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Old 2011-10-12, 06:55   Link #21
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Well shit. Didn't see that coming.

I really hope Kishimoto can deliver on Tobi's real identity because this just hyped it up even more.
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Old 2011-10-12, 06:58   Link #22
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Rush rush rush.... We get useless drawn out chapters for weeks and now all of a sudden Kishi just goes nuclear and... and.
Damn.
Nice chapter though, but I could have done with more secondary character development during the zombie fights but this can still happen now that Naruto is running dry.

"This isn't Rinne-Tensei, this is Edo-tensei" -

Haven't seen that line though, maybe fake?
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Old 2011-10-12, 06:58   Link #23
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It's probably Madara's younger brother.
Or who knows, maybe it IS Obito after all!
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Old 2011-10-12, 07:07   Link #24
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I knew it!!!! Hahahaha!!!!

Tobi isnt madara after al ahahahahaha!!!!

I knew it all along!!! Hahaha
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Old 2011-10-12, 07:07   Link #25
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It's probably Madara's younger brother.
Or who knows, maybe it IS Obito after all!
I knew it XD its obito's body but madara's mind or some shit XD
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Old 2011-10-12, 07:13   Link #26
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this isnt surprising at all, since it really is obvious that tobi isnt really madara at all!!!
Tobi is a liar, everything about him is all a lie
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Old 2011-10-12, 07:13   Link #27
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Well, Tobi did mention the he was planning to use Nagato's phoenix down for his own purposes, and when Madara came out of the coffin, he did seem like he was expecting to be resurrected by Nagato, so it's either Tobi is some Madara fanboy, or some part of Madara in a Zetsu body, thus making him a shell, and bringing back the rest of him would in turn make him complete again, but since he was brought back the wrong way, it looks like Tobi's plans are really skrewed over.
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Old 2011-10-12, 07:14   Link #28
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Ha! Looks like Obito theories will start again
I knew that there was something fishy about Tobi, otherwise what's the point of hiding his face all this time after stating his name?

Whoever is Tobi, he is very knoeledgable about Madara... maybe it really is some kond of mind transfer
Whoever Tobi is it should be someone we already know.
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Old 2011-10-12, 07:15   Link #29
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It could still be Madara behind the mask. probably yin or yang part of him. That would explain how he knew about Nagato and expected to be resurrected by him.
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Old 2011-10-12, 07:18   Link #30
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?

Whoever Tobi is it should be someone we already know.
It should be someone we know!!!

since it would be useless to hide his face if we didnt know him!!!
Or its body could really be Obito!!!!
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Old 2011-10-12, 07:21   Link #31
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"This isn't Rinne-Tensei, this is Edo-tensei" -

Haven't seen that line though, maybe fake?
I know, and it bothers me. On another forum, somebody said that in the chapter you prly read at the same place I did, that particular line about Madara commenting on the Edo-tensei that rezzed him was "mistranslated" - however that person then went offline without giving the specifics :facepalm: - I'am currently trying to find a viable translation /clarification on this - dunno if Rinne Tensei was mentioned directly, but it still would be important to know if Madara is unhappy /surprised he got "edo" tenseid.... which might indirectly imply he was expecting the Rinne Tensei instead? if somebody here can understand the langauge well and has a raw at hand plz address that question. thank you.
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Old 2011-10-12, 07:25   Link #32
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remember what kabuto said in chapter 490 when he summoned the 6th coffin??

"Dont worry, I wont tell anyone about this"
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Old 2011-10-12, 07:27   Link #33
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It wouldn't be the first time a mistake was made in translation. It could be similar to one 'You madman'.
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Old 2011-10-12, 07:30   Link #34
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What I dont understand in this chapter is,

It seems Madara knows who Nagato is...
huh???

he said "It would appear that little brat Nagato managed to grow"
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Old 2011-10-12, 07:36   Link #35
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It seems Madara knows who Nagato is...
huh???

he said "It would appear that little brat Nagato managed to grow"
This proves that Tobi is a part of Madara.
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Old 2011-10-12, 07:39   Link #36
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Seems like Madara had been expecting to be revived by Nagato.

His surprise that he was brought back by Edo Tensei.

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Old 2011-10-12, 07:48   Link #37
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My theory is that, before Madara dies... he sent a message for the future that Nagato will be born, and he must be resurrected by Nagato
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This proves that Tobi is a part of Madara.
not neccessarily. for the time being it only makes it highly likely that Madara did survive VotE Battle with Harashima and lived on long enough to have known Nagato and prly also handing over the Rinnegan personally. If Tobi and Edo_Madara are two sides of one coin, than Edo-Madara knowing nagato implies the split into Tobi/dead soul edo Madara happend WAY AFTER VotE - however, it might just as well turn out that Tobi is indeed some sort of impostor (possibly somebody Madara relied on after taking heavy damage in VotE battle?) atm I consider it likely, but am as of yet not convinced completely that Tovi is indeed some weirdo second half of Madara...
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Old 2011-10-12, 07:58   Link #39
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Stupid deviantart shit in the chapter I hadn't read the final page.

Anyway....hmmmmm
So this edo-Madara knows Nagato and refers to him as a brat, meaning this edo-Madara probably gave Nagato the eyes, and the Tobi-Madara is some sort of Madara essence with all his thoughts and stuff but without the powers and being actually him (like a crappy clone)... Or maybe Tobi-Madara has yet to fully grow. I remember Zetsu calling Tobi a good boy and stuff....
Weird, but interesting.

Btw Haegar it's edo-Madara who assumes it is Nagato who revived him and it's Muu who mentions out loud that this is edo tensei. Which in turn surprises edo-Madara
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Old 2011-10-12, 08:07   Link #40
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not neccessarily. for the time being it only makes it highly likely that Madara did survive VotE Battle with Harashima and lived on long enough to have known Nagato and prly also handing over the Rinnegan personally. If Tobi and Edo_Madara are two sides of one coin, than Edo-Madara knowing nagato implies the split into Tobi/dead soul edo Madara happend WAY AFTER VotE - however, it might just as well turn out that Tobi is indeed some sort of impostor (possibly somebody Madara relied on after taking heavy damage in VotE battle?) atm I consider it likely, but am as of yet not convinced completely that Tovi is indeed some weirdo second half of Madara...
But there is also Tobi being angry at Nagato for doing the resurrection technique on Konoha instead of him.
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