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Old 2012-04-25, 17:21   Link #541
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Old 2012-04-25, 19:54   Link #542
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Finished watching episode 4.
Spoiler for Episode 4:
You don't actually know any Japanese do you? Your summaries tend to be extremely confused.

Anyway:

Spoiler for 4:
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Old 2012-04-26, 00:01   Link #543
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You don't actually know any Japanese do you? Your summaries tend to be extremely confused.
I actually know Japanese, but I don't learn much many words. I also watch subs sometimes. The sentences I wrote at the end is in fact a opinion rather than being part to the plot.
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Old 2012-04-26, 00:37   Link #544
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I actually know Japanese, but I don't learn much many words. I also watch subs sometimes. The sentences I wrote at the end is in fact a opinion rather than being part to the plot.
Your description of the plot is also wrong/misleading. Or more like your omitting important details that explain the overall point of the story.

Not that it really matters, I just thought it was weird.
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Old 2012-04-26, 00:57   Link #545
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Your description of the plot is also wrong/misleading. Or more like your omitting important details that explain the overall point of the story.

Not that it really matters, I just thought it was weird.
Maybe I'll wait for subs then (I'm french, but I don't mind english). You could read my opinion about this show (starting with "other than that").
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Old 2012-04-26, 03:24   Link #546
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Akune's submissive attitude towards Medaka is still so unsightly. However there were still a couple moments this episode where he managed to come off as legitimately cool.

Of particular interest was Akune's parting conversation with Nabeshima. While on the one hand, Medaka's "there are no prodigies; all humans struggle to live" was a statement in general terms, Akune specifically stated regarding his Judo ability that "it took a lot of hard work and determination to get where I am now". At that point in the story, none of us had any real idea what that "determination" might actually have consisted of; but being aware of Akune's backstory, I can now appreciate/conceptualize the actual dedication Akune must've put into his Judo work. Certainly there is more to Akune's character than being a mere "prodigy"/"genius". Even within these initial episodes, you can see how effort/dedication is also a thorough part of his personality.

Crunchyroll's translation of Nabeshima's nickname, the "Judo Trickster", seriously lacks impact. In the manga the epithet we are used to is "Foul Queen". It's a bit of a pity we won't get to see the true value of Nabeshima's character if this is limited to a 12-episode run.
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Old 2012-04-26, 03:27   Link #547
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I just finished the subs a few minutes ago, and I must remark that it's one of the most plot significant episodes so far, since it introduces Akune Kouki, one of the major characters whose character development is the entire point of a rather large background sub-plot that eventually reaches a head in the
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. So, it does a rather good job at highlighting all the flaws and problems regarding Akune. If he is meant to be disliked, keep in mind that the anime is faithfully adapting a manga that intended to put this character through significant character development over the course of the next few arcs. Akune has a very long way to go before he comes onto his own, do NOT expect a massive amount of development by the end of this Cour, since his development elapsed over 100 chapters in manga.

My biggest contention with this episode is that it highlights the inappropriateness of Medaka's VA. I cannot conceive of how this VA is going to work with that kind of meek, moe soft spoken voice once the anime hits the genre shift. Already, there's quite alot of problems - much of the delivery lacks impact in this episode, because the VA just can't seem to hit the necessary Candace to reflect Medaka accurately. Her dismissal of Akune for example, fell very, very flat- it lacked that "sharp" bite that would have brought the emotional significance of that scene out.

On the other hand, Akune's and Zenkichi's VA does an acceptable job. Still, it's disconcerting to see Medaka with a voice meeker than Nekomini. There's alot of scenes down the line where Medaka really breaks out the Ham in the manga, and I am very doubtful of whether the VA can deliver that well.

Next episode will be another plot significant episode it appears- but execution would be everything.
Spoiler for Speculations on the rest of the Cour:


What I fear is that it would be too late in the Cour by the time the anime really reaches the meat of Medaka Box, and would lead to howls of protest both here, MAL the Blogosphere and the Chans over the jarring tonal disconnect.

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Old 2012-04-26, 03:28   Link #548
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I highly doubt it will just be 12 episodes then boom its finished as episode 12 would have to be an anime original ending with the pace atm being 2 chapters an episode meaning episode 12 containing chapters 22,23, which is highly unlikely to end there.

So far episode 3 covered - chapters 4 & 5
Episode 4 covered 6 & 7
Judging by the preview Episode 5 is covering chapters 9 & 10
Which means the 3rd arc will most likely begin with episode 8
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Old 2012-04-26, 03:39   Link #549
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I highly doubt it will just be 12 episodes then boom its finished as episode 12 would have to be an anime original ending with the pace atm being 2 chapters an episode meaning episode 12 containing chapters 22,23, which is highly unlikely to end there.
An Anime original ending would arguably embrace some of the worst piece of writing since Guilty Crown, and a piece of canon desecration on par with the Negima anime (and movie adaptations.)

So, hopefully, no.

If there is a Second Cour however, the tone will be very different from the first Cour. Hopefully, Gainax does not astound manga readers by trying (and somewhat succeeding) to cram what's to come into a Romantic Comedy Blackhole.

If they can pull of the last third of the Cour very well, it'll be an excellent sign for the Second Cour. If the adapters are stuck in "Rom-Com Echii Harem" mode still, we'll be treated to a trainwreck, I'd imagine.
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Old 2012-04-26, 03:49   Link #550
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^^ Lets hope they can pull it off.
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Old 2012-04-26, 04:04   Link #551
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^^ Lets hope they can pull it off.
It really depends whether the Producers really realize that what they have on their hands is a genre shifting story that turns from Slice of Life to something extremely, extremely different.
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Old 2012-04-26, 12:52   Link #552
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Hitoyoshi vs Akune! No wonder he was avoiding Judo club.
White vs Black belt. It was a nice match.
OMG, even Akune joined the student council. That sure made Hitoyoshi mad.
Guess those two will be clashing horns from now on.
Akune's first official request was not easy as he though, but he did his best.
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Old 2012-04-26, 12:59   Link #553
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...Akune has a very long way to go before he comes onto his own, do NOT expect a massive amount of development by the end of this Cour, since his development elapsed over 100 chapters in manga.

My biggest contention with this episode is that it highlights the inappropriateness of Medaka's VA....
1. I thought Akane underwent some character development just in this episode itself. At least, my feelings toward him did.

2. I echo your concern about Toyosaki Aki as Medaka. Somehow she is able to drop Medaka into the background, so she doesn't even feel like the star of her own show. I saw her getting the soft side of Medaka last episode, but Medaka's real forcefulness has just vanished. This casting is unfair to Medaka, and unfair to Aki, too.

On the other hand, I think Ono Yuuki is great as Zenkichi. Zenkichi is a great character, too. I loved his combination of acceptance and dry enmity when Akune was let into the student council. Ono Yuuki (Pin in Kimi ni Todoke, Arashi's little brother in Sore demo Machi wa Mawatteiru, Kaname in Kimi to Boku):



And I like the show overall -- so far....
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Old 2012-04-26, 17:53   Link #554
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Lol Akune failed the first time, but made up for it. Wonder what Shiranui did with the pictures she took.
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Old 2012-04-26, 18:13   Link #555
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Wonder what Shiranui did with the pictures she took.
Maybe photoshop them and sell to the highest bidder. Or use them as blackmail.
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Old 2012-04-26, 20:23   Link #556
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I missed Medaka's panties this episode. Her boobs are kind of ridiculous, so I need something else to keep my attention.

And yeah, Toyosaki is not working as Medaka. I actually like Akune thus far (never read the manga).
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Old 2012-04-27, 00:57   Link #557
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Well I don't know if I even need to comment this...

I hope that somebody still will be watching it by the 6-7 episode.
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Old 2012-04-27, 01:26   Link #558
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Well I don't know if I even need to comment this...

I hope that somebody still will be watching it by the 6-7 episode.
Could you explain the significance of the vertical axis please.

Thanks.
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Old 2012-04-27, 01:40   Link #559
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Those are per day preorder rankings--that is, the rate that (every day) people are making preorders for the product (in this case Medaka Box Blu-ray Vol. 1). Think of preorder rankings like Velocity (in physics) and total sales like Distance. The higher the ranking the better; once you fall past the first hundred ranks or so, the rate of your new daily preorders is so low as to be practically negligible.
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Old 2012-04-27, 01:55   Link #560
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tbh does it really matter about how much pre orders there are atm, the 1st volume is released in about two months so still plenty of time for it to increase in preorders......... i hope
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