syndrome' as the series progresses (sigh). The impulses Eita developed are those of a guy, in his logical mind, he's still pretty much anti-romance though he cares about the girls in the club. Anway quoting him, his situations with all the girls are Shuraba sugiru (too much mayhem)

with regards to the kisses:
v1: Masuzu kissed him on the lips. Then she said a kiss for them "anti-romance" people is merely a physical contact of "lips to lips" and holds no deep meaning.

v2: Eita got kissed by Masuzu's sister (who came to cause trouble), Masuzu was stunned, and consequently almost drowned during their PE lesson later, cos she was emotionally confused. Eita did mouth-to-mouth CPR on Masuzu, and later told her that Manaka's kiss has been overwritten.

v3: Masuzu asked (commanded rather) Eita to kiss her on the cheek (for what reason, I can't remember) in a cafe. Later, she kissed him back on the cheek because he said something good.

Masuzu blushed in every one of the kiss incident.


Why Masuzu has to win or the author is the biggest troll of all:
1. Both Masuzu and Eita are "anti-romance".
2. They both love JoJo .
3. Masuzu has Eita's Chunnibyou notebook, which gives her an insight to almost everything about Eita
4. Masuzu understands Eita more than any girl (too bad for Chiwa since she's dumb) and can read Eita's mind and predict his actions.
5. Currently, Masuzu's background story has the greatest potential to create serious melodrama later.
6. They did many things together which the rest are ignorant about, including the kisses. And their "screentime" together seem to be more than anyone else (like everyone said, she's a central character).
7. Masuzu's flags have been set more than anyone else, and she is ahead of the other girls.

If that 7 points true, than why bother to drag this story on and on then?
the winner already decided ....right?

[SoFarGone]

Originally Posted by surerman

If that 7 points true, than why bother to drag this story on and on then?
the winner already decided ....right?

Not necessarily. To me the one that gets covered last towards the end usually ends up together.

[larethian]

Originally Posted by surerman

If that 7 points true, than why bother to drag this story on and on then?
the winner already decided ....right?

I can very well say the same for nogisaka haruka.
Firstly, we don't know whether the author will actually troll us in the end.
Then, there's the fun in the story development and melodrama.
I also find the banter extremely amusing, though I hope it doesn't go beyond 10 volumes.

[Used Can]

Originally Posted by surerman

If that 7 points true, than why bother to drag this story on and on then?
the winner already decided ....right?

Because it's a love comedy and the purpose is to see how the two MCs finally manage to establish a relationship?

I mean, I don't understand why the author even turned this into a harem. Personally, I think he should have stuck to the love triangle idea. In fact, I'll even say the author could have even dropped the love triangle eventually, find another character Chiwa can fall in love with... say, the little brother of that basketball senior - just develop him into a friendly character the audience can like. That way you have 2 relationships to develop in this love comedy. However, of course, putting more focus on the 2 MCs.

This may sound like a rant, but I'm honestly tired of all these harems. It seems as if a good amount of writers can no longer write some love comedy (and even sometimes shōnen battles) without establishing a harem.

Anyhow, I'll try giving this manga a chance, just for Masuzu.

Originally Posted by larethian

Firstly, we don't know whether the author will actually troll us in the end.

That's not trolling, that's called being a hack writer.

[Westlo]

Originally Posted by larethian

Spoiler for Masuzu (non novel readers beware):

If she loses, I'll throw the series away.

Yep, same here.

[Magin]

Originally Posted by Used Can

This may sound like a rant, but I'm honestly tired of all these harems. It seems as if a good amount of writers can no longer write some love comedy (and even sometimes shōnen battles) without establishing a harem.

Amen to this... I've seen a lot of the older stuff, and while there was a good number of love triangles, quite a bit got resolved/ you only had one romantic interest. These days, it's harems like no tomorrow... I used to like harems when they were few and far between (and actually GOOD... yes, it is possible to have a good harem. Tenchi, for example...), but I'm starting to get sick of it recently. I understand it has something to do with the "otaku/moe-taku" that have appeared within the last few years...

Personally, I'd love to just see this become a manga series where Masuzu and eita become a couple in all but name, but I have this feeling that ain't going to happen...

[larethian]

Actually, in the afterword, the author said that he is going for an Ultra Mainstream series. So the good thing is that he admitted outright in volume 1 this is the direction he's going to take, after all it's supposed to be a Shuraba (besides he's doing mainstream so that his novels will sell), so at the very least there's no surprises to us readers who choose to continue reading subsequent volumes.

His writing is decent (IMO), and as a person who seldom read harem novels, I'm attracted to his writing. The descriptions are simple yet good and well phrased. Harem antics aside, the manzai comedy between the characters, with Eita acting as Tsukkomi can be really funny. The novel structure is also charming, with each chapter preceded by something: either a definition of a word, an enlightened view of a character, or some funny faq.

The main win for me is that the story creates the urge in me to see how the relationship between Eita and Masuzu unfolds. Eita and Masuzu holds the main viewpoint that 'love is a useless thing', and I think the central plot will be about how they are going to overcome their fears and move out of the shadows of their parents' relationship failures, with their 'fake' boyfriend-girlfriend relationship turning into a real one. The characters in the harem actually serve some purpose other than being a harem, though I don't feel like typing them, since I need to reorganize my thoughts about what I've read, which is a pain. Though I can say that the JiEn-Otsu (自らを演出する乙女の会 --> 自演乙 ) club becomes somewhat similar to Stray Cats in Mayoi Neko as the story progresses.

[SoFarGone]

different version came out: Ore no Kanojo to Osananajimi ga Shuraba Sugiru + H

Spoiler for 1:

Nice way to impress your "fake" girlfriend. Ending was surprising.

[Used Can]

I read +H today as well. It was nice.
Also, I liked the art a lot better than the main manga's. The art in +H seemed a lot more detailed and polished, at least when compared to the main one. I'd really like it if the guy drawing this spin-off would be the one drawing the main story as well.

[Okashira]

Originally Posted by SoFarGone

different version came out: Ore no Kanojo to Osananajimi ga Shuraba Sugiru + H

Spoiler for 1:

Nice way to impress your "fake" girlfriend. Ending was surprising.

......

Spoiler:

I don't understand how they do a spin off of an harem series focused on the harem factor.... Are they gonna have the whole school fighting over him or something?

For the record, as stated about the light novel. I was semi pleased with false relationship between the love haters and also kinda dug the fights between Chiwa and Masuzu..... but

Spoiler:

I lost 90% of my interest on the novel when the harem came to be, I'm actually probably not gonna bother with the novel until after it ends, and perhaps will heed the manga from time to time. To me the whole magic was an all out battle, the selling point of the title; having an harem to me greatly killed that magic of win or die situations

edit :

There is also a yonkoma going on!? Wow, this title is probably doing quite alright.

[larethian]

Originally Posted by Okashira

......

Spoiler:

I don't understand how they do a spin off of an harem series focused on the harem factor.... Are they gonna have the whole school fighting over him or something?

For the record, as stated about the light novel. I was semi pleased with false relationship between the love haters and also kinda dug the fights between Chiwa and Masuzu..... but

Spoiler:

I lost 90% of my interest on the novel when the harem came to be, I'm actually probably not gonna bother with the novel until after it ends, and perhaps will heed the manga from time to time. To me the whole magic was an all out battle, the selling point of the title; having an harem to me greatly killed that magic of win or die situations

edit :

There is also a yonkoma going on!? Wow, this title is probably doing quite alright.

I'm not a harem fan but very attracted to the way the story is progressing between Eita and Masuzu. Why I picked it up in the first place was due to public hype. Subjectively speaking,

Spoiler for my opinion:

the lines in between I read points to a Eita x Masuzu end. But like I say, it's subjectively my interpretation . It seems like both Eita and Masuzu have their own things to overcome.

The comedy is also decently satisfying.

[~Yami~]

love this manga.... and I love the troll.... lol

I really hope their relationship will turn to be real soon....

[Undertaker]

Though, with that being said, the more I read the LN the more I feel that Masuzu's actions were all premeditated and planned.

I keep getting feeling that she isn't as against love as she lets out and it have more to do with her try to get close to Eita than she actually just using Eita as shield.

[larethian]

Originally Posted by Undertaker

Though, with that being said, the more I read the LN the more I feel that Masuzu's actions were all premeditated and planned.

I keep getting feeling that she isn't as against love as she lets out and it have more to do with her try to get close to Eita than she actually just using Eita as shield.

Spoiler for speculation from LN knowledge:

Still waiting for the "what's up with her family?" arc. I won't doubt that she's against love initially, given the hints about her family (/speculate her dad is probably a rich playboy). And apparently, she's not living her rich girl's life given what she said about using her pocket money to buy those few volumes of Jojo. Her residence was also yet to be 'discovered' by Eita. She's probably just getting 'eroded'.

[Lummie]

The new manga spin-off surprised me. Enjoyed the first chap much more compared to when I read the current running version that runs in the....eh...nvm, I forgot the mag. Anyhow, really looking forward to future chaps of this version.

[Merilyn Mensola]

Originally Posted by Lummie

The new manga spin-off surprised me. Enjoyed the first chap much more compared to when I read the current running version that runs in the....eh...nvm, I forgot the mag. Anyhow, really looking forward to future chaps of this version.

i agree...what a good spin-off!

Really enjoyed this chapter...

Chiwa was too funny...like when she say: "now that you have a girlfriend, do you really not want a childhood friend anymore..it's like a cute pet being abandoned" hahaha...the picture was to funny!!!

and the new girl..hahah..Oni-chan!she is crazy!

Masuzu began to show signs of jealousy

[Okashira]

Originally Posted by larethian

Spoiler for speculation from LN knowledge:

Still waiting for the "what's up with her family?" arc. I won't doubt that she's against love initially, given the hints about her family (/speculate her dad is probably a rich playboy). And apparently, she's not living her rich girl's life given what she said about using her pocket money to buy those few volumes of Jojo. Her residence was also yet to be 'discovered' by Eita. She's probably just getting 'eroded'.

When Masuzu said in chapter 1 "there is also something important about you; you'll never betray me" to me that was like a huge flare signal that pointed out that her past is going to be explored greatly and perhaps it's even to "come back to haunt her" as a plot point (as in, whoever made her think like that is going to pop up again).


My main complain to the alternative story is that.... There is like no true way to differentiate it from the main story. For example in Haganai we have the regular background and in Haganai + we have that the background is backwards (he meets the other girl first). Mayo Mayo and Mayo Chiki are also clearly different examples... But this one, is confuse. I'm not sure if it's a gaiden "what if" story or if it's put in the same continuity than the novel and happens when we aren't looking and stuff like that.

Spoiler:

I hope that he gets a teacher after him or something it should be played interestingly with his personality, as well as Masuzu's