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Old 2011-09-28, 00:38   Link #1
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[Manga] Naruto Chapter 557 Discussion

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It's a new week, so that means new Naruto spoilers...

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-2nd Mizukage’s technique has created hail. Giant ice balls are falling from the sky.

-The technique creates an exploding steam clone that expands and contracts as it gets hotter or colder.

-A steam clone attacks Gaara and Oonoki, but the Tsuchikage tells Gaara to focus on finding the real Mizukage and to leave the clone to him and the other shinobi.

-Gaara attempts to seal the dead Mizukage before the technique reaches completion, but to no avail.

-Fight continues into next week.

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Old 2011-09-28, 08:03   Link #2
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The iceball thing is kinda weird...
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Old 2011-09-28, 08:03   Link #3
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So can anyone remember their chemistry/physics lessons back in high school?
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Old 2011-09-28, 08:03   Link #4
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Chapter out.

Gaara vs. Mizukage

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Old 2011-09-28, 08:12   Link #5
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hm. so Naruto did NOT help out yet - and yet it is a tad boring chapter. Somehow this dummy explosive clone looks a lot less impressive than I expected after last chapter. And of course it had to be daddy's gold sand of undying love that is used to get by 0.o MEH I say Well, at least he used some brains I guess ... btw Oonoki's back quirks are gettin kinda old
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Old 2011-09-28, 08:20   Link #6
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I can't believe how you made it sound worse than what it is in the chapter. Nice job
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Old 2011-09-28, 08:23   Link #7
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hahaha... it's been quite a while I read a good Naruto chapters..... nice Chemistry and Physics lesson....
Gaara is a genius for thinking that.... although he will be hopeless if he didn't face his father and collect gold sand before
It's also good thing that Naruto doesn't need to defeat too many enemies.... I almost think that Naruto will be the one who finish that Mizukage
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Old 2011-09-28, 09:06   Link #8
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So, I'm confused. What does the hail do? Is it just shrapnel? Or is it just a byproduct of the exploding steam cloud?

Still, I thought the technique was interesting. Easily one of the most interesting pure elemental techniques we have seen in awhile.
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Old 2011-09-28, 09:11   Link #9
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Mizukage is such a boss. He takes your strongest attack and made it his strongest defense. Talks about being trollkage.
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Old 2011-09-28, 09:12   Link #10
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The hail cools the process down after the clone exploded so the technique can be executed again
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Old 2011-09-28, 09:32   Link #11
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The pacing is terrible though no matter how cool the fight is.
It just seems so drawn out.
But like James said glad some elemental focus is back.
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Old 2011-09-28, 09:44   Link #12
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Mizukage is such a boss. He takes your strongest attack and made it his strongest defense. Talks about being trollkage.
Funny cause he actually looks kinda like he has a permanent trollface
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Old 2011-09-28, 09:52   Link #13
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While I won't say it's a great chapter, it's still very enjoyable simply cause Mizukage has to this point been a rather entertaining character.

Whether or not one wants to put real chemistry/physics into the fight, up to them but I see it as more a judgement call since it's all about ninja's with super powers

Still a pretty good fight by any standard.
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I've come to realize something...Kirigakure characters are just more entertaining than most others...
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Old 2011-09-28, 09:57   Link #15
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Nice chapter. Mizukage is as awesome as always, an Gaara's counterattack was really nice. A golden egg, indeed.
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Old 2011-09-28, 12:49   Link #16
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I like how Gaara didn't randomly get faster but utilized a good trick to slow down his target.
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Old 2011-09-28, 13:09   Link #17
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Ok I cannot actually get over that, water boils at 100 degrees and the melting point of gold is 1000 degrees, how the hell did Gaara melt the gold?
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Old 2011-09-28, 13:12   Link #18
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Ok I cannot actually get over that, water boils at 100 degrees and the melting point of gold is 1000 degrees, how the hell did Gaara melt the gold?
Water boils at 100 but the oil has to be much much hotter than that in order to flash boil water fast enough to cause a steam explosion.
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Old 2011-09-28, 14:30   Link #19
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Ok I cannot actually get over that, water boils at 100 degrees and the melting point of gold is 1000 degrees, how the hell did Gaara melt the gold?
It depends on the pressure applied (can be at max. about 280 C degrees). But it's below 1000 anyway

But it's pointless to apply the exact physics of our world, in that case you would discover at least one plot hole on every page of the manga

I didn't expect Kishimoto focusing all on Gaara, now it seems he is one of the side characters like Shikamaru who were singled out by Kishimoto, while the average side characters like Neji or Temari simply don't get enough screen time to do anything important and interesting. I guess the author decided that focusing on too many side characters would make the manga too long and boring so he singled out a few of them, those who are also best candidates to be Naruto's close allies in the end game when Madara and Sasuke come to kick ass. As the mizukage said: Gaara has no chance against the enemy boss if he can't even beat a dead kage, so now it seems Kishi wants to make Gaara the hero of this fight and not Naruto and also he will be there to help Naruto.
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Old 2011-09-28, 15:10   Link #20
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It depends on the pressure applied (can be at max. about 280 C degrees). But it's below 1000 anyway

But it's pointless to apply the exact physics of our world, in that case you would discover at least one plot hole on every page of the manga
Manga Physics aside, the heating element has no reason to be at the exact boiling temperature of water.

Your own stovetop isn't 100 degrees when you put a kettle on it for instance.
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