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Old 2012-07-02, 03:36   Link #61
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Where have I seen those mini-people...?

Oh wait.

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Old 2012-07-02, 03:48   Link #62
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It was every bit as trippy and hilarious as I'd hoped, and I got real Tsuritama vibes both from the pop-up storybook visuals and the relentless comedic energy. But don't mistake the fact that there's some serious social commentary going on inside all the random, too.
Indeed, love the social commentary. Stories about decline go well with the times, I say. We might be seeing more of them now that Japan is facing huge economic and social hurdles. Funny enough, apocalyptic stories were kind of popular in the last decade, so seeing this series talk about "decline" instead of "doomsday" is somewhat surprising.

The series lacks good direction though, it was nowhere near Tsuritama's level.
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Old 2012-07-02, 03:50   Link #63
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Well, it looks like I have my favorite show of the season right here.

I just love how this show incorporates all the random quirkiness into its setting without feeling intrusive or forced, though it probably has more to do with the sheer weirdness of the setting than anything else. The avante garde visuals serve to escalate this feeling even further.

But above all, it's the Narrator (or whatever her name is) who makes the show. Her deadpan narration just has its way of injecting fun into the absurdity of each scene. With her telling the story, I think I'll be able to enjoy this until the end.

Still, I don't think I'll be able to look at processed goods the same way again after this episode.
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Old 2012-07-02, 05:05   Link #64
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Oh wow. I hadn't expected much from this show based on what I'd first read about it, but it's quite wonderfully mad.
Loved the way the main character can be very shifty when she needs to.

But the bit with the loaf. WTF! That had me in stitches.
"Why is the bread bleeding?"

Then that ED. That's just wonderful, it's like Azumanga Daioh meets Haibane Renmei meets Charlotte the witch out of Madoka Magica.

Yes. Can this be this season's most entertainingly mad series? Looks like it so far!
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Old 2012-07-02, 05:32   Link #65
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......Bread Robo left me speechless.
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Old 2012-07-02, 06:54   Link #66
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This show was the exact opposite of what i was anticipating . I was not expecting all the dialoge and the jokes used in the show were defenitly not what i was expecting. But the biggest surprise was the bread.....WTF did i just watch .
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Old 2012-07-02, 06:58   Link #67
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Bread-kun had me in stitches. That was a really good laugh. Was so not expecting that.

The pros for ep 1 are the music, the visual style, some of the absurd & dark humor and all around interesting presentation.

The Cons is the world. If they go for heavy social commentary that isn't just played for absurdest laughs, this series is going to fail and fail hard. And I say that for 1 very specific reason: they've yet to show a character that survives a week in that world. (With the possible exception of the MC's Grandfather)

I get this is supposed to be a world that's post-apoc or taken over (all of these characters are likely in a science experiment or playground for the Faires; that seems the obvious hand-waving they'll do), but you don't need book-smarts to survive. You just need a will to do it. Unless we genetically engineer the will to survive out of people, that isn't going away. Thus you've removed the single most basic instinct from the characters in your world. Social commentary attempts won't really work when you've removed the humanity from them. (There's a reason sci-fi likes to use Robots for this type of story)

Still, I don't want to bash too hard. I liked what I saw, but a lot are grabbing onto the social commentary aspects. If it sticks to those aspects the anime is going to fail badly. If it goes with the dark, eccentric and absurd comedy aspect in the 'declined" world, then it could be a great series. (Though there's a potential middle ground where it's really a series where we get to stand-in for the MC and mock society, which could work in a cruel sort of way.)

If someone does know the source material, I wouldn't mind a PM telling me which direction the LN take the series. I'll stick around for at least the 3 episodes, but I'm really hoping there's more Bread-kun moments than 6 hour failed committee meetings.
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Old 2012-07-02, 07:02   Link #68
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Alright, I went into this having NO prior knowledge about the anime except the brief details on ANN (ie - none but the picture, and the fact it's genre was "fairies", nothing else). I wonder if only people who react well seek the forums out? I was -not- grabbed, and in fact rather turned off - the bread ripping itself was funny, but so over the top that I immediately got the feeling that was definitely a 'fail' series for me. I watch almost ALL the potentially interesting series as they come out to find good ones each season, and this one... I may try another ep before I totally dismiss it. I am given a -little- hope by the fact someone earlier mentioned this is actually something like Vol 4 chronologically - I think if this is indeed a good series, they made a disastrous mistake stuffing us into the middle of it without preparation. Yes, it has some BIG 'grab' moments - but for me, it was too much, too soon. I got more of an "Accel Saga" vibe than anything else - I'm rather shocked this was made by a duo from Kamisama Dolls (which I really liked).

I suppose you just have to really like the surreal and bizarre. I am definitely not one to be daunted by it - I mean, I just came off a season where some of my favourites included Accel World (pretty darn surreal at times), Sankarae (boy who dreams of romantic zombies, and then GETS one), and - to take the cake- Mysterious Girlfriend X, all about a young boyfriend-girlfriend couple with a relationship founded on emotional-exchanges via spit/drool (and it was actually, must admit, an amazingly well done series with a somewhat "The Cat Returns" vibe at times, maybe it was the dream sequences and music).

Accel Saga I tried for many eps and finally gave up ... same with Dokoro Chan, which was all bloody and messy and while hilarious at moments eventually went too far. Am I the only one put off, or is everyone reading this board already a fan to start with and hence biased - or am I simply insane for being put off? Either way, I'll maybe give it one more chance... but my first thought is that of all the ones I've seen this season (Tari Tari, Jinrui) this is the first epic fail. Which is odd, as Japan normally is capable of making almost anything work- the more bizarre, the more it seems to work normally

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Old 2012-07-02, 07:14   Link #69
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I liked what I saw, but a lot are grabbing onto the social commentary aspects. If it sticks to those aspects the anime is going to fail badly.
You say this, but you don't specify any reasoning. I get the feeling this is the kind of series where you can easily ignore the social commentary, so why not. Anyway, I still don't know why this would be a bad thing, lol. We really don't need another Shining Hearts: Shiawase no Pan series. Please, anything but that.
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Old 2012-07-02, 07:36   Link #70
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Still, I don't want to bash too hard. I liked what I saw, but a lot are grabbing onto the social commentary aspects. If it sticks to those aspects the anime is going to fail badly. If it goes with the dark, eccentric and absurd comedy aspect in the 'declined" world, then it could be a great series. (Though there's a potential middle ground where it's really a series where we get to stand-in for the MC and mock society, which could work in a cruel sort of way.)
There is an established middle ground for the extremes you're suggesting.

It's called satire.
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Old 2012-07-02, 07:41   Link #71
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Old 2012-07-02, 08:04   Link #72
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You say this, but you don't specify any reasoning. I get the feeling this is the kind of series where you can easily ignore the social commentary, so why not. Anyway, I still don't know why this would be a bad thing, lol. We really don't need another Shining Hearts: Shiawase no Pan series. Please, anything but that.
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I get this is supposed to be a world that's post-apoc or taken over (all of these characters are likely in a science experiment or playground for the Faires; that seems the obvious hand-waving they'll do), but you don't need book-smarts to survive. You just need a will to do it. Unless we genetically engineer the will to survive out of people, that isn't going away. Thus you've removed the single most basic instinct from the characters in your world. Social commentary attempts won't really work when you've removed the humanity from them. (There's a reason sci-fi likes to use Robots for this type of story)
I honestly don't know if there'll be a lot of social commentary. But a bunch of people are catching onto that point (the title makes it hard to get away from, at first glance), so it's an important thing to point out. It simply won't work if the characters aren't recognizable as human.

If they go the absurdest route, they can weave in some satire, but the best comedy bits came from tone shifts into irony, at least in episode 1. But we'll see. I hope it stays in the vein of Bread-kun's untimely demise, as there's a huge area of dark comedy to be found there.
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Old 2012-07-02, 08:30   Link #73
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It simply won't work if the characters aren't recognizable as human.
Can a baby do much else other than cry to survive? Yet it is still a human being. The characters are human, they are just used to a certain way of life. Supplies seem to come to them by themselves, so they don't concern themselves too much. If they don't get chickens, they get canned food or eat vegetables. This is how they're used to living, as far as we know so far.

If we can draw parallels to the real world here, Japan has built infrastructure that's pretty much unmatched by the rest of the world, so that you have villages with now less than 2000 people that have their own highway or train connections, many of which have to close down now due to unprofitability. Tokyo has been criticized as a nursary city with its "clean and safe" image. But now that Japan had to deal with an unforseen situation, which was the magnitude of destruction that the earthquake and tsunami disaster brought about, the country is slowly falling apart, because they've been nursed for with things such as their fast and affordable public transport and 24/7 convenient stores and pre-made lunch boxes. Do you see where I'm going with this?

This kind of stuff Japan, the youth (and the elderly) all over the world should be thinking about. Sorry, but this is no time to be mocking social commentary. Japan has been doing that for the last 30 years and look where that brought them.
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Old 2012-07-02, 08:39   Link #74
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Once again, Japan proves to me that they smoke shrooms... and the staff who were producing this had some strong shrooms. I want some of dem shrooms!

This pilot ep was excellent. I was both laughing out loud whilst being intrigued at how depressing and dark its undertones were. Guess that's what you get if you combine Seiji Kishi (who is notorious for his crazy comedy antics) with the creator of Cross Channel. Man... I still remember how f***ed up/depressing Cross Channel was despite its silly and energetic exterior.

Definitely looking forward to more. Feels good man when one of you're sleeper B title expectations turn out to be pwnage.
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Old 2012-07-02, 08:44   Link #75
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There's only one thing I can say about this episode : WTF Japan?!

It was pretty funny, I have to admit, though at first when I read of the premise I was sure I'd skip this. That last part with the bread cracked me up too.
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Old 2012-07-02, 08:51   Link #76
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An excellent start

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I usualy have trouble with 1st episodes of Kishi Seiji shows but while I was a bit lost at times I enjoyed this a whole lot andI'm sold on this,love the fun it takes at corporate culture,the world looks bright and colorful but there's definatly a darker side to it,that goes for our main protag as well.
Those were my first reactions too. Also I loved the presentation linguistic revisionism and persecution of criticism. It was one sided of course, but definitely interesting to watch, hear and think about.

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ok, i got the ep list
ep 1,2 the fairies' secret factory (vol 4)
ep 3,4 the fairies' subculture (vol 6)
ep 5,6 the fairies go back home (vol 3)
ep 7,8 the fairies' time management (vol 2)
ep 9 the fairies' drifting life (vol 4)
ep 10 the fairies' earth (vol 1)
ep 11,12 the fairies' secret tea party (vol 5)

very strange arrangement
I don't know what to expect
This is worrisome, but I hope the shuffling was done for the purposes of storytelling. In TV series in addition to the need for the coherence of each episode, there is a need to build up anticipation for the next.

Oh! and is there some reason behind translate sensei as mediator?
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Old 2012-07-02, 09:22   Link #77
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Bread-kun reminded me of the cotton swabs in Don Hertfeldt's film Rejected.

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I get this is supposed to be a world that's post-apoc or taken over
It's not post-apocalyptic; it's post-singularity
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Old 2012-07-02, 09:37   Link #78
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The Cons is the world. If they go for heavy social commentary that isn't just played for absurdest laughs, this series is going to fail and fail hard. And I say that for 1 very specific reason: they've yet to show a character that survives a week in that world. (With the possible exception of the MC's Grandfather)

I get this is supposed to be a world that's post-apoc or taken over (all of these characters are likely in a science experiment or playground for the Faires; that seems the obvious hand-waving they'll do), but you don't need book-smarts to survive. You just need a will to do it. Unless we genetically engineer the will to survive out of people, that isn't going away. Thus you've removed the single most basic instinct from the characters in your world. Social commentary attempts won't really work when you've removed the humanity from them. (There's a reason sci-fi likes to use Robots for this type of story)
title can be deceiving
It has heavy social commentaries and there will be more
the premise of the story is
if we strip away all our modern technology and culture (as their world showed), we will know how important they are and how they affect us
how the mankind declined, how they live are not so important

Yes, of course they can survive
Spoiler for normally,:


Do they have the will to live?
I don't think they are not "willing" to survive and "losing humanity"
Can you tell me how you get this idea? Do I miss something?

Spoiler for all these are my assumptions:


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This is worrisome, but I hope the shuffling was done for the purposes of storytelling. In TV series in addition to the need for the coherence of each episode, there is a need to build up anticipation for the next.
Oh! and is there some reason behind translate sensei as mediator?
I am still thinking why they shuffle the story like this and I am also worried about this
Although I really like the 1st ep, I agree it is hard to follow
They just threw viewer into middle of nowhere and I am not pleased with this

Spoiler for translate sensei as mediator:


Edit:
I figure it out
it is arranged by the complexity and seriousness of the story
the light-heart and simple stories in the front (ep 1-6)
and the hardcore at the back (ep 7-10)
and a flashback epilogue (ep 11-12)

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Old 2012-07-02, 10:05   Link #79
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Lol, that was absolutely hilarious. I love the MC's cynical inner thoughts and the bloody bread bit left me in stitches. XD
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Old 2012-07-02, 10:11   Link #80
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I don't feel like I caught most of the humor in this episode. Maybe I'm just not too compatible with dark humor . I also kinda feel like I might not be intelligent enough to catch a lot of the satire. I do enjoy the surrealism and the setting, and I love the main character though, so I don't mind sticking with the series for those. The main character makes the series for me so far.
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