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Old 2013-01-06, 16:19   Link #2801
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It would be even better if Sunrise made it. The main problem of Satellite: it has great directors and choose projects and scriptwriters carefully but it just can't get enough money to animated it on the best level and use to much 3d to compensate it (((.
The 3D didn't look as jarring this time around, in my opinion. They did a better job of making it blend in so there was less of an uncanny valley effect.
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Old 2013-01-06, 16:40   Link #2802
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It would be even better if Sunrise made it. The main problem of Satellite: it has great directors and choose projects and scriptwriters carefully but it just can't get enough money to animated it on the best level and use to much 3d to compensate it (((.
The result is always much worse when you do it the other way around (just look at every super hyped series of 2012), so I'm fine with what we got. Satelight is doing a great job with what surely are limited resources.
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Old 2013-01-06, 17:26   Link #2803
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There are different 3d. In Love Live Sunrise used 3d for all the dances too but it looked almost like 2d while here it looks 3d and quite mediocre (((. Not that I'm whining, cause I like AKB0048 much more but it still could be better
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Old 2013-01-06, 20:18   Link #2804
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There are different 3d. In Love Live Sunrise used 3d for all the dances too but it looked almost like 2d while here it looks 3d and quite mediocre (((. Not that I'm whining, cause I like AKB0048 much more but it still could be better
Love Live looks sort of good but it's generic as fuck. And I'm not talking only about the story. The artwork too: the backgrounds are all generic cityscape tracings, the character designs are Idolm@ster clones, etc. It's a good thing Sunrise didn't work on this series. Those guys has no creativity at all.

AKB0048 isn't perfect, but it's pretty creative, which is more than enough imo.
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Old 2013-01-06, 21:07   Link #2805
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There are different 3d. In Love Live Sunrise used 3d for all the dances too but it looked almost like 2d while here it looks 3d and quite mediocre (((. Not that I'm whining, cause I like AKB0048 much more but it still could be better
No offense, but are you trying to start a fight between fanbases? Good storytelling, big concepts, great vision and a wild imagination counts here more than just looks.

And where else there's a show that has a minor character speaking in your language? LOL
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Old 2013-01-06, 22:19   Link #2806
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A very nice return but poor Nagisa she still to troubled

Spoiler for Now that how its done:
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Old 2013-01-06, 22:28   Link #2807
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it just can't get enough money to animated it on the best level and use to much 3d to compensate it (((.
I'm not a member of either company, but I wouldn't be surprised if AKB used more money than Love Life. At least that's the impression I get when I see the staff, the episodes, and the fact it is AKB and I'm pretty sure AKB (not the girls, the executives) can dish out a lot of money.
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Old 2013-01-06, 22:44   Link #2808
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...and I'm pretty sure AKB (not the girls, the executives) can dish out a lot of money.
FYI, the real-life agency running/owning/licensing the *48 franchises is called AKS; the initial idea of the show itself first came from a Starchild Records (of course, a division of King Records, which currently sells most of AKB's singles and albums) executive.

I think much budget and better productions are best given to OVAs and movies.
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Old 2013-01-06, 23:09   Link #2809
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I thought this episode was pretty high-budget myself. There were few of the usual cost-saving devices like one-shots and two-shots where just the characters' mouths move. Nearly every scene included a lot of motion and on-screen action. I was actually wondering whether Satelight had blown their budget on this episode in an effort to gain share of mind. I suspect, though, that the parent enterprise has more than enough to spend on this project if it chooses to do so.

I was more mixed on the story itself. It felt more contrived than usual, and the rescue was just too easy. I saw this episode as designed primarily to bring new viewers up-to-speed on the basic story dimensions. Putting Chieri at risk automatically involved all us old hands, of course. Showing a little skin here and there probably helped, too.
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Old 2013-01-06, 23:29   Link #2810
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and the rescue was just too easy.
That was almost certainly on purpose. While the trial was probably legitimate (assuming you can call that sort of kangaroo court legitimate in the first place), the situation on a whole was likely never actually intended to bring idols to "justice," but rather to put them in a situation where they'd end up having to show off the kiraras' powers. Chieri's father wanted the captured idols to be rescued, so he could get more data on the kirara effect.

DES has always been completely incompetent in fights against the girls. This is the first time there's probably been a reason for that to be the case.
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Old 2013-01-06, 23:31   Link #2811
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I'm just glad that the second season finally started
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Old 2013-01-07, 00:49   Link #2812
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Chieri's father wanted the captured idols to be rescued, so he could get more data on the kirara effect.
Which means, soon we could be seeing some possible upsets and tooth-and-nail battles, even a forced tactical retreat (in the previous season they're winning most of the time, beating the mooks too easily just like in a sentai show; the closest they had was almost losing Takamina to the enemy).

Also, by this episode they're indeed trying to correct those loose ends, apart from introducing some new twists.

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Old 2013-01-07, 01:10   Link #2813
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Well, technically...
Considering the license Satelight have to pay for all those AKB song and reference, this a huge budget show already. Eventhough i am sure that Satelight (or any sponsor) dont pay for all the license for using Mafia48's name in this anime...

One good thing, they can focus all the budget into animation...
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Old 2013-01-07, 01:29   Link #2814
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Well, technically...
Considering the license Satelight have to pay for all those AKB song
They didn't have to pay anything. You're forgetting this anime is produced and owned by the same company that owns AKB. Satelight are just contractors. They're paid to make the anime. That's all.
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Old 2013-01-07, 01:32   Link #2815
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They didn't have to pay anything. You're forgetting this anime is produced and owned by the same company that owns AKB. Satelight are just contractors. They're paid to make the anime. That's all.
That's what i say in the next sentence...

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Eventhough i am sure that Satelight (or any sponsor) dont pay for all the license for using Mafia48's name in this anime...
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Old 2013-01-07, 01:36   Link #2816
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Eventhough i am sure that Satelight (or any sponsor) dont pay for all the license for using Mafia48's name in this anime...
Funny, no Arashi the Animation yet forthcoming.
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Old 2013-01-07, 02:25   Link #2817
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I'm not trying to start anything. Are you read my post? I'm watching this because I liked S1 and like it much more than all the over Idol shows I saw, while Love Live I put on-hold for now. Maybe I'll watch it after, maybe not. I just said that Sunrise made better job with 3d in performance parts.

And it's really stupid to say that Sunrise is bad in terms of creativity. Yes, Love Live is bad in this terms but Sunrise has not less percent good shows than Satellite. And Sunrise studio 8 which is making it is one of the best in terms of animation quality. Just that they picked wrong show this time.
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Old 2013-01-07, 02:59   Link #2818
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Last time Sunrise did a series based upon idols, we got this:



With Satelight, even at their worst, you get a sense that they're putting real effort into their work -- Muv Luv had tons of problems, but their fight scenes were still superior to, say, Sword Art Online's still-frame theater. And AKB0048 isn't Satelight at their worst. The dance numbers could be better, but all the other CG fits the visual style of the show.
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Old 2013-01-07, 03:40   Link #2819
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And where else there's a show that has a minor character speaking in your language? LOL
a bit of a side note sir, but just curious since i don't quite remember any non Japanese line in the episode where is this part?
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Old 2013-01-07, 04:33   Link #2820
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a bit of a side note sir, but just curious since i don't quite remember any non Japanese line in the episode where is this part?
Season 1, in Tundrastar -- one of the minor characters, Alena, speaks in Russian (TBH, the VA is Anna Murashige of HKT48, and is half-Russian by birth).

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