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Old 2013-11-20, 13:16   Link #741
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I hadn't even seen the other Macross series. To me, Frontier went absolutely no where because of all the references. I'm sorry, but I didn't enjoy it.

Alto was a crummy lead because it was hard to tell if he actually liked anyone. His dream of flying in an atmosphere while romantic wasn't really much of a goal. They oversold the fact that he was some great actor, that more than a pilot or a mercenary or anything at all, he could fool people into believing in him. Mikhail even said at one point that Alto was merely performing a role whenever he did anything. He was 'acting' when he was a pilot or when was a love interest for either of the girls.

I don't know about you, but it's hard to like a character that is a habitual bullshitter. He felt very shallow and didn't have chemistry with anyone as a result.

Sheryl felt the same exact way as Alto did. The only time I thought she seemed natural was in episode 4 I think it was? Where she had a tour of Frontier. That was the only episode I thought she was actually kind of cute. Otherwise she was merely a drama queen and a performer much like Alto. Even when she was literally dying I thought she was merely enjoying the tragic story that was her life.

Ranka was great. Her innocence worked well in contrast to the cruel and shallow Alto and Sheryl. She actually felt real compared to the other characters in the series.

Story-wise, just terrible. The references killed it. I mean, who really deserved to win at the end? Frontier? The SMS? The Cyber Club? To me the Varja should have just eaten everyone since they're the ones who are having their territory encroached upon by humanity. That would have been the best end.
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Old 2013-11-20, 13:57   Link #742
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I hadn't even seen the other Macross series. To me, Frontier went absolutely no where because of all the references. I'm sorry, but I didn't enjoy it.
And what references are you referring to if you haven't seen other Macross series?

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To me the Varja should have just eaten everyone since they're the ones who are having their territory encroached upon by humanity. That would have been the best end.
Except the Vajra don't really have a territory to speak of. But, it would appear you have missed the case where humanity & the vajra were, in fact, coexisting in peace until the birth of Ranka Lee.

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Her innocence worked well


I think we have beaten that topic to death. Feel free to drop by here if you really feel you have something else to add. Otherwise, I do not imagine the mods here would be very happy if this board explodes again.

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Old 2013-11-20, 14:56   Link #743
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And what references are you referring to if you haven't seen other Macross series?
How about two episodes dedicated to the making of a movie about one of the previous series? Where one of the main characters takes on the role of playing the part of one of the main characters from the previous series (and the other main character acts a stunt double for a kissing scene between the two other main characters from that series)? Or when the old pilot guy nearly died after eating pineapple, a direct reference to when the old pilot guy died from the first series?

Just to name a few.

People were very vocal about all the references and homages being made when the series first aired. It was quite distracting and left the impression that they were shoehorning in as many as they could. Which they probably were. It didn't leave any room for any of the characters outside of Alto and Ranka to come into their room.
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Old 2013-11-20, 15:10   Link #744
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How about two episodes dedicated to the making of a movie about one of the previous series? Where one of the main characters takes on the role of playing the part of one of the main characters from the previous series (and the other main character acts a stunt double for a kissing scene between the two other main characters from that series)? Or when the old pilot guy nearly died after eating pineapple, a direct reference to when the old pilot guy died from the first series?

Just to name a few.

People were very vocal about all the references and homages being made when the series first aired.
So basically you were distracted by the more vocal fans about the references of the series rather than the references you discovered yourself?

Thats quite a pity, having yourself spoiled by the fans.

Though not quite a justification to call this series a show of references.

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Old 2013-11-20, 15:10   Link #745
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<checks into thread>

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Nah. Too easy.

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Old 2013-11-20, 15:49   Link #746
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...You guys seem to have had alot of practice bashing Ranka discussing Frontier. I'll just leave it at that.
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Old 2013-11-20, 16:09   Link #747
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Yes, character analysis sometimes comes off as negative if you analyze properly what a character has accomplished in her/his time on the show.
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Old 2013-11-20, 16:42   Link #748
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Yes, character analysis sometimes comes off as negative if you analyze properly what a character has accomplished in her/his time on the show.
Honestly, if she really was trying to kill everyone that'd only give me more reason to like her.
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Old 2013-11-20, 17:20   Link #749
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Honestly, if she really was trying to kill everyone that'd only give me more reason to like her.
Well, everybody is allowed to her/his own opinion, no matter how wrongheaded that opinion might be. I'll refrain from re-hashing for the nth time all the wrong things about Ranka, I've been down that road a lot of times before. ^^
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Old 2013-11-20, 17:25   Link #750
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Well, everybody is allowed to her/his own opinion, no matter how wrongheaded that opinion might be. I'll refrain from re-hashing for the nth time all the wrong things about Ranka, I've been down that road a lot of times before. ^^
Hey, for a change of pace, why not hash out all the wrongs about Sheryl/Alto/and the evil lady?

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Old 2013-11-20, 17:26   Link #751
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Honestly, if she really was trying to kill everyone that'd only give me more reason to like her.
I am not going to lie, there were times when I wish Ranka was Yuno Gasai.

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Hey, for a change of pace, why not hash out all the wrongs about Sheryl/Alto/and the evil lady?
Why bother? Its also been done and beaten to death by the opposition. Seriously, if it does come down to it, it will simply be a rehash of what we've all been through from 2007 ~ 2010. Its like having an answering machine replaying its greeting message.

But if you really want to, you can always come here. Moderator approved. Now with 16 pages and counting

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Old 2013-11-21, 02:17   Link #752
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Why bother? Its also been done and beaten to death by the opposition. Seriously, if it does come down to it, it will simply be a rehash of what we've all been through from 2007 ~ 2010. Its like having an answering machine replaying its greeting message.
Here, here.

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Can't promise that I'll be up to it, though, too much stuff going on in RL which needs to be dealt with.
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It's that time of the year again, huh? Nothing to see here, folks...
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Nothing to see here, folks...
Kind of the thing what Tak and me were pointing out here.
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Kind of the thing what Tak and me were pointing out here.
Sorry for butting in, then. Going back to lurker mode...
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Sorry for butting in, then. Going back to lurker mode...
My goodness, why are you touchy lately?
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We go to Hyogo (that's right, HYOGO) and also visit Arcadia.

http://www.macrossworld.com/5904/mac...t-1/#more-5904


AAAAAANNNNDDD... Part 2.

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Old 2014-01-08, 12:01   Link #759
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They need to get those older JASDF fighters, paint it in VF-1 schemes and run a show with it

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Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload?

I guess I lurked a bit too long so I'm having a hard time navigating this place. I don't see Macross 30 The Voice that Connects the Galaxy heated discussion. The game looks so freaking epic and none has anything to say about it? ˇˇ'
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