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Old 2012-03-26, 20:22   Link #1201
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I find it funny how BRS, the franchise's flagship heroine, barely gets any characterization or personality of her own. It's all by proxy through Mato.
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Old 2012-03-26, 20:34   Link #1202
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I find it funny how BRS, the franchise's flagship heroine, barely gets any characterization or personality of her own. It's all by proxy through Mato.
I think it's because of how the premise of the Otherworld is set up -- the Otherselves don't have emotions, which means that they don't have personalities by extension, and only act on instinct. Until Strength awakened that is. The ending kind of alludes that BRS finally does gain emotions as well (which is one of the likely reasons she decided to leave STR alone), but it's probably too late for everyone waiting for it, ahaha.
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Old 2012-03-26, 20:51   Link #1203
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I think it's because of how the premise of the Otherworld is set up -- the Otherselves don't have emotions, which means that they don't have personalities by extension, and only act on instinct. Until Strength awakened that is. The ending kind of alludes that BRS finally does gain emotions as well (which is one of the likely reasons she decided to leave STR alone), but it's probably too late for everyone waiting for it, ahaha.
I know why BRS and the rest don't. I'm saying that the premise is flawed because of that.
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Old 2012-03-26, 22:01   Link #1204
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well, Stella, Rock and BRS all have the theme of finding themselves through the ordeals they go through. BRS is just Mato taken to the darker extreme
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Old 2012-03-26, 22:43   Link #1205
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The shit did I just watch.

I wanted to yell "TASTE THE RAINBOW" for the latter half of the final episode.

But in all seriousness, can someone explain to me exactly what just happened here? I still don't understand how this whole Otherworld thing works, or the motives behind many of the characters.
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Old 2012-03-27, 00:24   Link #1206
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Old 2012-03-27, 01:32   Link #1207
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or just once and pay attention
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Old 2012-03-27, 02:40   Link #1208
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But in all seriousness, can someone explain to me exactly what just happened here? I still don't understand how this whole Otherworld thing works, or the motives behind many of the characters.

The Otherworld is a parallel dimension, that sort of exists to carry the emotional burden of emotional females. It's as simple as that. The characters of the Otherworld (BRS, STR, Chariot etc.) are basically all proxies for the girls in the real world, and all the battles they have with each other relieve mental and emotional stress for their counterparts. It's as simple as that. The series itself hints enough of this, one just has to pay attention.

The Otherselves prior to STR had no motivations or emotions of their own: they just are, and just function on instinct. This sort of changes at the end though, at least where STR and BRS are concerned.
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Old 2012-03-27, 03:51   Link #1209
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I find it funny how BRS, the franchise's flagship heroine, barely gets any characterization or personality of her own. It's all by proxy through Mato.
Mato is BRS. BRS is Mato's soul. So, BRS characterization is Mato.

Unless something analogous to the Strength/Yuu scenario occurred to Mato....

Seriously speaking though, I personally thought that a very good example of how disfocused the first part of this anime was was the fact that they didn't focus on Strength's pre-existing friendship with Mato. Had they played that up instead, and made Yomi a little less prominent, quite alot of the melodrama and hasty attempts at what passes for character and relationship development could easily have been cut out instead in the first few episodes. To me, Mato and Yuu relationship is the center of the plot, and Yomi is one huge red herring.
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Old 2012-03-27, 06:17   Link #1210
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It was a meh series overall imo.

Worth watching though, gave me my weekly dose of action & BA moments.
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Old 2012-03-27, 13:01   Link #1211
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I know why BRS and the rest don't. I'm saying that the premise is flawed because of that.
From the art you expect BRS to be emotionless. Having a personality is not necessarily a good thing in this case.

The manga/game version have one; personally I like the emotionless BRS.
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Old 2012-03-27, 20:02   Link #1212
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Mato is BRS. BRS is Mato's soul. So, BRS characterization is Mato.

Unless something analogous to the Strength/Yuu scenario occurred to Mato....

Seriously speaking though, I personally thought that a very good example of how disfocused the first part of this anime was was the fact that they didn't focus on Strength's pre-existing friendship with Mato. Had they played that up instead, and made Yomi a little less prominent, quite alot of the melodrama and hasty attempts at what passes for character and relationship development could easily have been cut out instead in the first few episodes. To me, Mato and Yuu relationship is the center of the plot, and Yomi is one huge red herring.
though thats only for the OVA and anime really, the manga/game prove otherwise. just saying that BRS could still have her own personality different from her, as in give a different kind of setting if the focus was wanted on the action side.


yeah your right on that. and that also pretty much nulls the argument that changing DM design was fine since that means there was no special relationship, or difference, on mato and yomi to the one in the OVA
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Old 2012-03-27, 20:43   Link #1213
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I think it's because of how the premise of the Otherworld is set up -- the Otherselves don't have emotions, which means that they don't have personalities by extension, and only act on instinct. Until Strength awakened that is. The ending kind of alludes that BRS finally does gain emotions as well (which is one of the likely reasons she decided to leave STR alone), but it's probably too late for everyone waiting for it, ahaha.
Hmm... maybe the others also gained emotions as well, not only BRS and STR. But that's just me.
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Old 2012-03-28, 02:36   Link #1214
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What's this teaser?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFHGTe7MvBA
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Old 2012-03-28, 02:41   Link #1215
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Isn't that just episode eight's next time preview?

Or maybe I'm misunderstanding something . . .
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Old 2012-03-28, 02:41   Link #1216
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What's this teaser?
That's just the preview for Episode 8, as shown in the series website after episode 7. Nothing more.
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Old 2012-03-28, 11:53   Link #1217
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What's this teaser?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFHGTe7MvBA
Its title says in english:

"Black★Rock Shooter 【ブラック★ロックシューター】 TV Episode 8 Preview [HD]"
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Old 2012-03-28, 22:10   Link #1218
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Lol, I love how three people had to bother saying the exact same thing.

Anyway, finally watched episodes 6-8. Fighting scene visuals were great. Not much can be said for the story's ending... Seems like the script was just haphazardly slapped together to me (not just for the ending, but the series as a whole). Just... meh.
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Old 2012-03-28, 23:15   Link #1219
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Lol, I love how three people had to bother saying the exact same thing.
Don't you ever hit quote before reading the rest of the posts

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Anyway, finally watched episodes 6-8. Fighting scene visuals were great. Not much can be said for the story's ending... Seems like the script was just haphazardly slapped together to me (not just for the ending, but the series as a whole). Just... meh.
That "meh" is too painful when one looks at the original art
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Old 2012-03-29, 01:04   Link #1220
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^I was saying meh at the SCRIPT and the ENDING, NOT huke's source art. I would never.
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