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Old 2012-12-19, 22:59   Link #201
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Right at the start they are revealed;

The Red Saber is the 'silver' Saber, and the Black Saber is the 'golden' saber.

Somewhere along the way Siegfried got turned gold, D:
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Old 2012-12-20, 01:04   Link #202
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Right at the start they are revealed;

The Red Saber is the 'silver' Saber, and the Black Saber is the 'golden' saber.

Somewhere along the way Siegfried got turned gold, D:
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Old 2012-12-20, 06:09   Link #203
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It seem Type Moon cut another servant from Fate/Apocrypha. It might sound disappointed but let’s not go through all that disappoint because I think it has something to do with some servants were cut.

Let see who exactly will appear in Fate/Apocrypha by 100% confirmed:

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Old 2012-12-20, 06:26   Link #204
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^ I hope they keep Atalanta at least, her design was always one of my favorites among the Apocrypha servants.

Not really sad to not see Karna showing up here. Don't really want another broken character a la Gil in here (ugh)

Anyway, I'm pretty sure the Gold and Silver ranks refer to the difference in the level of reverence and fame attached to each to their legends. I mean aside from the fact that Siegfried's legend puts him in a central role and a major driving force in his legend (while Mordred is only semi-important character in Arthurian lore at best), there is also the fact that Siegfried's tale shows him accomplishing many fantastic and impossible feats and by the end he is seen as a tragic and heroic figure, while Mordred's is most famous for his betrayal against the knights of the round table and the rebellion against Arthur. And how he us seen as being a traitor and a cowered in his final moments.

Which honestly makes Mordred even less of a silver saber, or a heroic spirit for that matter but whatever.

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1. are the sabers in this male or female
It's ... both. The Black Saber is male, while the Red Saber is female (sorta)

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2. why is one team filled with the member of the some mage family, i thought only 1 representative from each mage family could participate?
The premise for this war seem to be different from the Fuyuki Grail War, and also the Ygdramillena (or however that is spelled) family are actually comprised of different magi from different families who came togther to try and break away from the Mage's Association and be their own thing.

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3. is this shirou who's a master emiya shirou or not and if it is is his servent saber arturia?
No idea thus far, seems to be a different person (and if this is actually a parallel world to the /Stay Night-verse, Emiya Shirou wouldn't exist since he wouldn't have lost his parents in the fire and Kiritsugu wouldn't have adopted him etc.)

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4. why is jack the ripper london's most notoriuos serial killer and rapist a girl?
Same reason why the King of the Britons and his son are also girls.

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5. where's gil and ekidnu weren't they in this story?
I think you might be confusing this with the other Fate novel, Strange Fake. That's the one with Gil and Enkidu.

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6. when does this story take place?
Presumably after the Third Fuyuki Grail War.
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Old 2012-12-20, 07:24   Link #205
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It takes place after the Third Holy Grail War; they refer to it as a 'sham', an imitation.

Should be the Clock Tower faction hiring freelancers vs the Yggmillennia faction.

'El-Melloi the Second' and 'Bram Nuada-Re Sophia-Ri' are two of the leaders of the Clock Tower faction.
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Old 2012-12-22, 03:46   Link #206
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I think this is a parallel world to canon, like Fate/Extra, and I find myself somewhat eager to see Shirou as a Master once again.

But overall I have conflicting feelings about Jack the Ripper. On one hand, I pity her backstory. On the other...she's Jack the Ripper, an infamous killer...that devours human soul now.

Still, I give credit where its due. Her former Master, who got what he deserved, had the right idea on surpassing the limitations of the Assassin Class.
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Old 2012-12-22, 07:02   Link #207
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I think this is a parallel world to canon, like Fate/Extra, and I find myself somewhat eager to see Shirou as a Master once again.
I'm pretty sure it's a parallel timeline at the very least; the Holy Grail was stolen from Fuyuki in the third Holy Grail War; the text states that the Holy Grail War was no longer able to be held; the Fourth Holy Grail War would have been held ten years ago from the current time in Apocrypha.
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Old 2012-12-22, 09:35   Link #208
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the Holy Grail was stolen from Fuyuki in the third Holy Grail War; the text states that the Holy Grail War was no longer able to be held
Which really doesn't make sense if you've played Heaven's Feel, since it's not exactly something that can be stolen as far as I can recall. Not to mention the number of people who would even know about the Greater Grail should be limited to basically the Matou, Einzbern, and maybe Tohsaka.
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Old 2012-12-22, 10:20   Link #209
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The Yggmillennia 'stumbled upon it' at Mt Enzou during the third War, got the Nazis they were siding with to help them move the Great Grail, then they double-crossed the Nazis midway and made it seem like it was 'spirited away'. The three families were too exhausted from fighting and got defeated when they tried to stop those dang muggers.

That's about the gist of it.

TLDR version: Some baka gaijins showed up all gangsta-like and made off with the Grail.
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Old 2012-12-26, 13:18   Link #210
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Here's some more translated stuff from beast's Lair:

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Spoiler:
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Old 2012-12-29, 04:36   Link #211
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Image content revealed:

Spoiler for Shirou:


Shirou - Supervisor Church (Servant: Semiramis; Red Assassin)

Spoiler for Homunculus:


Homunculus (Interesting, he is the first male homunculus in Fate series)

Spoiler for Spoiler:

Chiron and new servant (?)

The bad news is St.George (Rider) were cut by new servant, can’t confirm this one. I guess Chiron (bottom) is actually Rider and above is Archer (?)

Spoiler for Shakespeare!!!!:


Spoiler for Astolfo:


Here we go again - List of confirmation Servants and Masters:

Black Faction

Siegfried (Black Saber) - Gordes
Vlad III (Black Lancer) - Danik
??? (Chiron, Atalanta, David or new servant (?) Black Archer) - Fiore
Astolfo (Black Rider) - Selenik
??? (Solomon (?) Black Caster) - Rouche
??? (Frankenstein (?) Black Berserker) - Cowles
Jack The Ripper (Black Assassin) - Reika
Red Faction

Mordred (Red Saber) - Shishi
??? (Red Lancer) - ???
??? (Chiron, Atalanta, David or new servant (?) Red Archer) - ???
??? (St.George or Chiron, if his Noble Phantasm change into centaur/nymph might fit descrption in Rider classes (?) Red Rider) - ???
Shakespeare (Red Caster) - ???
Spartacus (Red Berserker) - ???
Semiramis (Red Assassin) - Shirou
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Old 2012-12-29, 05:43   Link #212
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Old 2012-12-29, 10:47   Link #213
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Is it true that this Shirou is called Shirou Kotomine? That would certainly explain why he's with the church.

I think I need a new pair of pants.
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Old 2012-12-29, 11:01   Link #214
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Is it true that this Shirou is called Shirou Kotomine? That would certainly explain why he's with the church.
Yes, it's true. And apparently he is even married.
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Old 2012-12-29, 11:22   Link #215
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"Saber of 'Red'" is Mordred, right? Wasn't the previous image of her (sorry, but no matter how much she proclaims to be a dude, dudes don't wear tube tops) one that had pink hair? Granted, blonde hair makes more sense (and sticks with canon), but I guess that means she dyes it at some point?

Also, her general look and demeanor remind me of Cal from Phantom.
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Old 2012-12-29, 11:26   Link #216
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"Saber of 'Red'" is Mordred, right? Wasn't the previous image of her (sorry, but no matter how much she proclaims to be a dude, dudes don't wear tube tops) one that had pink hair? Granted, blonde hair makes more sense (and sticks with canon), but I guess that means she dyes it at some point?

Also, her general look and demeanor remind me of Cal from Phantom.
I don't remember having seen her with pink hair. Aren't you mixing her up with Astolfo, who does have pink hair?
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Old 2012-12-29, 11:31   Link #217
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Damn, this thread was hard to find, but what a nice reward! a lot of good stuff are already in here.
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Yes, it's true. And apparently he is even married.
D-don't tell me it's Karen ...
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Old 2012-12-29, 11:33   Link #218
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I don't remember having seen her with pink hair. Aren't you mixing her up with Astolfo, who does have pink hair?
After checking TypeMoon Wiki, yes. I thought he had been labeled as a Saber previously.

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D-don't tell me it's Karen ...
That's probably likely. However, if so it means he likely wasn't raised by Kirei, but rather just took their family name (I guess because they have a higher social ranking), meaning we'd see Shirou as he would've been without Kiritsugu's influence.

Or, they could have just come up with a reason for his family to die and he gets adopted by Kirei. In which case he'd probably act more like Karen than Kirei anyway, since Kirei didn't go total Sadist/Troll until meeting Gil, which wouldn't have happened here.
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Old 2012-12-29, 11:43   Link #219
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D-don't tell me it's Karen ...
According to initial translations, his wife is
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Old 2012-12-29, 11:49   Link #220
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According to initial translations, his wife is
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Well, I'm glad Shirou is still a "nice guy" when it comes to those things.

And the lucky guy got Semiramis? ... I hope he doesn't get castrated though.
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