AnimeSuki Forums

Register Forum Rules FAQ Members List Social Groups Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   AnimeSuki Forum > Anime Discussion > Older Series > Accel World

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 2012-05-01, 17:10   Link #1121
tsunade666
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: In my room
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinestra View Post
This is what im wondering. You need to accelerate to enter the duel she is in a coma so she could not accelerate to accept the dual anyway. I guess we dont know enough about how the Brain Burst program actually interacts with the brain and nervous system.
There is no accepting in brain burst duel. One's your challenge you can't deny it. Just like the thing when Haru first entered the global connection. Ash Roller challenge him and he was force into duel. And that's why in the second battle. Haru first accelerate and find Ash Roller then Duel him before someone challenge him.

So even if KYM is in coma. She will be force to duel but since she can't fight and in comatose. She will just lie there and the opponent will just kill her again and again.
__________________

tsunade666 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-05-01, 18:11   Link #1122
Xaturas
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Interesting anime to be frank I'm surprised. At first ep I thought it would be some decent stuff but then I got a nice surprise. This one will probably be one of the better of this season. For sure its story is quite worthy, however we will see how things will work out after ep 4. I hope it will stay good or get better.

Ohhh and wonder how long will the anime be, aka how many novel volumes will they animate. Considering that novel is 11 volumes long atm. Ad BT is at 2vol fully translated and vol 3 half translated.
__________________
Xaturas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-05-01, 20:04   Link #1123
flack
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Canada, BC
So far the start of this show is quite interesting. Hopefully the closing of this show will not ruin it.
flack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-05-01, 20:23   Link #1124
silvercover
Romance Expert
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
concerning the conversation earlier on the possibility that KYH is just fooling haru...

the real problem isnt that he's short and fat, its the fact that it came this soon. personally, even if haru was good/normal looking and just had a lot of self-depreciation, I would be uneasy with this kind of development.
cause looking at the romance development, they're pretty much in the endgame with it. KYH already admitted that she loves him, they will more or less be an official couple when she wakes up. then what? they're at the peak now, even if they're relationship was hardly developed.

see the problem? with this, they can already be a couple even if they didnt really bond much. just like that.
there's nothing blocking it from happening. no rivals, no overprotective parents, no species boundary, no physical barrier, etc. they are now a couple, before people could get comfortable enough at this possibility.

and the possibility that they wont make a couple this soon? well, they can make her stay in coma for a long time but its just delaying unless we get a rival.
they wont be able to dodge this unless they tarnish one of the two. either haru would feel so unworthy that he rejects her, or at least says he needs to get better, he'd still be similar to ignoring KYH words this ep which would make him appear negative to plenty of fans.
or KYH was just manipulating him at this time but then really falls for him later. this one will still have plenty of fans be angry at her, even if she will be redeemed and falls for him later.

all in all, this one speeds up the romance process, which imo should be developed slowly but steadily(unless your in an harem/ecchi anime, and even then there are some really questionable developments).
dont get me wrong though, this episode was pretty great and would have made me like the pairing... if it was in a later episode so that we can see their relationship grow into this.
silvercover is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-05-01, 21:57   Link #1125
Random Wanderer
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Quote:
or KYH was just manipulating him at this time but then really falls for him later.
I can't believe that to be the case. You don't sacrifice your life for a tool, and it's pretty plain to me that she knew her chances of surviving that impact were not good. However quick it may feel, I believe she was being honest.
Random Wanderer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-05-01, 22:22   Link #1126
DragoZERO
Spoilaphobic
*IT Support
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: USA
Age: 28
Oh yeah. We have a good monomyth here. We're at Crossing the First Threshold now since our hero has decided to take up the mantle and protect his princess. So far, things have been pretty steady with the monomyth, no skipped steps either.
DragoZERO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-05-01, 23:57   Link #1127
noobita
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Quote:
Originally Posted by Random Wanderer View Post
I can't believe that to be the case. You don't sacrifice your life for a tool, and it's pretty plain to me that she knew her chances of surviving that impact were not good. However quick it may feel, I believe she was being honest.
Is that so? I bet that Kuroyukihime will appears once the battle between Haru and Taku is over in a perfect condition and say something like: "Good job, Haru! I guess it is the time for me enter my 2nd phase of plan. I will reveal my true form now. Tremble upon me, fodders!"

Haru: Kuroyukihime, how is your wound?
Kuroyukihime: Huh? Well, don't mind about that small details. It's just a flesh wound.
Haru: But you just got rammed by a car..a freaking car.
Kuroyukihime: As I said, ignore that..Let's focus on real matter. Should we?
Haru: Don't tell me you were staged that accident too?
Kuroyukihime: (damn it, he's sharp)
Kuroyukihime: Haru, you think too much. Let's focus on Accel world matter first. The rest we can discuss on later.
__________________

Last edited by noobita; 2012-05-02 at 00:08.
noobita is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-05-02, 00:06   Link #1128
Random Wanderer
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Quote:
Originally Posted by noobita View Post
Is that so? I bet that Kuroyukihime will appears once the battle between Haru and Taku is over in a perfect condition and say something like: "Good job, Haru! I guess it is the time for me enter my 2nd phase of plan. I will reveal my true form now. Tremble upon me, fodders!"
You bet, you say? How much are you betting on this? I have no objections to cleaning you out, if you're willing to toss money on the table that foolishly.
Random Wanderer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-05-02, 01:02   Link #1129
Anh_Minh
I disagree with you all.
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Quote:
Originally Posted by Haak View Post
So you wouldn't stop the punch then?
Not if it was a boxing match and she chose to climb into the ring, I wouldn't. Maybe if we were some kind of wrestling tag team?

Quote:
That's essentially all Haru has actually done so far and I wouldn't call it backstabbing nor does it mean he can't appeal for his friendship. You seem to be talking about future events which is unrelated right now.
What I'm saying is that I wouldn't feel entitled to calling my friend "traitor" for pursuing his own goals, even if they run contrary to mine It's not about future events. It's about this thread.

As I said earlier, Taku is already a bad guy. But not for targeting Kuroyukihime. And, if they fight, not for fighting Haru either.
Anh_Minh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-05-02, 02:34   Link #1130
Haak
Forever Alone...
 
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: UK
Age: 23
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anh_Minh View Post
Not if it was a boxing match and she chose to climb into the ring, I wouldn't. Maybe if we were some kind of wrestling tag team?
It's hard to consider it akin to a boxing match when taking into account the sheer underhanded tactics used.

Quote:
What I'm saying is that I wouldn't feel entitled to calling my friend "traitor" for pursuing his own goals, even if they run contrary to mine It's not about future events. It's about this thread.

As I said earlier, Taku is already a bad guy. But not for targeting Kuroyukihime. And, if they fight, not for fighting Haru either.
It's not just about pursuing goals that run counter to yours, though. Haru has just found out that Taku spied on Haru's best friend and is about to take advantage of a comatose patient who happens to be his girlfriend. If Taku was pursuing KYH in a reasonably competitive way then it wouldn't be a problem but the way he's gone about it and against someone who Haru cares a lot about, is just plain nasty.
__________________
Haak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-05-02, 03:06   Link #1131
thundrakkon
Fly Away into the Night
*Graphic Designer
 
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: USA
Quote:
Originally Posted by silvercover View Post
I would be uneasy with this kind of development.
cause looking at the romance development, they're pretty much in the endgame with it. KYH already admitted that she loves him, they will more or less be an official couple when she wakes up. then what? they're at the peak now, even if they're relationship was hardly developed.
I do agree with you that the relationship felt rushed, but given the circumstances (car crashing, probably dying, last chance to confess), I understand why it ended up the way it did.

Also, what is refreshing in this anime is that the confession happens early, and now we have the opportunity to see it develop further later on. In too many animes, the end game is the confession. Hence, people are accustomed to that. However, in a real relationship, the confession is just the beginning. There is so much that can be developed from there, and hopefully, this series will be able to tackle that.

As for the ongoing discussion between Taru and Haru, I can only say, like I did before, that one is protecting and one is assaulting. Also, it really does depend on how their "discussion" goes before we can really judge them on their friendship. However, creating a backdoor into Haru's close friend Chiyuri's neural link and "possibly" peaking on her changing, or other things, is enough of a betrayal between the friends.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anh_Minh View Post
Not if it was a boxing match and she chose to climb into the ring, I wouldn't. Maybe if we were some kind of wrestling tag team?
At the moment, she did not choose to climb in the ring. She has been choosing to stay out for the past 2 years. Add to that, she is in a coma recovering for her life, and she could die any moment, per what the doctor says.

If you are still willing to attack a defenseless person battling for her life, then all the power to you. I really don't have anything else to say.
__________________
thundrakkon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-05-02, 06:10   Link #1132
Randrak42
ANEGO Worshiper
 
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: By the vending machine, drinking tea.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Random Wanderer View Post
You bet, you say? How much are you betting on this? I have no objections to cleaning you out, if you're willing to toss money on the table that foolishly.
Ignore him...he got to a point in his denial that he can only be trolling by now.
__________________

Spoiler for Top 10 Harem Protagonists:
Randrak42 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-05-02, 06:25   Link #1133
Flere821
Lurker
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
@noobita:
*snerk* really, betting on a series when you only have the anime as reference? I could make a killing by betting in this one... Accel World is also a LN series like 3 seasons worth of episodes ahead in content compared to the anime right now. You should be careful with series like this

I'm surprised at how people are dead-set in believing KYH is just using Haru. Without using future events not shown thus far, is it so impossible to believe KYH value 'mental speed' more than physical appearance? That distaste for someone being short & fat can't possibly outweigh what she says in her own words, "heartbreak at seeing someone being so fragile" when he has another side that's very talented? It's not like Haru's a total prick undeserving of any girl either despite his issues, he cares about other people.
Really now, is it unbelievable a girl can see past appearances and look at other qualities when it comes to someone else?
Flere821 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-05-02, 06:30   Link #1134
Haak
Forever Alone...
 
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: UK
Age: 23
I think it's more than that. KYH turning out to be a manipulator would put a more ambitious and darker spin on the story and even I can see the appeal of that. Plus there's an element of "so obvious it has to be red herring" and it doesn't help that they don't particularly find Haru likable. But really I don't think such a twist is even remotely likely or desirable given the tone of this series and it would be far too much of a contrast (This is definitely not a cynical story). Me thinks some people have simply been watching one too many Urobuchi Gen stories...
__________________
Haak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-05-02, 06:34   Link #1135
Randrak42
ANEGO Worshiper
 
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: By the vending machine, drinking tea.
Switch Haru's appearance with Taku's and these discussions would never had happen.
__________________

Spoiler for Top 10 Harem Protagonists:
Randrak42 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-05-02, 06:35   Link #1136
Haak
Forever Alone...
 
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: UK
Age: 23
Actually I think it would still happen, just not to such an absurd extent. I remember quite a few who were glad to see Ouma Shu get so fucked up in Guilty Crown.
__________________
Haak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-05-02, 06:52   Link #1137
noobita
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flere821 View Post
@noobita:
*snerk* really, betting on a series when you only have the anime as reference? I could make a killing by betting in this one... Accel World is also a LN series like 3 seasons worth of episodes ahead in content compared to the anime right now. You should be careful with series like this

I'm surprised at how people are dead-set in believing KYH is just using Haru. Without using future events not shown thus far, is it so impossible to believe KYH value 'mental speed' more than physical appearance? That distaste for someone being short & fat can't possibly outweigh what she says in her own words, "heartbreak at seeing someone being so fragile" when he has another side that's very talented? It's not like Haru's a total prick undeserving of any girl either despite his issues, he cares about other people.
Really now, is it unbelievable a girl can see past appearances and look at other qualities when it comes to someone else?
Oh, so people who don't read manga or novel don't have the right to make a prediction of that series? I thought this is the whole point of Anime Discussion > Current Series > License Accel World.

If anything, you are the one shouldn't post at this thread. You are the one who more likely going to destroy the fun of an anime discussion by leaving a hint or anything.

I know that you are proud with your novel knowledge, but there is already a thread in manga section just exclusively for people like you. Please lurk at there. This will do a favor for anime watcher.

There is a reason why mod don't tolerate any spoiler forms in this thread.

Also, whether my speculation is wrong or not, at least I enjoy this series as an anime watcher, and I perfectly fine with it.
__________________
noobita is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-05-02, 07:57   Link #1138
silvercover
Romance Expert
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
@thundrakkon
well, true.
but they still barely know each other, so confessing "I love you" is a stretch, even with the hints of affection. they didnt exactly have plenty of special moments to appeal with the fans for the pair is the reason its not accepted so.
maybe if she was a childhood friend... *looks at OP song* ok perhaps its not too far-fetched...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Haak View Post
I think it's more than that. KYH turning out to be a manipulator would put a more ambitious and darker spin on the story and even I can see the appeal of that. Plus there's an element of "so obvious it has to be red herring" and it doesn't help that they don't particularly find Haru likable. But really I don't think such a twist is even remotely likely or desirable given the tone of this series and it would be far too much of a contrast (This is definitely not a cynical story). Me thinks some people have simply been watching one too many Urobuchi Gen stories...
mostly this.
having KYH be a manipulative character brings a certain kind of appeal. mind you, she can still be considered "good" though if it were implemented, but would severely drop her popularity for fooling a guy like haru(even if she might later really fall for him).
and she hasnt exactly gotten enough limelight to be clear of the suspicion. just like how taku was so easily suspected by plenty of people here, KYH can be easily a suspect as well for we're still in ep 4.

though im not in the "hates haru's appearance" bandwagon(but I still think they overdid it by making him the ONLY one with that kind of appearance so far. and giving him a pig avatar when most guys in his situation would wear something that's completely different from their real selves).

Quote:
Originally Posted by Randrak42 View Post
Switch Haru's appearance with Taku's and these discussions would never had happen.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Haak View Post
Actually I think it would still happen, just not to such an absurd extent. I remember quite a few who were glad to see Ouma Shu get so fucked up in Guilty Crown.
yes, even if haru looked like taku I wouldnt just trust this development so early. maybe if it was in a later episode I would. for now, im uncertain.
silvercover is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-05-02, 08:24   Link #1139
Random Wanderer
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
How people can still distrust her when she took what she knew was likely to be a fatal hit from a car in order to save Haru boggles my mind.

Quote:
but they still barely know each other, so confessing "I love you" is a stretch, even with the hints of affection.
It seems to me that each of them has been watching each other for a while from a distance before Hime actually took the step of breaking his high score to provoke him to talk to her. Thus they aren't as completely new to each other as it might otherwise appear. You could still argue that her confession came too soon, but frankly I doubt she would have made it at this point if two things hadn't happened. First: Haru provoked her, not just questioning her motives but showing that he really believed that she was manipulating him by pretending interest. That shook her badly. Second: that bully's attempt to murder them. Kuroyukihime believed she was about to die. She didn't fully understand what she was feeling for Haru, and she said that herself; that she'd never felt anything like this before; but she knew this was her last chance to say anything to him. To explain anything to him. To try to heal the sudden rift that had formed between them. She siezed the moment when she was about to die to not leave at least this one thing unfinished. Had the crash not happened she would likely not have confessed to him so soon, but it did, and suddenly that moment in the accelerated world became, as far as she knew, her last moment to do anything at all.

I believe it.
Random Wanderer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-05-02, 08:31   Link #1140
Randrak42
ANEGO Worshiper
 
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: By the vending machine, drinking tea.
I will say this...the only thing that actually boggles my mind is how people still suspect that she set up the car accident. I understand every other point of view on most topics here...but that she set it up is one theory who's existence I cannot understand.
__________________

Spoiler for Top 10 Harem Protagonists:
Randrak42 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
action, cyberpunk, harem, sci-fi, shounen

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:43.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
We use Silk.