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Old 2011-12-01, 23:15   Link #361
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From what I understand, OBSTACLE, is the world after GENESIS. And in OBSTACLE, it repeated the circle of FORTH, AHEAD, EDGE and GENESIS all over and over again. It's like saying Toori and Co. save the world and rebuild the world (history/FORTH), then it get developed and enter the GENESIS phrase again. It just getting repeated time after time until the CITY stage, when everything come together become stable after all the hardship. It's like a true harmony stage...

Correct me if I'm wrong...
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Old 2011-12-02, 02:02   Link #362
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Everything seems to have gone totally FUBAR in CITY though....
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Old 2011-12-02, 02:19   Link #363
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Mind telling me more about it? Please...
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Old 2011-12-02, 10:43   Link #364
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Spoiler for page count:

Heh, Horizon almost caught up with OnC's page number. I'm guessing 4C will break the most number of pages (1151pages) record Kawakami has for the 3rd time.
v1 has 1310pp. v2 has 2054pp. v3 has 2461pp. 4A and 4B sum up to 1408pp, so 4C must have at least 1053pp to top the v3 according to trend.
http://ranoben.blog106.fc2.com/blog-entry-1344.html

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*344p *599円 アクセル・ワールド10
*504p *704円 魔法科高校の劣等生(4)
*376p *620円 さくら荘のペットな彼女6
1000p 1103円 境界線上のホライゾンIV<下>
*408p *662円 C3 -シーキューブ- XIII
*392p *641円 バッカーノ!1711
*296p *578円 ヴァルプルギスの後悔 Fire4.
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Old 2011-12-02, 11:15   Link #365
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*344p *599円 アクセル・ワールド10 1.76Y/P
*504p *704円 魔法科高校の劣等生(4)1.40Y/P
*376p *620円 さくら荘のペットな彼女61.65Y/P
1000p 1103円 境界線上のホライゾンIV<下> 1.10Y/P <--
*408p *662円 C3 -シーキューブ- XIII 1.62Y/P
*392p *641円 バッカーノ!1711 1.63Y/P
*296p *578円 ヴァルプルギスの後悔 Fire4. 1.95Y/P

really a good bargain!
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Old 2011-12-02, 11:21   Link #366
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Old 2011-12-03, 08:59   Link #367
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The whole city-verse contains of six series

FORTH -> AHEAD -> EDGE -> GENESIS -> OBSTACLE -> CITY

FORTH era is about the current world
There is one finished series - "連射王".

AHEAD era is about the current world but with a bit different
There is one series in AHEAD era - the Owari no Chronicle (the chronicle of the End).
Human discovered the 11 parallel worlds (1st to 10th G "Gear" and the TOP-G). There was a war between the Gs. Only the LOW-G (our world) survived and all others Gs were destroyed. The inhabitants of the Gs brought their "Concept Core" to LOW-G and tried to adapt to the new world.
side note: "Concept Core" - maybe you can understand it as "The laws of everything"
However, the saturated and uncontrollable influence of "Concept" began to encroach the world. In order to stop the world end, our hero Sayama Mikoto and his merry friends "negotiated" with the descendants of the Gs. He had to persuade them to let the LOW-G control and manage the Concept Cores.
The story was about their "negotiation"
At the end, they succeed to let all those concept run through the world.

In EDGE era, human could go into space from the advance technology based on the AHEAD period and the new found fuel "Ether".
There is no series in EDGE era.

In GENESIS era, human returned to the Earth and found the world inhabitable. They have the technology from AHEAD and EDGE era but more of the technology were lost. Human are unable to return to the space/heaven again. Then, they start a "History Recreation Project" and believe that they can return to the space/heaven by that.
The story of Toori and Horizon begin here.

OBSTACLE era is when the world rebuilds and destroys itself. The world is similar to all the other period because it is like a recurring cycle.
There are only short stories and settings in OBSTACLE era.

CITY era is when all the technologies developed from the OBSTACLE come together. Human were close to the brink of extinction several times.
There are also only short stories in CITY era.

Unfortunately, a useful site about kawakami sensei's novel was closed few days ago. So, I can't get more info from that. I may need some times to get it back.


Also, I may post about the links between the OnC and KnH series later.
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Old 2011-12-03, 09:27   Link #368
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OBSTACLE era is when the world rebuilds and destroys itself. The world is similar to all the other period because it is like a recurring cycle.
There are only short stories and settings in OBSTACLE era.
So this means that OBSTACLE is a cycle of FORTH --> AHEAD --> EDGE --> GENESIS? This is where I just dont't get it, cos in GENESIS, the world ended, right? Or supposed to...
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Old 2011-12-03, 09:36   Link #369
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So this means that OBSTACLE is a cycle of FORTH --> AHEAD --> EDGE --> GENESIS? This is where I just dont't get it...
I don't get it too
from the source, I think it should mean "the world live in a cycle of destroy and rebuild"
It seems that it is not related to the "FORTH --> AHEAD --> EDGE --> GENESIS" cycle
The only thing related to the previous series is "Ether/Fluid"
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Old 2011-12-03, 09:55   Link #370
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Let's say FORTH is the start of it all, and GENESIS mentions about the world end. In the translation, OBSTACLE also said to be similar to other world. So that became my speculation, where the world is looping, but it's still very confusing...
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Old 2011-12-03, 10:40   Link #371
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Romanization of: レーニヨ・ユーニト?

So far, I have Reignio Unito...
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Old 2011-12-03, 10:52   Link #372
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Legno Unit?

With レーニヨ, Legno is the most sensible thing I can find... Reference: Col Legno. Does it have anything to do with K.P.A Italia?
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Old 2011-12-03, 11:04   Link #373
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Yeah, it's Innocentius' Jormungadr.

What does wood have to do with his ship?

Also, how is フトーノス romanized?
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Old 2011-12-03, 11:05   Link #374
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Let's say FORTH is the start of it all, and GENESIS mentions about the world end. In the translation, OBSTACLE also said to be similar to other world. So that became my speculation, where the world is looping, but it's still very confusing...
My take on it, based on everything so far, is that OBSTACLE is a repeat from FORTH to GENESIS. Though, I dunno how many times the repeat happened.
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Old 2011-12-03, 11:42   Link #375
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Yeah, it's Innocentius' Jormungadr.

What does wood have to do with his ship?
Isn't it just a name of his units?

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Also, how is フトーノス romanized?
Something to do with the Deadly Sins Armaments , right? I tried Greek, Russian, Latin and Italia, can't seem to find an appropriate word for it
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Old 2011-12-03, 11:46   Link #376
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It's Envy, the Sin, not the Concept. Well, there's no Concept called Envy, so this entire sentence is redun...

No, レーニヨ・ユニート is the name of his ship.
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Old 2011-12-03, 13:18   Link #377
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How did you all translate 通神?

It's that video thingy they use for long distance communications
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Old 2011-12-03, 14:22   Link #378
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Divine Transmission. I'll put it in the guidelines.
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Old 2011-12-03, 17:09   Link #379
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Yeah, it's Innocentius' Jormungadr.

What does wood have to do with his ship?

Also, how is フトーノス romanized?
フトーノス = Phtonos?

And from this wiki レーニヨ・ユーニト is probably Regno unito.
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Old 2011-12-03, 17:21   Link #380
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Sigh, somehow I knew it was レーニョ, not レーニヨ, but I can't read furigana for...

Right, thanks for both the romanizations!

I should bookmark that wiki.
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