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Old 2014-01-15, 14:07   Link #2121
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Read up on the Manga now that the Anime started and yeah its time for one my outrageous theories...
Combined with an analysis...

The girl who gave him the locket is de fact Marika(go figures), though her general condition and her friends hint at 'that' suggest that she will probably die at some point (which is why the Manga is labeled as a drama), leading to the Kisaki end.

That much from hair colors and hidden agendas, on the other hand the key that was shown with the locket looks a lot more like Onoderas than one of the others...
On the other hand, her key looks a bit too big for that locket for my liking, so its probably in fact either Kisaki's or Marika's as they look a lot more like they got the right size.

Another possibility is that you actually need all 4 leys to unlock it and not just one.
Shuu's friend said that the lock is 'otherwise' broken.
But what if it isn't broken at all but intended to be like that? Like every key only unlocks a small part of the lock and you need all 4 to do the final turn.
Which does of course still leave the possibility that the ownwer of the 4th key is the past girl, though that would make a dumb plot imho...
Yet another possibility:
There is another 'key' inside the locket...
The problem is that its already been stated you need all 4 keys to unlock it
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Old 2014-01-15, 14:37   Link #2122
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The problem is that its already been stated you need all 4 keys to unlock it
Must have been in chapter 106 then, or I must have completely overlooked that part oO
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Old 2014-01-15, 15:08   Link #2123
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was it perharps in the book they read? Cause if not there i dont think it has been said
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Old 2014-01-15, 15:58   Link #2124
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Would be the only other place I can imagine it, and I read that chapter today...
Though they never clearly stated you need all 4 keys to open the lock.
It was hinted and thats what I built my theory about the locket, having never been broken, in the first place.
Though, ImperialFlameGod8190 has a point there, following the line you'd need 4 keys. Adding another key this late is a bit too random for my liking though.
tBh though, only two keys got Heart shapes on them, Marika's and Onodere's


The picture book in combination with marika's behaviior is a part of my theory too.
The ending was sad and made someone cry thats why it was redrawn, while Marika always starts getting silent when it comes to her condition, while on the other hand trying everything else she never plays that card.
Another thing I just checked (to make sure is that) only two of the keys we have seen actually have heart shapes on them, Onodere's and Marika's, the latter one has it front part while Onodere's has it on the handle.
Though thats only a hint for her being the girl (We got a lot to it being Kisaki too though).
What I think is a huge giveaway of her dying at some point is that she is a bit too overeager to enjoy her youth.
The general setting around her kinda reminds me on Clannad, where Nagisa was absent due to having been frail, the difference is that we never heard about her having medicine for it, while Marika seemingly got some.
It is also notable that she knows a lot more than she is giving away, even aside the 'illness' topic and directly introduced herself as his fiancee while the other girls forgot about most of it.
If a 4th key ever comes into play I think either Tsumugi will have it (as she was dated back 10 years too) or it will be inside the locket.
Though I don't think the word 'key' should be taken to literal for the 4th key.
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Old 2014-01-15, 18:06   Link #2125
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pardon the Manglish, I think.

I don't think I'm going to do summary for other chapters, as I came into Nisekoi for a wrong reason .

Oh, congratulations to Asumi Kana for her wedding. May Marika wins the Raku. She and Tsugumi are my favorites .
Thanks a lot for the summary! This is the kind of story I would have liked to see in the manga.

And wait a minute, Tsugumi is E cup? Damn, son.
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Old 2014-01-16, 22:07   Link #2126
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Tsugumi is Raku's long lost twin sister, so she can't win. You heard it here first
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Old 2014-01-17, 07:40   Link #2127
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Chitoge is back being cute....

so... Raku become awesome when he got amnesia.. while Chitoge got awesome when she lost her ribbon...
I want to put them together
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Old 2014-01-17, 08:58   Link #2128
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Chitoge was ridiculously cute in this chapter.
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Old 2014-01-17, 13:03   Link #2129
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Chitoge is too cute in this chapter. Now when is he gonna introduce a yandere girl.
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Old 2014-01-17, 16:58   Link #2130
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Old 2014-01-17, 23:55   Link #2131
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That last scene can also be written as:
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Old 2014-01-18, 05:42   Link #2132
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Tbh I liked Hime-doll more than Nisekoi. The setting was a lot more interesting, the characters had a lot of room to grow. Now the only ongoing romcom in JUMP is the full cliché marathon. What a sad day

I don't have any expectations of this series ever going back onto the path of a sensible story manga (like it initially tried to. The author gave up halfway and decided to go with non-sequential 1-2 filler chapters ever since).
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Old 2014-01-18, 06:19   Link #2133
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Tbh I liked Hime-doll more than Nisekoi. The setting was a lot more interesting, the characters had a lot of room to grow. Now the only ongoing romcom in JUMP is the full cliché marathon. What a sad day

I don't have any expectations of this series ever going back onto the path of a sensible story manga (like it initially tried to. The author gave up halfway and decided to go with non-sequential 1-2 filler chapters ever since).
Look, I'm not saying Hime Doll! is bad but there must be reasons it got axed at chapter 16 while Nisekoi persists until today. You might not read manga for these very reasons but Jump readership apparently does.

Also, the premise of Hime Doll wasn't really that innovative either; to start with tropes like "turn girl into idol" (srsly, there must be thousands of these right now) and "delinquent girl" this was kinda doomed from the start. The only feature where it stood out was the hairstylist part but cmon, did the author really think this would appeal to a shounen audience?

Finally, why are you venting your frustration about it in the Niskoi thread? Seems kinda troll-ish to me.
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Old 2014-01-18, 06:34   Link #2134
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Chitoge in dere mode without the ribbon, the best time for raku to kiss her
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Old 2014-01-18, 09:30   Link #2135
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Finally, why are you venting your frustration about it in the Niskoi thread? Seems kinda troll-ish to me.
Because he paid for it and wasted his time and money? I don't see the problem in people having different opinions regarding reading materials, because if everyone felt the same thing, then there must be something wrong with the book, IMO.

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Old 2014-01-18, 10:46   Link #2136
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Look, I'm not saying Hime Doll! is bad but there must be reasons it got axed at chapter 16 while Nisekoi persists until today. You might not read manga for these very reasons but Jump readership apparently does.

Also, the premise of Hime Doll wasn't really that innovative either; to start with tropes like "turn girl into idol" (srsly, there must be thousands of these right now) and "delinquent girl" this was kinda doomed from the start. The only feature where it stood out was the hairstylist part but cmon, did the author really think this would appeal to a shounen audience?

Finally, why are you venting your frustration about it in the Niskoi thread? Seems kinda troll-ish to me.
Cuz there is literally nthn to comment on the current chapters. Instead more promising titles with way more room to improve and a wider array of possible developments get axed. I'm not saying that Hime-doll was a stand-alone title, with a premise that's never been there before (The school system arbitrarily reminds me of Hell's Kitchen). I'm just real sad that Nisekoi has nothing to its name except wacky facial expressions. Double Arts was great, same author, a million times more innovative and interesting. It got axed in the blink of an eye though. I'm not trying to compare Double Arts and Hime-doll in quality, the foundations for both manga were entirely different (well, apart from the whole sticking together thing of the MC's).

I'm just pissed off that this full-on cliché GAG manga actually survives in JUMP. I sometimes wonder what kind of ppl (or rather kids) are the main contributors of the questionnaires.. I'm the type of person that likes being enticed by intricate storylines or identify with the characters i read about. Having a sub-par, makes you smile once a week title is rather obsolete in my opinion. Apparently the (young) japs like this more than stories that may have overly interesting plots, just because they have a somewhat slow start (iirc Double Arts was awesome all the way)

Then again, Bleach is still not getting axed, but that's an entirely separate issue.
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Old 2014-01-18, 13:12   Link #2137
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Because he paid for it and wasted his time and money? I don't see the problem in people having different opinions regarding reading materials, because if everyone felt the same thing, then there must be something wrong with the book, IMO.

Tsugumi: Protector of Smiles HUEHUEHUEHUE

Well, you didn't get the point of this discussion then. He went on to rant about the cancellation of another series in this thread relating it to Nisekoi almost as if it was the latter's fault. I'm not questioning his issues with Nisekoi in general, several have voiced those before, but he started this with an extremely sore attitude because of another romcom in the same mag getting axed. I'm sry but this is no healthy basis for a discussion.

@LeaD36

The longer a series goes the less the author has the liberty to develop in different directions. Hime Doll was in an extreme early-early stage when it was cancelled. If it got past the 50+, trust me, it would've gotten more and more static and repetitive once the author found out what exactly the readers like about the series. Your misconception is that you compare HD! 16 to Niskoi 100+ .

So you don't like slice of life, which is pretty much the conclusion I'm getting here. There are a lot of mangas out there with a strong dynamic plot and/or interesting features and twists. Sry to say it like that but Hime Doll just wasn't good enough for the current market it seems. If Nisekoi only has whacky faces to it then Hime Doll had nothing, otherwise we wouldn't be having this discussion in the Nisekoi thread but in a more-than-one-page HD thread.
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Old 2014-01-18, 13:39   Link #2138
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The anime makes it awfully look like Chitoge gave Raku the locket the way they drew her hair
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Old 2014-01-18, 13:55   Link #2139
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so this niseKEY not yet ended... well, only 93 heroine with keys left i think
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Old 2014-01-18, 18:22   Link #2140
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I wouldn't put too much stock in anything like that quite yet the anime wont reveal things the manga hasn't yet or at least it shouldn't so i'd wait for the keys solution to present itself whatever it may be
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