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Old 2013-03-19, 21:41   Link #781
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Arcsys had nothing to do with the region lock. Decision came from Atlus JP.
But they did make the game and are known for sequelitis. A super P4A is all but inevitable given it's success in Japan.

Hence my point: why would you want to go through the same thing again? Regardless it's quite a dilemma b/w choosing to support a game for future sequels vs bad business practices.
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Old 2013-03-19, 22:11   Link #782
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But they did make the game and are known for sequelitis. A super P4A is all but inevitable given it's success in Japan.
I think that has more to do with the fact that fighting games have to be updated often to keep up with the balance and community.

With that said, I don't think P4A is getting updated soon since ArcSys is busy with their Blazblue series right now. Even if they do update P4A, it's quite possible that it'll just be a balance patch like before. They don't necessarily need to release a sequel or revised edition since Blazblue is their main focus.
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Old 2013-03-19, 23:38   Link #783
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I think that has more to do with the fact that fighting games have to be updated often to keep up with the balance and community.

With that said, I don't think P4A is getting updated soon since ArcSys is busy with their Blazblue series right now. Even if they do update P4A, it's quite possible that it'll just be a balance patch like before. They don't necessarily need to release a sequel or revised edition since Blazblue is their main focus.
Having a sequel isn't the problem. It's the baggage that comes with the previous game and how it could influence future sequels.

Atlus Japan shouldn't be let off the hook for their practices just like any other company.

Since Arcsys is busy working on BBCP, a patch would likely be released as early as Winter 2013. That would make it over a year since release. That's not feasible given Microsoft's/Sony's poor patching policies. They'd be taking a loss for almost no gain. In addition, the PS4/Durango is coming up and what better way to test the waters than using one of the most successful fighters in Japan currently.

It just makes no sense to release a patch this late in the game. Arcsys is the same company that released a balanced patch of GG as a full game (though great), released Extend with only one additional character, and announced CP just before P4A hit store shelves. It's inevitable that Super P4A, or whatever it'll be called, will be a new game given their history, as well as complaints about the previous game *cough* more characters *cough* that can't be solved with just a patch.

Again nothing wrong with that as the game was a hit in Japan, it's what atlus JP will do that's the scary part.
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Old 2013-05-19, 22:39   Link #784
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hello,

does anyone know what is the background music of this video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0L3bjbsl11M

it's a video of unboxing of P4A Limited Edition

thanks!
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Old 2013-05-30, 20:34   Link #785
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Been awhile since I've posted on this thread. So from now until the end of Evo I'm be uploading great matches from many great P4A players showing off their best abilities. I hope that people have a strong interest in this game since it's still being slept on and with a new GG on the horizon. None the less I hope to share great awesome videos just to hopefully keep the thread and game interest alive.

With that being said.

Ahem:

Here's a video from UFGT9 P4A Grandfinals - BananaKen (Shadow Labrys) vs Lord Knight (Mitsuru) a couple of days ago.

I have to say the final game, get hype! Great match from both players.

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Old 2013-05-30, 20:44   Link #786
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Just saw the tier list.

Seems Kanji drop from A to B? Less people using him now?
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Old 2013-05-30, 22:03   Link #787
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It's not a issue of people of using him. It's just that we're at the phase of the game where people are dividing and dissecting the best and worst, and the match-ups that change along with it. Kanji from what I've heard had always been B or bottom tier. but can win match-ups if you make the correct reads. He has very few even and one good match-up and that's it, while the rest of the cast can give him trouble most of the time.

I read that right now in Japan that the current best characters are Chie and Narukami, right now. Tied for first.
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Old 2013-06-01, 01:07   Link #788
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Been awhile since I've posted on this thread. So from now until the end of Evo I'm be uploading great matches from many great P4A players showing off their best abilities. I hope that people have a strong interest in this game since it's still being slept on and with a new GG on the horizon. None the less I hope to share great awesome videos just to hopefully keep the thread and game interest alive.

With that being said.

Ahem:

Here's a video from UFGT9 P4A Grandfinals - BananaKen (Shadow Labrys) vs Lord Knight (Mitsuru) a couple of days ago.

I have to say the final game, get hype! Great match from both players.

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dat look on Lord Knight's face

LK panicked when BananaKen activated SLab's IK. But yeah, that was awesome
what a way to end the tourney
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Old 2013-06-01, 11:21   Link #789
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dat look on Lord Knight's face

LK panicked when BananaKen activated SLab's IK. But yeah, that was awesome
what a way to end the tourney
That was hype because SLab is the only character in the game that can combo into her IK. There are a few ways to do it, but BananaKen just chose to style.

SLab is definitely climbing the up the tier list, and you can see a lot of her online these days.
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Old 2013-06-01, 11:43   Link #790
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SLab is definitely climbing the up the tier list, and you can see a lot of her online these days.
much like Liz, she's Persona reliant, gimicky and thin as paper (Liz is thinner though)
the amount of + frames Asterios gives SLab on block is ridiculous. Not to mention those crazy cross-ups and mix-ups. It's no wonder she'd get a higher tier

oh and btw, IIRC
Mitsuru's still High Tier along with Chie and Yu
I forgot, do you have the updated tier list?
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Old 2013-06-01, 11:47   Link #791
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Go figure both using female characters.
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Old 2013-06-01, 12:00   Link #792
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Not to mention those crazy cross-ups and mix-ups. It's no wonder she'd get a higher tier
Same can be said for almost every "puppeteer character"
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Old 2013-06-01, 12:31   Link #793
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Same can be said for almost every "puppeteer character"
Carl Clover's a puppeteer character and has better cross-up options but he's just mid-tier on CP

not everyone gets tricked by gimmicks lol
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Old 2013-06-01, 12:37   Link #794
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Carl Clover's a puppeteer character and has better cross-up options but he's just mid-tier on CP

not everyone gets tricked by gimmicks lol
Carl has been fairly high tier in almost every version of blazblue except for CP, because most of his changes nerfed the properties of many of his moves.

Also Carl is probably harder to play than S.Labrys
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Old 2013-06-01, 13:12   Link #795
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much like Liz, she's Persona reliant, gimicky and thin as paper (Liz is thinner though)
the amount of + frames Asterios gives SLab on block is ridiculous. Not to mention those crazy cross-ups and mix-ups. It's no wonder she'd get a higher tier

oh and btw, IIRC
Mitsuru's still High Tier along with Chie and Yu
I forgot, do you have the updated tier list?
That's right, and her unblockable set-ups makes her a threat when she knocks you down. I truly hate that command grab set-up when she knocks you down. You can get out of it, but timing and when to do it is the issue. I forgot that Elizabeth can combo into her IK, but it takes a lot of window and time for it to activate.

Oh yes, a youtuber by the name of BanchouJP has stated that many top players (either Japan, America, or both) claim that Narukami and Chie are the best characters in the game currently.

Here's the current tier list I believe...:

S - Narukami, Chie
A - Mitsuru, Aigis, Teddie, Shadow Labrys, Yosuke
B - Akihiko, Yukiko, Naoto, Kanji, Elizabeth, Labrys


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Carl has been fairly high tier in almost every version of blazblue except for CP, because most of his changes nerfed the properties of many of his moves.

Also Carl is probably harder to play than S.Labrys
SLab is easier than Carl because in terms of "puppet" positioning her options are better, but more risky because if she can't play offense and defense effectively, she could get her Persona broken easily. In terms of sets up and risk taking Carl's options are better because Nirvana can take more of a beating compared to SLab Persona.
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Old 2013-06-01, 13:23   Link #796
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Aside from BananaKen being a great player, no one exactly knows the Shabby Match-up.
Past tourneys have shown that lack of matchup experience, due to the character being underplayed, can be fatal even at high-level play.
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Old 2013-06-01, 13:26   Link #797
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If I know the general fighting game community well enough, many people are going to play her now just because she won a tournament
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Old 2013-06-01, 20:09   Link #798
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Aside from BananaKen being a great player, no one exactly knows the Shabby Match-up.
Past tourneys have shown that lack of matchup experience, due to the character being underplayed, can be fatal even at high-level play.
not entirely the case but I guess it affects a bit
I'm not so sure about this but Yukiko is just as underplayed
there are only a few good ones out there. But I haven't sen a Yukiko player get as far as a semi-final

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If I know the general fighting game community well enough, many people are going to play her now just because she won a tournament
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reminds me of the time She-Hulk suddenly got popular because of J.Wong and then Spencer as well because of Combofiend's match against Marn
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Old 2013-07-05, 23:23   Link #799
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It's been awhile since I've been on here due to lack of info. Now that I'm able to be on AS frequently again, here are the list of Japanese finest coming to attend Persona 4 Arena at Evo next week.

JP players entering P4A so far:

Tokido
Kazunoko
Dogura
Iori
ABEGEN
Haatenxia
Tomo
DIE Chan
Stunedge
Mui
Hatia
Aru

Please note that some of the players I'm familiar with, but the others not so much. It's still strange that Kirisame, Shouji, Shuuto, Damous, Kubo, Moko, Denpa, or one of the 4 Narukami gods not being listed. I don't know if they're coming down, but I hope they'll attend.
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Old 2013-07-12, 11:49   Link #800
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anyone else watching EVO streams right now?
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