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View Poll Results: Claymore - Chapter 120 Rating
Perfect 10 12 16.22%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 18 24.32%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 16 21.62%
7 out of 10 : Good 9 12.16%
6 out of 10 : Average 5 6.76%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 7 9.46%
4 out of 10 : Poor 1 1.35%
3 out of 10 : Bad 1 1.35%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
1 out of 10 : Painful 5 6.76%
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Old 2011-11-01, 23:40   Link #81
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I think the spoiler is probably true. Dae seems to want to draw out Priscilla. He seemed pretty fascinated about the origin of the arm in raki. thats all he appears to care about as we saw with his discussion with Rimuto
What needs to be explained then is why Priscilla's flesh has a different effect on Raki than it does to the former number ones. Dae tinkered, sure, but if all he was banking on was mad scientist regeneration, why was Raki basically unscathed? It's a terrible explanation to suggest that Priscilla's flesh and the Destroyer's flesh cancel each other out, considering that Priscilla clearly has the upper hand in power versus it and was only subdued due to Claire.

If the spoiler is true then what the story is implying is that the number ones were not brought back to life like some kind of Frankenstein experiment, but rather that Priscilla's flesh literally regenerated them from death itself and that they were going to Awaken because of this process regardless of what they went through otherwise (meaning even if they just sat around they'd Awaken).

So if the flesh does this, why is Raki still human?
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Old 2011-11-01, 23:52   Link #82
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Sorry to break up the soft porn fun , but this is actually interesting. At 2ch, last night (Japan time)
Spoiler for spoiler guy sez:
This sounded more than a little odd, because
Spoiler for spoiler guy had said before that:
So I went "say what???" on him and got a pretty interesting reply this morning (Japan time).
Spoiler for spoiler guy sez:
Chew on this...

Spoiler for and the Japanese text for those who want it:
Thanks for the info. That's some interesting development. If one arm of Priscilla has this effect, doesn't it mean that Priscilla is pretty much immortal?
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Old 2011-11-02, 00:49   Link #83
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Possibly some good news - a certain scanlation group says "Jump stuff will be coming out per normal today (no delays)" - which probably means D.Gray-man will be out shortly.
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Old 2011-11-02, 01:23   Link #84
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I think they have Shounen Jump in mind not Jump Square. And I'm not even sure D.Gray-man will be out in December issue of JSQ. Anyway, currently I'm more interested in Hunter x Hunter than I am in Claymore, recent chapters have been awesome.
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Old 2011-11-02, 01:38   Link #85
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Spoilers have been comfirmed by Aphetto from MH (I hope he's joking though, but I fear for the worst):

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Had a quick look at SQJ at the bookstore.
The spoiler posted by the above person is correct.

Cassandra's awakened form is meh. Think of Beth's awakened form but replace the Hellcat with
a female body. Only ten times bigger and naked.
She shoots tentacles that have heads attached.

That is why Roxanne keeps laughing at her fighting style which still resembles the Dust Eater,
i.e., her heads omnom the ground.
By the end Roxanne is dismembered.

Cassandra's only line in the whole chapter is (to Roxanne): "You taste like shit."

Miria rushes to fight Cassandra but Hysteria, as she said, is a conceited b**** that hates being
ignored, chases her. Miria is not happy and impales her through the throat.

R and H go bikibiki and start awakening.
You get the impression that they were on a timer.

Then Dae, still wearing his Halloween costume, shows up and explains that he wants Priscilla
to come 'round for tea. He had planned to attract her with the massive youki release
from the awakening of the three.

DUM DUM DUMMM
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Old 2011-11-02, 01:48   Link #86
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What needs to be explained then is why Priscilla's flesh has a different effect on Raki than it does to the former number ones. Dae tinkered, sure, but if all he was banking on was mad scientist regeneration, why was Raki basically unscathed? It's a terrible explanation to suggest that Priscilla's flesh and the Destroyer's flesh cancel each other out, considering that Priscilla clearly has the upper hand in power versus it and was only subdued due to Claire.

If the spoiler is true then what the story is implying is that the number ones were not brought back to life like some kind of Frankenstein experiment, but rather that Priscilla's flesh literally regenerated them from death itself and that they were going to Awaken because of this process regardless of what they went through otherwise (meaning even if they just sat around they'd Awaken).

So if the flesh does this, why is Raki still human?
The way I see it is that Priscilla's yoki merely supercharged the former number ones original yoki to somehow bring them back to life. It seems that when claymores yoki, levels reach 0, then they simply cease to function/ die. Due to the nature of their bodies however, it seems as if their cells are able to regenerate if given enough energy (Yoki) even after remaining a corpse for many many years. Deneve's body is able to regenerate itself when she's unconscious so it makes sense to me that a the former number ones can be brought back.

So in other words, if given enough yoki, it seems any intact claymore can come back to life under the same process.

Raki is a different story however. He is merely human and has no yoki (that we know of). So if we assume he has no yoki, then Priscilla's arm may have merely stopped the spread of the infection from Rafaela/Luciela and nothing more. But since some humans are known to sense yoki, perhaps it also means they are able to be influenced by it as well? Perhaps the years he spend with Priscilla has somehow made his body tolerant to her yoki?
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Old 2011-11-02, 02:24   Link #87
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UGH, this chapter is going to blow if the spoiler are true. I mean as much as i wanted all 3 to awaken I don't think any of us expected it to occur in one chapter. Does this mean that we won't get to see Roxannes backstory? I still want to know how she died, and what claymore was powerful enough to best her in a battle.

Also if Miria kills Hysteria that easily it will be even more of a joke than her battle already is. Really Yagi, Now miria has the ability to easily kill one of the most powerful claymore's of all time. She somehow managed to become that strong in 7 years. You might as well have Miria and Clare kill Priscilla together at this point. God knows miria is strong enough.
Ok, that rants over but still, I feel like all of this could be dragged out over a couple of chapters. I agree with everyone else this seems way too rushed. Hopefully all of the spoilers so far are fake or at least off by a little bit (Roxanne and Hysteria awakening).
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Old 2011-11-02, 02:27   Link #88
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Well, like I said in the previous thread, Clare might be on the colored cover of the next (121st) chapter, especially if the spoiler turns out to be true (and everything seems to indicate that). So three awakenings aren't that surprising. But Miria suddenly defeating Hysteria is just stupid.
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Old 2011-11-02, 02:50   Link #89
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you beat me to the punch Gooral

Quote:
Had a quick look at SQJ at the bookstore.
The spoiler posted by the above person is correct.

Cassandra's awakened form is meh. Think of Beth's awakened form but replace the Hellcat with
a female body. Only ten times bigger and naked.
She shoots tentacles that have heads attached.

That is why Roxanne keeps laughing at her fighting style which still resembles the Dust Eater,
i.e., her heads omnom the ground.
By the end Roxanne is dismembered.

Cassandra's only line in the whole chapter is (to Roxanne): "You taste like shit."

Miria rushes to fight Cassandra but Hysteria, as she said, is a conceited b**** that hates being
ignored, chases her. Miria is not happy and impales her through the throat.

R and H go bikibiki and start awakening.
You get the impression that they were on a timer.

Then Dae, still wearing his Halloween costume, shows up and explains that he wants Priscilla
to come 'round for tea. He had planned to attract her with the massive youki release
from the awakening of the three.

DUM DUM DUMMM
if it's true......
then my prediction(about Clare & Priscilla coming out the "blob") goes down the drain.
My thinking was:
a/ something happen to Raki, Clare will show up
b/ Raki go and see the "blob" after the rebellion and draws her out
c/ nothing happens, they are in there for eternity
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Old 2011-11-02, 04:38   Link #90
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Damn, I'm liking Dae more and more. Mad scientists who just don't give a sh*t are awesome. But you wonder about the wisdom of attracting a being like Priscilla there without having a back-up plan, so let's hope he has one. Plus he doesn't know that Pris is trapped, but this could serve as a bridge to the blob and what's happening there.

As for Miria defeating Hysteria, well... what do you call 'plotkai' or 'plot no jutsu' in Claymore? I'm going to wait and see the circumstances, but either way it doesn't look that good.
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Old 2011-11-02, 05:18   Link #91
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Cassandra's AB form doesn't look as bad as I thought it would.

Spoiler for 120:

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Old 2011-11-02, 05:27   Link #92
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awakened cassandra
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Old 2011-11-02, 05:30   Link #93
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Full chapters out.
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Old 2011-11-02, 05:36   Link #94
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Full chapters out.
Ahh, I see, so the raw is out.

Spoiler for impression:

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Old 2011-11-02, 06:13   Link #95
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Can't find the RAW myself. Will reserve judgement till I see the chapter for myself.

I have to admit though, those spoilers don't sound promising.
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Will have to wait a month to see how the other two look.
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Old 2011-11-02, 06:28   Link #97
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I read a lot of complain in this board,but tbh imo this chapter is absolutely wonderfu,i loved it.

First of all it was about time that Yagi decided to speed up the current battle (it's not now that it's too fast,it was before that it was too slow imo),not to mention that i don't understand why people complain that all the 3 monsters are awakening so close to each other,imo it's 100% logical and infact i would have been disappointed if this didn't happen.
As soon Cassy awakened it was pretty clear that the whole situation would have changed drastically in a few minutes,it would have been a lot more stupid and unbelivable if this didn't happen.

Cassy's awakened form is great and very fitting (Yagi was even able to integrate her strange fighting style in that aw-form.....not easy if you ask me,lol)

Miria's "killing blow" against Histy was also quite surprising and it also express very well her absolute determination to not give up no matter what the situation.

Anyway,even with Deneve's group intervention,the situation is REALLY REALLY bad for the rebels,the only luck is that Cassy and Roxy are busy fighting each other......but still doesn't change the fact that the rebel's only optioin is to retreat (if they can.....),or hoping in an sudden intervention of Claire and Prissy in the battlefield (well,they still should escape from that if they value their lives,lol).

Also i don't agree at all with people that say that Claire can't take on Prissy and that her power-up would be a deus-ex machina solution.
Well,imo that's absolutely not true since Yagi made very clear for a long time that Claire's body has hidden an immense power,and considering Claire-Teresa connection (in other words,Claire unique body) imo there would be nothing strange if Claire gains a power even greater than Prissy (once unlocked her full powers obviously,maybe with some sort of unique awakening).
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Looking over the RAW now, not half as bad as the spoilers made it sound. It still felt a bit rushed considering all the build-up.

Cassandra's awakened form is definitely the weirdest one yet. I can't say I'm impressed, but it definitely leaves an impression.

She does seem to have power on par with what you'd expect from an Abyssal One though, considering how easily she owned Roxanne.

Speaking of which, are people honestly surprised by this result? Unless you really believed Roxanne's extremely biased PoV (#5 level without Dust Eater), then a #1 vs Abyssal One fight should always be one sided in the Awakened One's favor.

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The Miria vs Hysteria climax was surprisingly intense. Literally winning by the skin of her teeth, mostly because Hysteria was too reckless/angry to approach her cautiously. Sure, it may seem like an asspull to some, but its not like every fight in Claymore has been resolved by pure strength in the past *cough* Clare *cough*

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High point of this chapter (aside from seeing Roxanne get owned) is definitely Dae and his mad scientist ways. He resurrected these three purely in hopes of attracting Priscilla, I guess he would see her as the peak of his work judging by his dialogue in previous chapters.


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As for Miria defeating Hysteria, well... what do you call 'plotkai' or 'plot no jutsu' in Claymore? I'm going to wait and see the circumstances, but either way it doesn't look that good.
We call it "Clare no Jutsu."
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Old 2011-11-02, 06:42   Link #99
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Btw i doubt that we'll see Claire and Prissy in the next color chapter,it's a lot more probable that instead we'll have Deneve's group arrival on the battlefield,but maybe Yagi will give a hint at the very end of the chapter that something is hapening to the blob.

Thinking about it there is also the possibility that Yagi will shift the story to the mental world where Claire and Prissy are.....hmmm.....maybe it's not so impossible to se Claire and Prissy in the colored pages afterall.....
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Old 2011-11-02, 06:54   Link #100
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after seeing the raw: roxanne is just insane. i so want to know what she says. also audrey wasn't blasted by the "awakening wave". all 3 seem to be alive (well, we i don't know if cassandra aimed her tentacles at them when she first released them). design matters: old ao > new ao (or cassandra as we don't know what the other 2 look like).
gooral might drop the manga after seeing that miria magically summons a claymore (there wasn't one on the ground). her mouthskills seem awesome though
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