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ReaperxKingx · 2012-07-13, 16:36

Art is fantastic, but comparing anime from a Light Novel is a bit too much. High School DXD had Miyama-Zero doing the art, the anime was still excellent in art, but well you know. Campione anime is very rushed and I really hate it.

ImperialFlameGod8190 · 2012-07-13, 16:37

its more like they've taken a lot of the boring parts and removed them although they introduced mariya a bit early it seems scrambled but here's my thing. If a smoking hot chick all of the sudden went from indifferent to wanting to jump my bones i wouldnt complain

ReaperxKingx · 2012-07-13, 16:47

Well that is you my friend, if that was my situation I would be saying "what have I done" in a grimly way and how to I explain it to my 6 and a half year girlfriend. Overall, at least they made Erica's character the way I expected well it is just under the bar of satisfactory but who cares. At this pace, Ena may be introduce by episode 6. Too fast is an understatement.

Anh_Minh · 2012-07-13, 17:18

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Originally Posted by Awrya

They compressed volume 1 into 12 minutes, with the beginning of Vol. 2 taking the rest.

It looks like they're still going to do volume 1. It's just that they'll do it at the same time as volume 2.

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Originally Posted by Xaturas

Didn't read LN, as for anime, some things were nice others made me facepalm. Like Blondie and maid talking to themselves in Japanese even though boy wasn't there.
Small details like that are the make or brake for series that aim to be above average.

It's probably just a translation convention. No big deal. Also, assume that everyone who matters, including Godou, speaks any relevant language. It's magic.

ReaperxKingx · 2012-07-13, 17:21

From the Light Novel, there wasn't an instant that Lily would be afraid of Voban. I think that arc is up next. *Sigh* one of the funniest part of the Light Novel was taken out, Pandora's exact saying to who she was to Godou was "Loli step mother" (Literally no joke).

Dengar · 2012-07-13, 18:01

Am I the only one who hasn't read the LN? Because I feel like the only one who fails to see a real problem with this story.

Wilfriback · 2012-07-13, 18:11

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Originally Posted by Dengar

Am I the only one who hasn't read the LN? Because I feel like the only one who fails to see a real problem with this story.

No problem at all, they're cutting parts of the long exposition from the LN to fit in the anime adaptation. The characters, setting, etc remains the same, there is the chance that they'll re-arrange some events but judging from the next episode preview its unlikely.

Archmagination2002 · 2012-07-13, 18:40

Once again into the fire I go.. watched episode 2.. shudder!!

Spoiler for Episode 2:

Its something I will never understand.. the reasoning behind twisting the source material to create an 'different' anime. The reason why the series becomes a anime is because its popular and when you twist it into something else you are most likely gonna destroy what made it popular.

Athena · 2012-07-13, 19:04

So basically....
1/4 didn't watch the anime and think that it's good.
1/4 watched the anime and are ok with the series even if there are some major changes.
1/4 of the people liked the LN and hate the anime.
And the final 1/4 think that Campione is shit.

----

Just finished Volume 2. Basically, if you look at it from the eyes of a hater, you could notice that Godou looks like Touma and go in super-saien mode (talking about the scene at the end of the OP).

Overall, I think that this might turn into a Hyakka Ryouran or whatever it was called (you know, the thing with the samurai girls?) and will get an original plot. My guess is that the first part of the season will be something with Meet&Fall in love, and Te second part about facing gods.

Well, guys, rejoice! At least the coliseum is destroyed.

Kadi · 2012-07-13, 19:13

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Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

It looks like they're still going to do volume 1. It's just that they'll do it at the same time as volume 2.

*bird of prey = raptor?*

It's probably just a translation convention. No big deal. Also, assume that everyone who matters, including Godou, speaks any relevant language. It's magic.

From what I see, they don't do significant V2 plot yet. They only show the characters. Frankly, I don't know how long the events V1 and V2 are originally apart, but this isn't a problem.

And yes, bird of prey = raptor. On BT we chose the latter because it sounds slicker.

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Originally Posted by ReaperxKingx

From the Light Novel, there wasn't an instant that Lily would be afraid of Voban. I think that arc is up next. *Sigh* one of the funniest part of the Light Novel was taken out, Pandora's exact saying to who she was to Godou was "moe Loli step mother" (Literally no joke).

Yes, she was. If she disobeys, she's dead. Wait, wrong, undead.
And I fixed that about Pandora for you... (it's from V11, but w/e)

shadow1296 · 2012-07-13, 19:29

you guys what are u talking about they aren't even out of the first volume

Spoiler for reasons:

Chaos2Frozen · 2012-07-13, 19:56

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Originally Posted by Archmagination2002

Its something I will never understand.. the reasoning behind twisting the source material to create an 'different' anime. The reason why the series becomes a anime is because its popular and when you twist it into something else you are most likely gonna destroy what made it popular.

Because not everything translate well into Anime scenes, and because sometimes the Author wouldn't mind seeing a different take on his work. As it stands Campione's Anime is still following the ground rules that the Light Novel has set for it, the major changes have only been the sequence of events which isn't really a major offense as far as 'twisting the source' material goes.

About the lack of character background- are you sure you're basing this impression off the very first volume, which timeline wise is where this episode is at, or are you basing it off your entire Light Novel experience? As I've recalled, what little background we know in vol 1 was told through monologues and Narratives, both of which I would hardly call compelling.

For the fight- Half of the 'tension' you speak of comes from the long expositions inbetween each actions. In text form those are enough to create your tension, however in real time, long expositions inbetween gaps does not a good action scene make.

ReaperxKingx · 2012-07-13, 20:06

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Originally Posted by Kadi

From what I see, they don't do significant V2 plot yet. They only show the characters. Frankly, I don't know how long the events V1 and V2 are originally apart, but this isn't a problem.

And yes, bird of prey = raptor. On BT we chose the latter because it sounds slicker.

Yes, she was. If she disobeys, she's dead. Wait, wrong, undead.
And I fixed that about Pandora for you... (it's from V11, but w/e)

Thanks for the fix, how did I forget Moe? What I don't get in the anime is that she is wearing lipstick. Also, Yuri, twin front pigtail are actually a little longer in the Novel. As well her way of speaking, well I expected a lot more it didn't seems like a strict and pure Himemiko. The Romance three stooges came earlier than expected though I cannot exactly pin point the two of the three members. Nanami, Sorimachi couldn't find them exactly, but at least Takagi is easy to find though. All in all, what made me like the episode a lot is Shizuka, close to what I imagine her.

Wilfriback · 2012-07-13, 20:09

Hah?
Vol.2? But they're only showing the characters like some kind of cameo e_e they didn't show any event from that volume so far.

Shizuka is still annoying in anime form...

ReaperxKingx · 2012-07-13, 20:16

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Originally Posted by Wilfriback

Hah?
Vol.2? But they're only showing the characters like some kind of cameo e_e they didn't show any event from that volume so far.

Shizuka is still annoying in anime form...

Nothing in vol 2 have occurred yet, though they did show the characters who take part in it. what I hope I mean really hope they didn't change in vol 2 is Lily's lines in chapter 4 part 3. It is a really good part, those who read the Novel had a good laugh at that part.

Wilfriback · 2012-07-13, 20:24

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Originally Posted by ReaperxKingx

Nothing in vol 2 have occurred yet, though they did show the characters who take part in it.

Read some posts above, users like Archmagination2002 are basically saying that.

ReaperxKingx · 2012-07-13, 20:33

I read vol 2 clearly, not much of vol 2 has been exposed yet. Well nothing major anyway all they done is introduce the characters, best to not think about it. If you like I can give you a summary about it a PM, though I say it is better for you to watch it in the anime.

wandering-dreamer · 2012-07-13, 20:59

Eeek, I've read a little of the first volume and ouch was that rushed pacing. In the first episode I could see why they rushed the story, even if I didn't like it, but here I'm starting to get worried, the characters aren't getting any time to develop at all.

novalysis · 2012-07-13, 21:01

I've never read the LN, yet the whole plot feels like it's a speeding Mag-Lev train.

kujoe · 2012-07-13, 21:05

Well, as an anime-only observer of this series, I already feel lost. Episode 2 feels like they skipped a bunch of events about the time when they were presumably still in Italy doing who knows what. Skip some important events later, and they're back in Japan—back to school no less. Did I get that right?

Is the original light novel that dense in detail and exposition in the first place? If so, I can't imagine how a compressed anime adaptation as what we're seeing now, would've been a great idea at all. It's a shame too, as the premise and the lore behind the story seems to be interesting, but the very quick pace of the story is really ruining it for me. The characters are decent and watchable, and the action scenes are decent even... All in all, such lost potential that it almost makes me want to weep in disappointment.

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2012-07-13, 16:36	Link #421
ReaperxKingx Emperor of the Expected Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Florida	Art is fantastic, but comparing anime from a Light Novel is a bit too much. High School DXD had Miyama-Zero doing the art, the anime was still excellent in art, but well you know. Campione anime is very rushed and I really hate it. __________________

2012-07-13, 16:47	Link #423
ReaperxKingx Emperor of the Expected Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Florida	Well that is you my friend, if that was my situation I would be saying "what have I done" in a grimly way and how to I explain it to my 6 and a half year girlfriend. Overall, at least they made Erica's character the way I expected well it is just under the bar of satisfactory but who cares. At this pace, Ena may be introduce by episode 6. Too fast is an understatement. __________________

2012-07-13, 17:21	Link #425
ReaperxKingx Emperor of the Expected Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Florida	From the Light Novel, there wasn't an instant that Lily would be afraid of Voban. I think that arc is up next. Sigh one of the funniest part of the Light Novel was taken out, Pandora's exact saying to who she was to Godou was "Loli step mother" (Literally no joke). __________________

2012-07-13, 18:40	Link #428
Archmagination2002 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006	Once again into the fire I go.. watched episode 2.. shudder!! Spoiler for Episode 2: This episode confirms it.. Campione! is going with their own anime only storylines. Take source material, keep the main characters/ideas, combine source plots/storylines with new anime original plots/storylines, throw away the rest of the source material and then have a bunch of flashy special effects. That is what the Campione! now is. Prophecy of the Star-less Night my A**!! The anime is throwing in a Godou learning how to use his campion powers while simultaneously trying to tie in 2 source material story-lines.. all at the same time. The fight scene was also pathetic as hell.. no tension, the Boars flashy special effect was pathetic(in the LN just him summoning it caused the earth to shake.) and the charge was nowhere near what it was in the LN. Really badly done all around. Worst of all is I have yet to see anything to make me care about the characters in this anime.. the lack of background & development for every character is scary. If I hadn't read the LN I would be lost on why I should care about anyone in this anime. Its something I will never understand.. the reasoning behind twisting the source material to create an 'different' anime. The reason why the series becomes a anime is because its popular and when you twist it into something else you are most likely gonna destroy what made it popular.

2012-07-13, 19:04	Link #429
Athena The Power of One Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Earth	So basically.... 1/4 didn't watch the anime and think that it's good. 1/4 watched the anime and are ok with the series even if there are some major changes. 1/4 of the people liked the LN and hate the anime. And the final 1/4 think that Campione is shit. ---- Just finished Volume 2. Basically, if you look at it from the eyes of a hater, you could notice that Godou looks like Touma and go in super-saien mode (talking about the scene at the end of the OP). Overall, I think that this might turn into a Hyakka Ryouran or whatever it was called (you know, the thing with the samurai girls?) and will get an original plot. My guess is that the first part of the season will be something with Meet&Fall in love, and Te second part about facing gods. Well, guys, rejoice! At least the coliseum is destroyed. __________________

2012-07-13, 16:37	Link #422
ImperialFlameGod8190 The Supreme General Join Date: Mar 2012	its more like they've taken a lot of the boring parts and removed them although they introduced mariya a bit early it seems scrambled but here's my thing. If a smoking hot chick all of the sudden went from indifferent to wanting to jump my bones i wouldnt complain

2012-07-13, 18:01	Link #426
Dengar Kamen Rider Muppeteer Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Unknown Age: 28	Am I the only one who hasn't read the LN? Because I feel like the only one who fails to see a real problem with this story.

2012-07-13, 19:29	Link #431
shadow1296 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Tennessee	you guys what are u talking about they aren't even out of the first volume Spoiler for reasons: they haven't fought heretic athena yet, n gudou's fight with erica is only like chapter 2 Last edited by shadow1296; 2012-07-13 at 20:13. Reason: unneeded quote

2012-07-13, 20:09	Link #434
Wilfriback 君思う声 Join Date: Jan 2009 Age: 23	Hah? Vol.2? But they're only showing the characters like some kind of cameo e_e they didn't show any event from that volume so far. Shizuka is still annoying in anime form...

2012-07-13, 20:33	Link #437
ReaperxKingx Emperor of the Expected Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Florida	I read vol 2 clearly, not much of vol 2 has been exposed yet. Well nothing major anyway all they done is introduce the characters, best to not think about it. If you like I can give you a summary about it a PM, though I say it is better for you to watch it in the anime. __________________

2012-07-13, 20:59	Link #438
wandering-dreamer reads too much Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: in bed with lots of plushies	Eeek, I've read a little of the first volume and ouch was that rushed pacing. In the first episode I could see why they rushed the story, even if I didn't like it, but here I'm starting to get worried, the characters aren't getting any time to develop at all. __________________ If it has a plot I have something to say about it! Twitter time!

2012-07-13, 21:01	Link #439
novalysis Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011	I've never read the LN, yet the whole plot feels like it's a speeding Mag-Lev train.

2012-07-13, 21:05	Link #440
kujoe from head to heel Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Vancouver, Canada Age: 31	Well, as an anime-only observer of this series, I already feel lost. Episode 2 feels like they skipped a bunch of events about the time when they were presumably still in Italy doing who knows what. Skip some important events later, and they're back in Japan—back to school no less. Did I get that right? Is the original light novel that dense in detail and exposition in the first place? If so, I can't imagine how a compressed anime adaptation as what we're seeing now, would've been a great idea at all. It's a shame too, as the premise and the lore behind the story seems to be interesting, but the very quick pace of the story is really ruining it for me. The characters are decent and watchable, and the action scenes are decent even... All in all, such lost potential that it almost makes me want to weep in disappointment. sigh.jpg