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Old 2012-02-16, 09:49   Link #421
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As for other ships...

Hidenori/Lit Girl - hilarious!
Tadakuni/Nako - someone even more a 'straight man' than Tadakuni? lols
Ringo/Student Council Prez - S&M coupling XD
Coincidentally, those are also the ships that naturally comes to me after watching the episodes.
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Old 2012-02-17, 09:56   Link #422
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There are too many girls in this series. Many of the skits revolve around girls as well. At this rate they're just confirming that HS boys are boring and HS girls are interesting.
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Old 2012-02-17, 10:14   Link #423
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There are too many girls in this series. Many of the skits revolve around girls as well. At this rate they're just confirming that HS boys are boring and HS girls are interesting.
I don't see your logic, almost all of the punchlines have been delivered supremely by the boys, who cares if girls are involved?

(Well I do since it's amusing how they're so against the moe-traditions that we've come to know, but it still doesn't change anything...)

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Old 2012-02-17, 10:28   Link #424
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I don't see your logic, almost all of the punchlines have been delivered supremely by the boys, who cares if girls are involved?

(Well I do since it's assuming how they're so against the moe-traditions that we've come to know, but it still doesn't change anything...)
I agree, it wouldn't be the same if the boys weren't there with their awesome comebacks.
And I think we have a plethora of interesting HS boys like Karasawa, Hidenori, Yoshitake, School Council Prez, Saviour... etc. They're amusing to watch even without the girls around imo.
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Old 2012-02-17, 10:41   Link #425
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Well I dropped this after watching the first sketch because I didn't think it was that funny but I picked it up again and I'm glad I did because it's actually freaking hilarious. I don't mind girls being involved now but any more emasculation scenes like Habara and his sister's friends and I might. But honestly it's a welcome change to see girls not always get away with such behaviour.
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Old 2012-02-17, 10:53   Link #426
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Minami-ke S1 was at its best when exploring the dysfunctions of both males and females.

What I mean by bringing Minami-ke is that I don't mind a little focus outside the main trio. And to me the message is not "Boys are less interesting than girls." It is more, "One enhance/spice up the other." Ringo-chan would not be as interesting without the Student Council Prez trolling her, Litterature Girl would not be the same without a boy, and we would not have gotten that kind of "depth" (right word?) from Habara without Toshiyuki.
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Old 2012-02-17, 13:30   Link #427
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What was Gundam AGE's Romary Stone doing in this episodes first segment and when did she get to be so angry and bitter.

Also this show seems to be mocking other shows like it again with the completely worthless censors of copyrighted games. I especially liked The Legend ** Kage, where they censor the most common word in the title only.
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Old 2012-02-17, 15:11   Link #428
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You know ... even though ep 6 was not as funny in the sense in the same "method/manner of presentation" as previous eps, I must admit that near the end of the ep when the girl with the missing dog walked into the student council room I was laughing heartily.

7.5/10 vote from me for ep 6.
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Old 2012-02-17, 17:04   Link #429
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You know ... even though ep 6 was not as funny in the sense in the same "method/manner of presentation" as previous eps, I must admit that near the end of the ep when the girl with the missing dog walked into the student council room I was laughing heartily.

7.5/10 vote from me for ep 6.
I liked when the Student Counsel member went "why are you laughing so loudly" I was thinking the same thing. What was up with her, even her teeth became all jagged. Also loved her reaction when they asked for money. I wonder if her brother was that one guy in the summer vacation episode that just had the same blank expression throughout the whole skit.


Liked how the money thing backfired on them in the screen transition wipe. Now instead of people hearing about the student counsel being a Help/Service center, they confirmed it by charging money for such services.
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Old 2012-02-17, 17:18   Link #430
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For me what matters is that you can have a successful "high school girl" anime without featuring boys in any significant capacity (Azumanga, Lucky Star, etc) but then the equivalent "high school boys" anime consists largely of boys reacting to girls as neighbors, rivals, siblings, etc. Basically the message is that girls can stand on their own, but boys need to be "enhanced," as someone put it.

I'm not saying it's not funny sometimes or interesting sometimes, but I wanted to watch a show about high school boys, not boys and girls.
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Old 2012-02-17, 17:41   Link #431
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Well, the first few episodes (which consisted largely of the chapters that were pre-released) pretty much was just the boys. Whether this is a general trend in the manga and the anime is just following along I don't know, but there's no denying there's been a major shift in focus away from the guys generally and the main trio specifically.

I'm very torn - I find the last few eps almost as funny as the first few - albeit in a different way - but I also think there's an implication that you can't have a good school slice-of-life about guys without either giving the girls most of the punchlines (Danshi Koukousei) or making the guys gender-neutral (KtB - sorry, Creb). And if anything, the first few eps of this show proved that isn't the case - although one needed only look a few years back to find other examples proving it.

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Old 2012-02-17, 18:05   Link #432
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For me what matters is that you can have a successful "high school girl" anime without featuring boys in any significant capacity (Azumanga, Lucky Star, etc) but then the equivalent "high school boys" anime consists largely of boys reacting to girls as neighbors, rivals, siblings, etc. Basically the message is that girls can stand on their own, but boys need to be "enhanced," as someone put it.

I'm not saying it's not funny sometimes or interesting sometimes, but I wanted to watch a show about high school boys, not boys and girls.

That's the very wrong way to look at it. If you take out the girls, you're just saying that you're afraid that the girls would take over the popularity and attention from the guys. Giving up without even trying.

But by creating an environment with both of them and show them side by side, you have an opportunity to prove that boys can be equal or more interesting to the girls, which is what this show does. In other words, rising to the challenge.
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Old 2012-02-17, 19:37   Link #433
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That's the very wrong way to look at it. If you take out the girls, you're just saying that you're afraid that the girls would take over the popularity and attention from the guys. Giving up without even trying.

But by creating an environment with both of them and show them side by side, you have an opportunity to prove that boys can be equal or more interesting to the girls, which is what this show does. In other words, rising to the challenge.
So why don't girls slice-of-life shows do that, then? Sounds like unilateral disarmament to me.
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Old 2012-02-17, 19:56   Link #434
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So why don't girls slice-of-life shows do that, then? Sounds like unilateral disarmament to me.
when its mainly girls and you introduce guys to the mix, too much sexual tension. and too easily it can turn into melodramatic romance jokes and plotlines

when its mainly guys and you introduce girls, its loladolescence and youth of men.

I could agree they been too much girl screentime though. The first 3-4 episodes were great with focusing mainly on guys and the girls were sprinkled in as spice. Now it seems the girls has more screentime and the guys are just the background.

Its the girls that are initiating the skits now more often, instead of vice versa.
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Old 2012-02-17, 20:02   Link #435
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So why don't girls slice-of-life shows do that, then? Sounds like unilateral disarmament to me.
Lol, because fans of girls slice-of-life shows are intolerant paranoids Just the slightest hint of a non-family male presence would sent them into an indignant rage and hence wouldn't be good for it's reputation


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I could agree they been too much girl screentime though. The first 3-4 episodes were great with focusing mainly on guys and the girls were sprinkled in as spice. Now it seems the girls has more screentime and the guys are just the background.

Its the girls that are initiating the skits now more often, instead of vice versa.
Again, how is this an issue? The male characters are still every bit as amusing as they were from before and I can bet nobody here can point out a girl that had stolen their thunder.
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Old 2012-02-17, 22:44   Link #436
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Now I noticed something:

This episode's Funky started with Yanagin denied wearing glasses "to fit in character stereotypes"... But she never wore glasses for a single second in today's skit. Why is she lying over this?
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Old 2012-02-18, 03:48   Link #437
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That's the very wrong way to look at it. If you take out the girls, you're just saying that you're afraid that the girls would take over the popularity and attention from the guys. Giving up without even trying.

But by creating an environment with both of them and show them side by side, you have an opportunity to prove that boys can be equal or more interesting to the girls, which is what this show does. In other words, rising to the challenge.
To quote Karasawa: "It's summer vacation and we're having a sausage fest. This is the worst." (I forgot the exact line, though)

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This episode's Funky started with Yanagin denied wearing glasses "to fit in character stereotypes"... But she never wore glasses for a single second in today's skit. Why is she lying over this?
It's apparently what you use the word "irony" from the dictionary for nowadays... uh?
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Old 2012-02-18, 06:48   Link #438
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think the fact that there's more screentime for the girls is that all those boys are just too buddy-buddy with each other, that there's no external conflict for something to happen. The girls represent something that's different and foreign, and dangerous at the same time.

in some way i see it as a subtle jab at the boy's attitude/mentality toward the opposite sex, and sometimes it's more interesting if the skits involving some sort of conflict. Who knows, maybe that's just the flavour of the month from the mangaka and it will revert back soon enough.
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Old 2012-02-18, 09:39   Link #439
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Good lord, ep6 was pretty funny.
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Old 2012-02-18, 09:46   Link #440
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think the fact that there's more screentime for the girls is that all those boys are just too buddy-buddy with each other, that there's no external conflict for something to happen. The girls represent something that's different and foreign, and dangerous at the same time.

in some way i see it as a subtle jab at the boy's attitude/mentality toward the opposite sex, and sometimes it's more interesting if the skits involving some sort of conflict. Who knows, maybe that's just the flavour of the month from the mangaka and it will revert back soon enough.
Yep, I agree with this explanation the most.

Though to be honest, I don't care if the skits involve girls or not. The main thing for me is that it better be funny
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