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Old 2012-07-02, 02:39   Link #2141
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Spidero Chrome? Chrome disaster is more like venom. It will eat you apart.
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Old 2012-07-02, 03:12   Link #2142
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hit and run tactics are probably won't work on the big hitters or higher level that can just shrug of his attacks. Look at the fortress red king and invulnerable green king. His petty attacks won't even probably put a dent on their heavy armory.
I have to disagree that his current tactics wouldn't be effective against them, keep in mind Silver Crow's special attacks actually do a TON of damage. We have seen him take out the majority of an Avatar's lifebar with a single special attack. This is especially apparent when he does his flying attacks; his punch against Cyan Pile (who is is anything but fragile) took over 50% of his lifebar, and his kick decapitated the 5th Chrome Disaster.

Even Scarlet Rain had to de-equip her armor to dodge that attack, she wouldn't have avoided it if it wasn't a threat.

As for the Green King, if he is even half as slow as he looks, I imagine Haru has to damage him once in the entire fight, then simply spend the rest in the air and he can't do anything about it.

I imagine the types that really mess with him are the Yellow (indirect attack) types, as if the Yellow King's abilities are any indication, his mobility doesn't really help him avoid the effect.
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Old 2012-07-02, 04:20   Link #2143
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As Silver Crow currently is, I still see him having trouble against any of the kings. If it is just straight speed and flight, his kicks will have a lot of power. Except, it requires usually a stationary target. Also, although he was able to lift Chrome Disaster, he would not be able to lift Scarlet Rain in full armor or even the Green King.

As for Green King's absolute defense, Haru would probably break his legs if he kicked it at full force. One of Silver Crow's biggest weakness is that he is fragile, unless they have changed that somehow.

Silver Crow definitely needs a true enhancement if he ever wishes to be at the same levels as the other kings. Hence, I do believe that he will acquire some powerful weapon or armor to accompany his skills.
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Old 2012-07-02, 05:19   Link #2144
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Yeah, his kick is only effective to those who can't dodge in time or who are dumb enough to stand still except for those full armor opponents.

He can assume other roles though. He could be bait during team battles. He would just lure opponents to an ambush. Another role would be recon due to his flight ability.
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Old 2012-07-02, 07:07   Link #2145
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I have to disagree that his current tactics wouldn't be effective against them, keep in mind Silver Crow's special attacks actually do a TON of damage. We have seen him take out the majority of an Avatar's lifebar with a single special attack. This is especially apparent when he does his flying attacks; his punch against Cyan Pile (who is is anything but fragile) took over 50% of his lifebar, and his kick decapitated the 5th Chrome Disaster.

Even Scarlet Rain had to de-equip her armor to dodge that attack, she wouldn't have avoided it if it wasn't a threat.

As for the Green King, if he is even half as slow as he looks, I imagine Haru has to damage him once in the entire fight, then simply spend the rest in the air and he can't do anything about it.

I imagine the types that really mess with him are the Yellow (indirect attack) types, as if the Yellow King's abilities are any indication, his mobility doesn't really help him avoid the effect.
Green King can tank chrome disaster attack and yet still live. Even if not agile. He doesn't need to move to even attack the enemy. The enemy will be attacking him. Plus the world invincible is not for laughs. His really invincible.

Silver crows attacks might be strong but its an attack of downward attack where he built his momentum to increase the damage and he needs distance to do it and a stationary targets. Targets like yellow king that can be fast as black lotus won't be something that can be hit by it plus yellow king is a master of illusion.

Chrome disaster is already near dead from the attack of Nico that took chrome disaster and black lotus together and trust me it hits hard because that is the special attack of Nico that put a huge hole on the building. That's why Silver Crow manage to beat him up because he is already near death but still that itself is a feat. To be able to put an end to it.

Red king can probably tank that attack though not sure..... she did move but seriously it looks to me that she is just playing around.

Silver crow attacks might be good on low levels and the same level as him but as the level gap grew. The higher level won't be having hard time to deal with him.
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Old 2012-07-02, 11:09   Link #2146
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The 12th episode was great! Though, I want to see Kuroyuki-hime more. ;-)

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Old 2012-07-02, 16:46   Link #2147
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Can he swing from a thread
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Actually, given how part of Chrome Disaster is lynched onto Haru, the better line for that should be this:

Can he swing from a thread?
No he can't. He's a pig.
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Old 2012-07-02, 19:29   Link #2148
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Old 2012-07-02, 20:02   Link #2149
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^ It's as if Niko has joined the group. Althought that would be a very nice and tempting gesture, I have a feeling this will be the last we'll see of Niko for awhile. I do hope I'm wrong, but she is just not part of Nega Nebulous, hence not close with the core group.
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Old 2012-07-02, 20:14   Link #2150
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Green King can tank chrome disaster attack and yet still live. Even if not agile. He doesn't need to move to even attack the enemy. The enemy will be attacking him. Plus the world invincible is not for laughs. His really invincible.
All Silver Crow would have to do is land a single attack, it wouldn't even need to do much damage, then wait for the time limit in a normal match and he would win.

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Silver crows attacks might be strong but its an attack of downward attack where he built his momentum to increase the damage and he needs distance to do it and a stationary targets. Targets like yellow king that can be fast as black lotus won't be something that can be hit by it plus yellow king is a master of illusion.
No one else has the luxury of air-superiority that Silver Crow does, so he can get all the distance he needs to perform his attacks, I also don't see why the target needs to be stationary, he has an easy enough time hitting moving targets considering his speed advantage against similarly leveled avatars.

His speed will obviously increase as he levels, and his attack power is more then sufficient with that in mind.

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Chrome disaster is already near dead from the attack of Nico that took chrome disaster and black lotus together and trust me it hits hard because that is the special attack of Nico that put a huge hole on the building. That's why Silver Crow manage to beat him up because he is already near death but still that itself is a feat. To be able to put an end to it.
Still, Silver Crow's kick did the most visible damage to Chrome Disaster, despite both Black Lotus and Scarlet Rain damaging it beforehand. He blew its head straight off and shattered its armor. The 4th Chrome disaster was defeated through the combined efforts of the 7 King's of Pure Color, this one was defeated by 2 King's and Silver Crow.

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Red king can probably tank that attack though not sure..... she did move but seriously it looks to me that she is just playing around.
Black Lotus seemed impressed that he forced her to move at all, considering her reputation. This implies Niko knew she couldn't take the attack straight on without some serious damage, otherwise she simply wouldn't have bothered.

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Silver crow attacks might be good on low levels and the same level as him but as the level gap grew. The higher level won't be having hard time to deal with him.
This is assuming a level gap, anyone would suffer just as badly if not worse in the same situation. I doubt Cyan Pile would perform as well as Silver Crow did against Scarlet Rain.

We were discussing Silver Crow leveling up as well. Black Lotus of all people told him to focus on his flight speed/time above all else. If she doesn't think he needs to improve his damage, then she is most likely right.
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Old 2012-07-02, 21:14   Link #2151
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You know, the Silver/Chrome fusion is blatantly obvious to be some superpower setup h4xx to be utilized later in the story. Could be one of many things The Architect has set in motion to ensure Haru turns into The One.

Just running on cliches, but this one glows brighter than flaming pantsu.
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Old 2012-07-02, 21:45   Link #2152
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Old 2012-07-02, 22:16   Link #2153
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You know, the Silver/Chrome fusion is blatantly obvious to be some superpower setup h4xx to be utilized later in the story. Could be one of many things The Architect has set in motion to ensure Haru turns into The One.

Just running on cliches, but this one glows brighter than flaming pantsu.
I think you're probably right. The most obvious allusion (that they've setup extremely clearly in the first two arcs of the show) is that Haruyuki and Kuroyukihime will be forced to fight at one point as a result of this armor, but it's pretty clear that they'll come up with some sort of solution that doesn't involve the Cherry Rook answer ("Game Over"). And, as you say, it's quite possible this will be the segue into the "Silver Crow is The One" realization (allusions to which are also pretty blatant -- Trinity Kuroyukihime believes it...).
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Old 2012-07-02, 22:22   Link #2154
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The Matrix had 'Gamemaster' agents from the very beginning, along with 'The One', while Accel World doesn't even mention those after this first arc or two. I'm thinking you guys are looking too deeply into this?

Sure, we have the 'go faster than anyone' shtick by KYH, but rather than something like 'destiny' a la The Matrix backing Haru up I'm thinking it's just something mundane like thinking speed. Above average at most, but not something by its very nature different from other people's.
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Sure, we have the 'go faster than anyone' shtick by KYH, but rather than something like 'destiny' a la The Matrix backing Haru up I'm thinking it's just something mundane like thinking speed. Above average at most, but not something by its very nature different from other people's.
Well, in the end it's really no different -- it's destiny for us as followers of the story either way. In the end, the implication is that only one person can reach Level 10, and I think it's safe to say that Haruyuki will be the one to get there... eventually. They've already implied that the goal is to determine the creator's identity and objective in creating the game... but who knows where they'll go with that. Maybe the game creator is looking for someone...? In any case, I doubt they'll get that far in this anime season, anyway.
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Old 2012-07-03, 09:38   Link #2156
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The Matrix had 'Gamemaster' agents from the very beginning, along with 'The One', while Accel World doesn't even mention those after this first arc or two. I'm thinking you guys are looking too deeply into this?

Sure, we have the 'go faster than anyone' shtick by KYH, but rather than something like 'destiny' a la The Matrix backing Haru up I'm thinking it's just something mundane like thinking speed. Above average at most, but not something by its very nature different from other people's.
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Well, in the end it's really no different -- it's destiny for us as followers of the story either way. In the end, the implication is that only one person can reach Level 10, and I think it's safe to say that Haruyuki will be the one to get there... eventually. They've already implied that the goal is to determine the creator's identity and objective in creating the game... but who knows where they'll go with that. Maybe the game creator is looking for someone...? In any case, I doubt they'll get that far in this anime season, anyway.
I called the creator of the Accel World The Architect, which really is kinda apt. Sure, not everyone is present (sure as hell can't see Taku as Mobius), but enough of those elements exist pointing to a cliche waiting to be used.

I'm hoping that it will be used entertainingly. And so far, despite the rampant flat chests, this series delivers.
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Old 2012-07-03, 22:09   Link #2157
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I called the creator of the Accel World The Architect, which really is kinda apt. Sure, not everyone is present (sure as hell can't see Taku as Mobius), but enough of those elements exist pointing to a cliche waiting to be used.
The more I see Matrix terms being used here, the more I'm really reminded of wanting to watch Sword Art Online, since I feel that's a little more like matrix then accel world (Though I haven't read enough of the Light novels, so this is just my current opinion).

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Old 2012-07-04, 09:08   Link #2158
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So, what happens to the real person in the world when he got infected or corrupted by disaster chrome? Will he become a psychopath?
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Old 2012-07-04, 15:09   Link #2159
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So, what happens to the real person in the world when he got infected or corrupted by disaster chrome? Will he become a psychopath?
So far the side effect (madness) mainly takes place in AW, though there was something mentioned in episode 12 how Cherry used Burst Link while on the sub way.

We don't know for sure whether it was his decision or influenced by CD, but a normal thinking person (and Burst Linker) wouldn't really dive into the neutral field from a place where their bodies aren't save, so my guess is the corruption does affect the mind to a certain degree.
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So far the side effect (madness) mainly takes place in AW, though there was something mentioned in episode 12 how Cherry used Burst Link while on the sub way.

We don't know for sure whether it was his decision or influenced by CD, but a normal thinking person (and Burst Linker) wouldn't really dive into the neutral field from a place where their bodies aren't save, so my guess is the corruption does affect the mind to a certain degree.
With the stated ability to "mentally age" while in the Accelerated World, it's safe to assume the madness can go back into the player's real personality as well.
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