Gundam AGE Mecha, Weapons, and Technology

[casval cehack]

Originally Posted by gordol

AGE-2 WEAR B??

SNIP

A lot of suits can fitted in this big blockly profile, but this one doesn't even match the protrusion on the knees (like the Girage's).

[bio9205]

Originally Posted by SonicSP

Personally I dislike the G-Hopper design. It's the only G-Fighter design I dislike. I like the G-Ceptor, G-Viper and G-Strider a lot more. I still like the Sigmasis Cannons though.

Well, considering the blockiness of the transformed forms of all AGE-3 variants, sleekness has been thrown out of the window for me. The cannons really make it look menacing! The AGE-3 Fortress is definitely my favourite Gundam from AGE.

Anyway, I think Sigmasis sounds awesome. DODS sounded stupid till we found out it was an acronym for something, but I like Sigmasis better.

[SonicSP]

Originally Posted by bio9205

Well, considering the blockiness of the transformed forms of all AGE-3 variants, sleekness has been thrown out of the window for me. The cannons really make it look menacing! The AGE-3 Fortress is definitely my favourite Gundam from AGE.

Anyway, I think Sigmasis sounds awesome. DODS sounded stupid till we found out it was an acronym for something, but I like Sigmasis better.

That's true, but I personally find the blockiness of the G-Ceptor and G-Viper more appealing for some reason.

I wonder whether there's away for the G Fighters to actually stay in their teansfomable forms with the main Core Fighter there. It would be a bummer if they can only do so when its not there.

[GN0010 Nosferatu]

Heh, I guess the Fortress Mode is purple after all.

[SonicSP]

Glad they didn't decide to keep the red colors scheme for Fortress. That would have been ugly.

[Rising Dragon]

What... red color scheme for Fortress?

[GN0010 Nosferatu]

Originally Posted by SonicSP

Glad they didn't decide to keep the red colors scheme for Fortress. That would have been ugly.

I don't recall the Fortress Mode ever having been shown with red colors.

[SonicSP]

Spoiler for Red Fortress:

This ad awhile back. This is also the first one that actually reveals the name Fortress for the wear.

[Rising Dragon]

Looks more like a magenta color or so. Like a discoloration.

[kakakka]

It's funny, that card in the Fortress wear pic (on the other page) shows that picture with red coloured wear.

http://i.imgur.com/3O0kO.png

[GN0010 Nosferatu]

Originally Posted by kakakka

It's funny, that card in the Fortress wear pic (on the other page) shows that picture with red coloured wear.

http://i.imgur.com/3O0kO.png

Hm, that's a bit peculiar.

[SonicSP]

Originally Posted by kakakka

It's funny, that card in the Fortress wear pic (on the other page) shows that picture with red coloured wear.

http://i.imgur.com/3O0kO.png

Yeah, I didn't noticed that either. Looks like they kept the old color there.

[GN0010 Nosferatu]

So me and another AS member (Kuroi Hadou) were talking about what type of particles the DODS guns could be using. The start of figuring it out was using the Vagan's electromagnetic armor. What type of particles are easily deflected by an EM field? One thing Kuroi narrowed down is that the particles are charged, but we still don't know what type of particles they are specifically. Any thoughts?

[casval cehack]

Originally Posted by GN0010 Nosferatu

So me and another AS member (Kuroi Hadou) were talking about what type of particles the DODS guns could be using. The start of figuring it out was using the Vagan's electromagnetic armor. What type of particles are easily deflected by an EM field? One thing Kuroi narrowed down is that the particles are charged, but we still don't know what type of particles they are specifically. Any thoughts?

First, where did the Vegan's electromagnectic armor info came from?

[GN0010 Nosferatu]

Gundam Wiki. Don't know where it come from as the source. But given what we have seen in the show, I'd wager it's accurate.

Electromagnetic Armor- The Vagan's defensive armor system. Electromagnetic Armor are used to emit an energy field to block beam weapons even capable block/nullify beams of DODS weapons easily. It were first used by ovv-a Baqto and later, it were used by xvm-gz Defurse and ovm-e Dorado in the series as well. The system was quickly developed as a counter to the appearance of the DODS Rifle.

[SonicSP]

Originally Posted by GN0010 Nosferatu

So me and another AS member (Kuroi Hadou) were talking about what type of particles the DODS guns could be using. The start of figuring it out was using the Vagan's electromagnetic armor. What type of particles are easily deflected by an EM field? One thing Kuroi narrowed down is that the particles are charged, but we still don't know what type of particles they are specifically. Any thoughts?

Huh, I haven't seen KH post around here in awhile. Wish I had any ideas on what particles though. But its possible that the particle type used in DODS isnt different from other EF beam weapons and that the EM Armor is meant to counteract the DODS "spinning drill" effect that makes it more powerful.

Alternatively, its also possible that the EM Armor is a pretty good defence mechanism with a higher power rating, meant to counter the higher power ratings of DODS weapons. Power against power so to speak rather than a special nulling of an effect. Kinda like how AGE System developing new stronger raw technology to solve problems.

Originally Posted by GN0010 Nosferatu

Gundam Wiki. Don't know where it come from as the source. But given what we have seen in the show, I'd wager it's accurate.

As the citation in the References on the Advance Generation Technology article says, its sourced from the MG AGE-1 Titus manual. I placed the info and citation myself.

The MG says Vagans seems to have a method to reacting to advanced made by the EF, which includes the DODS Rifles (by making the EM Armor) as well as Flit's awakening as an X-Rounder (by having more X-Rounder use machines) but says that how they are doing this is not known.

Their effectiveness on blocking DODS beams are just us stating what has appeared on screen so far though, but it also sort of correlates with the info that the EM Armor is made to help counter DODS weapons.

[GN0010 Nosferatu]

Also going by the show, the EM armor doesn't seem to do much good against stronger level DODS weapons. Like the Adele's. G-Bouncer's, and AGE2's.

[Kuroi Hadou]

Originally Posted by SonicSP

Huh, I haven't seen KH post around here in awhile.

I've posted elsewhere. It just hasn't been in the Gundam threads.

Alternatively, its also possible that the EM Armor is a pretty good defence mechanism with a higher power rating, meant to counter the higher power ratings of DODS weapons. Power against power so to speak rather than a special nulling of an effect. Kinda like how AGE System developing new stronger raw technology to solve problems.

I'm skeptical of the power rating idea simply because it's not supposed to work that way. Kind of like how sound weapons just won't work in a vacuum no matter how much juice you put into it.

[SonicSP]

Originally Posted by GN0010 Nosferatu

Also going by the show, the EM armor doesn't seem to do much good against stronger level DODS weapons. Like the Adele's. G-Bouncer's, and AGE2's.

I think that depends on the EM Armor power rating as well, different mechs will likely have different power ratings. Do you remember any specific examples on those beams penetrating EM Armor? Because I don't recall any, but I'm not every attentive so I probably missed them . Still I guess it depends on the power rating of the Armor and the DODS weapon in question, for example recalling one example in episode 25, the second female's Zedas M blocked the G-Bouncer's DODS Rifles once when it was indeed deployed.

Another one from episode 25 is this pic I'm borrowing for example, shows Khronos blocking the Diva's direct shot:

Spoiler for EM Armor:

I have to say that EM Armor's biggest weakness likely got to be coverage though. I think the basic Dorado's arm guards probably going to have limited use, even if some mechs like the Defurce and Khronos can deploy them at more strategic places and or wider areas.

Originally Posted by Kuroi Hadou

I've posted elsewhere. It just hasn't been in the Gundam threads.



I'm skeptical of the power rating idea simply because it's not supposed to work that way. Kind of like how sound weapons just won't work in a vacuum no matter how much juice you put into it.

I'm pretty sure you do, that why I said here. Nice to see you again though, its been awhile.

I do think the sound weapons thing is a totally different idea and maginitude though, since sound just can't travel in a vacuum. Still, EM Armor definitely is not a Anti-DODS only defence mechanism, since we have seen the EM Armor block decently powerful non DODS shots as well. The pic I cross posted above for example, shows it blocking a beam shot from the Diva and the beam doesn't have the DODS trademark spiral effect on it.

Unless of course its tailored to counteract beam weapons in general, making it more of an anti beam weapon than anything. This would put what Nos said earlier in a beam particle context rather than just DODS beam particles I guess. In this way, the creation of the EM Armor was mainly as a higher form of defence because traditional Vagan physical armor won't do it as good anymore.

Man, its been awhile since we had these type of discussions. We do it a lot in the 00 days.

[GN0010 Nosferatu]

Originally Posted by SonicSP

I think that depends on the EM Armor power rating as well, different mechs will likely have different power ratings. Do you remember any specific examples on those beams penetrating EM Armor? Because I don't recall any, but I'm not every attentive so I probably missed them . Still I guess it depends on the power rating of the Armor and the DODS weapon in question, for example recalling one example in episode 25, the second female's Zedas M blocked the G-Bouncer's DODS Rifles once when it was indeed deployed.

I don't have any screen caps, but I do know where to pick examples. In the first episode of the second generation for instance, the Dorados were able to shrug off the Genoace IIs beams. But there are other scenes where we've seen Max and Arisa scoring kills in their Adele's. Same goes with the G-Bouncer.