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View Poll Results: Fate/Zero - Episode 2 Rating
Perfect 10 68 43.04%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 66 41.77%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 21 13.29%
7 out of 10 : Good 2 1.27%
6 out of 10 : Average 1 0.63%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 0 0%
4 out of 10 : Poor 0 0%
3 out of 10 : Bad 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
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Old 2011-10-09, 22:08   Link #141
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The endings can be a little spoilerish, but only if you are familiar with all of those legends and I don't think the average person is.

And to be honest, the only servants whose identity I ever cared about was F/SN Rider (whose identity I suspected from the beginning of Fate, haha) and Saber's. When I found out everyone else's, it was just a general "That's cool" reaction.
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Old 2011-10-09, 22:37   Link #142
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If you didn't already know, it's not yet spoilerish. You wouldn't even know who's Berserker or Lancer for instance.

The ED images are iconic but not so much as to bring instant recognition like King Arthur and the sword in the stone for instance
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Old 2011-10-09, 22:37   Link #143
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You certainly would. Fate/Stay Night is the true introduction to the "Fateverse" and has a lot more world-building than Fate/Zero. This prequel is clearly one of those that's aimed at people who've already experienced what proceeds it chronologically. There are a lot of moments that are almost "winks" to people who've gone through F/SN. Now obviously you don't absolutely need to have experienced it in order to follow the story of Zero, but having done so can only increase your enjoyment and understanding of the latter in my opinion.

Either way, if you do wish to experience the F/SN, I'd recommend going with reading/playing it, aka the Visual Novel, rather than watching the anime, which was a rather crummy adaptation. Though that might be a little too time consuming for you, I suppose.
I think anyone who has time for anime, also has time to play a VN.
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Old 2011-10-09, 22:41   Link #144
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Play/watch Stay Night first. It may be a pile of poo (hey, opinions), but that's exactly why you want to experience it first. After the awesomeness of Zero, it'll just make Stay Night that much harder to digest.
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Old 2011-10-09, 22:45   Link #145
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Play/watch Stay Night first. It may be a pile of poo (hey, opinions), but that's exactly why you want to experience it first. After the awesomeness of Zero, it'll just make Stay Night that much harder to digest.
This is inaccurate =P Fate is a bit bland but Unlimited Blade Works is amazing while the final day of Heaven's Feel is mindblowing (even the Dead Ends).

Zero matches and even exceeds UBW at times but the sheer hardcore of the finale of HF is beyond even the two biggest highlights of Zero.



With that said, Zero has far fewer lowpoints...
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Old 2011-10-09, 23:15   Link #146
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Question for those who read the novel... is knowing berserker true identity a big spoiler?
Well its a matter of how you enjoy what you watch. You know already for what you said that berserker identity is something "special" regarding the story so if you don't want to spoil that moment about the story its better not to know in advance.
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However because of my lack of previous experience with the Fate franchise I have found some things about it really confusing, like some of the terms that have been used (prana? magic circuit? familiar?) and the actual requirements for summoning a servant (I didn't see Ryuunosuke using any relic such as Excalibur's sheath or skin of the first snake), but hopefully I will come to understand them as I watch more episodes.

I also found this on another forum earlier today:
Spoiler for picture:
NOTICE: the following information is not going to be explained in the novel so this IS NOT SPOILER its just an explanation of terms like prana, just to help people not used to such terms.

Spoiler for information:


The picture is fake, its from the persona 4 booklet. XD
Spoiler for image from persona 4:

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Old 2011-10-09, 23:25   Link #147
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Also, didn't Alexander die at like 30 something. he shouldn't be that old looking in the first place.
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Old 2011-10-09, 23:30   Link #148
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Also, didn't Alexander die at like 30 something. he shouldn't be that old looking in the first place.
He didn't even looked that old in this for me.
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Old 2011-10-09, 23:30   Link #149
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Also, didn't Alexander die at like 30 something. he shouldn't be that old looking in the first place.
well... in the ancient world, your appearance ages quickly and its probably common to see a 25-35 year old guy get all manly with some beard. but for him to be THIS manly.... is quite something.
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Old 2011-10-09, 23:31   Link #150
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Fate series has always used some umm... very liberal depictions of its heroic figures.

Legends tend to exaggerate these things.
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Old 2011-10-10, 00:07   Link #151
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Also, didn't Alexander die at like 30 something. he shouldn't be that old looking in the first place.
Not implausible. As the King of Conquerors, he would've participated in many trainings/skirmishes/battles. These likely made his male hormonal levels (i.e., testosterone) high most of the time, which possibly contributed to his aged (but manly!) appearance since beard growth is affected by hormones.

And was shaver already invented during his era?

P/S: Now, why did I try to explain biology for a fictitious setting?
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Old 2011-10-10, 00:35   Link #152
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well... in the ancient world, your appearance ages quickly and its probably common to see a 25-35 year old guy get all manly with some beard. but for him to be THIS manly.... is quite something.


Our awesome takeuchi said that the first draw of alexander was with out beard a little example of it is in the scan I took of my Fate/Zero character sketches book.

He quickly decided he should have beard.

Something similar happened with bluebeard, a normal set up for his eyes wasn't enough and the one with a crazier eyes was made.

Btw, sorry about the yellowish color but my sketch book is a sister with coffee or tea (I don't remember anymore) survivor so... =P

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Old 2011-10-10, 00:47   Link #153
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Now I know why I hated the old ugly guy. Not cause he was ugly.
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Old 2011-10-10, 04:18   Link #154
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Fate series has always used some umm... very liberal depictions of its heroic figures.

Legends tend to exaggerate these things.
Just look at King Arthur
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Old 2011-10-10, 06:12   Link #155
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I watched F/SN but never played the game. After rewatching the ED for a few times, I dont see any spoilers which people keep mentioning so I guess it's only spoiler when u have played the game.
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Old 2011-10-10, 06:59   Link #156
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I watched F/SN but never played the game. After rewatching the ED for a few times, I dont see any spoilers which people keep mentioning so I guess it's only spoiler when u have played the game.
It's not a spoiler if you've played the game. It's only a spoiler if you have an insane knowledge in ancient legends. It's just that someone was posting the the images of the actual legends in comparison to to what we saw in the ED. That counts as a hint.
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Old 2011-10-10, 10:59   Link #157
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Just look at King Arthur
Yeah, it was quite possible that King Arthur was some obscure Celtic warlord. Siegfried's legend had likely used Arminius as basis, notably the bit with Fafnir (where the Roman Legions had become the dragon).
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Old 2011-10-10, 11:30   Link #158
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And was shaver already invented during his era?
Yes. Not only that, but Alexander is renown as the one who made shaving popular. His soldiers were forbidden to grow beards.

Either Takeuchi or whoever it was who decided to give him a beard didn't know about it, or he just didn't care.

Anyway, if Arthur can have boobs and a vagina, I guess it's not too shocking to give a beard to Alexander.
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Old 2011-10-10, 11:33   Link #159
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Gilles de Rais is scary... omg.... so does his master....

I like how Alexander the Great still retain his arrogance in modern era... lol

just like I thought, Einzbern family is the most normal Holy Grail's competitor... Illya is cute... hahaha... they're my favourite

and last, Gilgamesh is awesome as always...

10/10... every episode is very perfect... they are really well-prepared when making this anime

I hope Fate Stay Night can use this kind of ending song.... with this, I can find some reference about the servants
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Old 2011-10-10, 11:36   Link #160
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Yes. Not only that, but Alexander is renown as the one who made shaving popular. His soldiers were forbidden to grow beards.

Either Takeuchi or whoever it was who decided to give him a beard didn't know about it, or he just didn't care.
There's an even more shocking possibility: Urobuchi Gen has a sense of irony.
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