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Old 2012-08-14, 21:56   Link #1301
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^ Oh yeah. I guess I only remember the scene where they laugh together :P
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Old 2012-08-14, 22:33   Link #1302
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If you can’t accept that, then take my previous example:
For example: If a person walks out after seeing the first part of Wolverine and then gives conclusion “the movie is great coz there are no plot holes and consistently smart!”, will that be valid?)
Well, no - because I don't think there's any part of "Wolverine" about which that's true.
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Old 2012-08-14, 22:54   Link #1303
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Notwithstanding the arrival of the "Inaba Arc," and tensions between Inaba and Taichi, I think the sixth episode revealed a major insight into Iori, especially foreshadowing the unresolved problems concerning Iori's identity. I'm talking about the Taichi/Iori phone scene when Iori, after hanging up, tells herself to not screw this one up. She's obviously referring to her previous screw up in episode two when she nonchalantly explains to Yui that her parents are divorced and to club any intruders if any come when she's alone. Yui freaks out at her explanation.

We know that Iori has always been switching personalities to accomodate others around her. Starting with her multiple step-fathers, she continues to do so with the group and each of them individually. This is especially apparant with Taichi when she becomes very sober and philosophical (which she supposedly feels comfortable with) as opposed to her usual jubilation when surrounded by all four of them. During Yui's freak-out scene in episode two, Iori addresses Yui's concern with a personality she uses to communicate with all four of them instead of a more Yui-centric personality. As a result, Iori screws up.

I think this is what Iori is referring to when she doesn't want to screw up with Taichi. Having developed a Taichi-centric personality, she doesn't want to shake up what she thinks Taichi loves about her by accidentally introducing another personality during their conversations. The problem I see is that Taichi previously comments that Iori seems different around him, so I think that means Taichi likes the group-centric Iori better than Taichi-centric Iori. My speculation about Taichi might be unwarranted, but Iori definitely hasn't made much progress concerning her identity issues even with Taichi's intervention and "her" suicide.
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Old 2012-08-15, 00:05   Link #1304
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Well, no - because I don't think there's any part of "Wolverine" about which that's true.
Well, if you read most of the critics’ reviews of Wolverine, you’ll get the idea (more than this will be off-topic). If not, then take another example I already mentioned like Gundam SEED Destiny. There, you have an MC whose character development is good at the beginning only to fell short during the second half of the series. The opposite can also happen to Taichi from this series.
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Old 2012-08-15, 00:18   Link #1305
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Oh god, Gundam Seed Destiny. Why did you have to remind me of that?
I dare say it's much easier to go from good to bad, than from bad to good.
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Old 2012-08-15, 03:52   Link #1306
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Can I claim that as my new avatar? Cheers!
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Old 2012-08-15, 04:04   Link #1307
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Can I claim that as my new avatar? Cheers!
What anime is that from?
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Old 2012-08-15, 04:07   Link #1308
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What thread are you reading?
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Old 2012-08-15, 04:12   Link #1309
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What anime is that from?
Which thread are you in?

EDIT: So not only are you a princess, you're also a ninja princess now?
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Old 2012-08-15, 04:23   Link #1310
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Old 2012-08-15, 04:27   Link #1311
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Yeah, a ninja can do a lot more in just one second.
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Old 2012-08-15, 04:29   Link #1312
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Guess I got distracted...

I call misdirection!

EDIT: Yeah, like misdirection (in tricks) is meant to last for 5 minutes either... Fail.
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Old 2012-08-15, 04:31   Link #1313
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Old 2012-08-15, 06:07   Link #1314
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I think a case can also be made that even if the male characters were to get actual personalities now, it would already be too late for the show to get a free pass given that it's more than half finished (not counting the 4 BD extra eps). If that happened now it would be better than it not happening, but it still wouldn't totally excuse what we've seen so far.
I have the same feeling in respect of Tari Tari (that is shorter than KC), but not for KC. I don't know, but from the start I got the feeling that Taichi would/will have some sort of deconstruction along the way (anf I keep having faith ). Simply we need to wait things to pile up for him, and they are, slowly they are. Aoki is a question mark instead, but I can forgive them for not expanding one character out of five, if they will go where I think/hope they are trying to go.

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She's obviously referring to her previous screw up in episode two when she nonchalantly explains to Yui that her parents are divorced and to club any intruders if any come when she's alone. Yui freaks out at her explanation.
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I think this is what Iori is referring to when she doesn't want to screw up with Taichi. Having developed a Taichi-centric personality, she doesn't want to shake up what she thinks Taichi loves about her by accidentally introducing another personality during their conversations. The problem I see is that Taichi previously comments that Iori seems different around him, so I think that means Taichi likes the group-centric Iori better than Taichi-centric Iori. My speculation about Taichi might be unwarranted, but Iori definitely hasn't made much progress concerning her identity issues even with Taichi's intervention and "her" suicide.
I was wondering too what Iori was referring to with that line. Your thought seems consistent and interesting. And it seems to point to a direction the show is or should go, for me. I mean, that would imply that Taichi is not helping at all Iori with her issues, but she is simply adapting a new personality to fit Taichi expectations. Secondly that means even that all the HS's "efforts" are pushing things in the wrong direction (apparently). At least for the main cast that so far is made up of Inaban, Taichi and Iori. Inaba seems that will crush soon on Taichi, i.e. she will let him down given the preview. Then eventually Taichi will know that his Iori version is not her true personality, but just another faked one, more or less.
With the two girls failing at him one after another I think Taichi will crack too. Or that what I'd like to see.
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Old 2012-08-15, 11:11   Link #1315
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I think the one who will be the most troubled in this arc is Inaba.
Cause she is the type that restricts herself for example it is already apparent that She is in love with Taichi however she can't act because of the feelings Iori. So instead she will hide her feelings and support Iori instead.
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Old 2012-08-15, 13:50   Link #1316
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i think that taichi is the most interesting in this arc. he is always hiding his true self in order to make others happy, but now he is forced to expose himself. for exemple: does he trully love iori or does he jst think that she need him more than anyone else?
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Old 2012-08-15, 14:53   Link #1317
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Forgive me if this is off topic but here's a little news that's pretty interesting...

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...th-17-episodes
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Old 2012-08-15, 15:04   Link #1318
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Forgive me if this is off topic but here's a little news that's pretty interesting...

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...th-17-episodes
Well, it's not off-topic, but I'm a bit surprised ANN only noticed this now. I pointed this out over a month ago. Oh well... at least now people will consider it confirmed.

Spoiler for Episode count breakdown per the official Website:
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Old 2012-08-15, 15:33   Link #1319
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Well, it's not off-topic, but I'm a bit surprised ANN only noticed this now. I pointed this out over a month ago. Oh well... at least now people will consider it confirmed.

Spoiler for Episode count breakdown per the official Website:
I thought it was going to be 5-4-4-4?
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Old 2012-08-15, 15:36   Link #1320
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i think that taichi is the most interesting in this arc. he is always hiding his true self in order to make others happy, but now he is forced to expose himself. for exemple: does he trully love iori or does he jst think that she need him more than anyone else?
It would be interesting if they worked with that. Taichi's need to put others above himself means that he often has to ignore his own interests to please others. In a way, he was the best person to help Iori with her issue, which pretty much deals with finding yourself alongside being a well adapted individual. However, this need to take care of people can really backfire (like Inaba told him), especially if he mistakes it for something else.
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