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GundamZZ · 2013-01-05, 20:14

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Originally Posted by fukarming

btw, it seems the real world of Karuta is always dominated by one player until that player voluntarily retired. The most recent Meijin has won 14 years in a row and I think he will retire and not play next year. So Haruka probably just give up her title without losing.

Some real world Karuta game by Meijin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRm4UB2z7E8

Actually, both meijin and queen have similarity to the real life meijin and queen. The real life meijin started Karuta during his college year. Unlike the meijin in manga, he graduated from college and became a salaryman. The real life queen started Karuta during her middle school. She won her first title during the last year of her middle school. She also graduated from college and became an office lady.
The high school karuta competition has few similarity in real life. However, the champion high school in the real life is losing its edge. Another high school is taking the lead. According to one observer, one high school girl cried after losing the match. It showed that she was passionate about the game.

I hope that anime will close its story loop hole. It skipped the interaction between Shinobu and Suo. It also skipped the interaction between Suo and Taichi.

karice67 · 2013-01-07, 19:37

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Originally Posted by Blaat

Spoilers for 105 are out a certain rather illegal manga site (so no link) and it looks like

Spoiler for 105:

More brief spoilers (since raw scans are now available...):

Spoiler for chapter 105 brief summary:

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Originally Posted by Blaat

So with the second season starting in two weeks where do you guys think the second season will end? The first season covered 50 chapters aiming for the end of the school year with (lots of?) skipping and rushing at the end.
Currently there are are no real good cutting off points, do you think they'll include the current fight? It would make for a dramatic conclusion to the series.

Hm...personally, I thought that the end of the summer (#somewhere from chapters #92 to #93), either before or after the karuta camp might be appropriate...though straight after the nationals might be as well. The former would leave viewers with a pretty frustrating cliffhanger re: the triangle, so the latter might be better in some respects...

Blaat · 2013-01-12, 09:32

Thanks for the spoilers Karice, the conversation between Arata and Taichi sounds a lot different than what the initial spoilers have implied.

Spoilers for 106 are out

Spoiler for 106:

Anyway after watching the first episode I definitely think they'll include the individual high school tournament. It matches perfectly with Chihaya's desire she proclaimed in the first episode.

karice67 · 2013-01-12, 16:39

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Originally Posted by Blaat

Spoilers for 106 are out

Spoiler for 106:

Wow, that's pretty early. The magazine is meant to be out on Tuesday.

Spoiler for chapter 106 spoilers:

Blaat · 2013-02-01, 03:49

Japanese raw of 107 is out

Spoiler for 107:

karice67 · 2013-02-04, 00:34

I only briefly skimmed over it, but...

Spoiler for chapter 107 spoilers:

Blaat · 2013-02-04, 04:11

Karice, as always, thank you for the added translation.

I was really curious about the confrontation between Suou and Arata.
I'm guessing Suou doesn't have time to reach the Eastern qualifiers?

EliteF22 · 2013-02-09, 18:42

Hmm, Arata having trouble concentrating in the previous chapter and now him stating that winning the meijin is no longer his goal seems like foreshadowing. Wouldn't be surprised if Arata had some major health issue come up. Taichi striving to become a doctor would tie in with that. Instead of chasing after Arata he would be trying to keep him moving with them. Seems like a logical evolution of their friendship beyond Karuta.

GundamZZ · 2013-02-11, 00:37

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Originally Posted by EliteF22

Hmm, Arata having trouble concentrating in the previous chapter and now him stating that winning the meijin is no longer his goal seems like foreshadowing. Wouldn't be surprised if Arata had some major health issue come up. Taichi striving to become a doctor would tie in with that. Instead of chasing after Arata he would be trying to keep him moving with them. Seems like a logical evolution of their friendship beyond Karuta.

Winning the champion is still Arata's goal. His mind is not stable, because Arata tells Taichi that Chihaya doesn't belong to anyone. Afterward, he regrets about his statement. He is bothered by it.
His health issue is minor. Because the girl next door feeds him too many food, Arata has the bad stomach. He uses the restroom before the qualifying match.
Again, winning is Arata's goal. He makes the statement because of the circumstance. At the match, Suo takes Shinobu to visit the match(on motorcycle). Suo notices that Shinobu is watching Arata. He asks her if Arata is her friend. She says Arata is the river in the way(邪魔な河). So, Suo watches Arata's match. After the match, Suo tells Arata will become meijin someday. Arata is embarrassed. He humbly replies not at all. Then, Suo taunts Arata and tells him that Arata's not good enough. This year, Suo declares that he's retiring. Suo thinks Arata's skill is boring. Is manga playing with their ambiguous relationship?

By the way, Arata is surprised that Taichi is at the qualifier match, too. As other people, Arata thinks Taichi's only reason for playing karuta is Chihaya. Again, Taichi's mother is scary.

Kazu-kun · 2013-02-11, 06:41

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Originally Posted by GundamZZ

After the match, Suo tells Arata will become meijin someday. Arata is embarrassed. He humbly replies not at all. Then, Suo taunts Arata and tells him that Arata's not good enough. This year, Suo declares that he's retiring. Suo thinks Arata's skill is boring. Is manga playing with their ambiguous relationship?

The way I understood this is that Suo said Arata's play lacks tension. I think he means Arata's current play is kinda passionless, and that's why she doesn't see him as a threat right now.

Maybe Suo is right, maybe Arata's mind being currently unstable (due to Chihaya and Taichi) is affecting his play negatively.

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Originally Posted by GundamZZ

By the way, Arata is surprised that Taichi is at the qualifier match, too. As other people, Arata thinks Taichi's only reason for playing karuta is Chihaya.

And like most people, he's wrong about Taichi.

karice67 · 2013-02-11, 07:37

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Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

The way I understood this is that Suo said Arata's play lacks tension. I think he means Arata's current play is kinda passionless, and that's why she doesn't see him as a threat right now.

I generally agree with your inference that the lack of passion in Arata's play is a hugely important factor, but with regards to what Suou said, the "テンション上がらない" part is more about how Suou reacts rather than Arata's style of play. Basically, "Watching you doesn't make me tense" or "Watching you doesn't get a rise out of me" (lit. "my spirits don't rise") - i.e. although Shinobu and many other players feel threatened by Arata, Suou doesn't.

hyperborealis · 2013-02-16, 22:00

Huge debate on other websites over

Spoiler for spoiler for #105:

Could anyone who knows Japanese comment? Thanks!

Johnny · 2013-02-16, 22:09

Here's karice's post up above with a brief summary...
http://forums.animesuki.com/showthre...73#post4503773

GundamZZ · 2013-03-02, 17:59

The voice actor's joke.

Because Arata seldom shows up, the big sisters don't recognize the voice actor for Arata.

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While Chihaya on the highschool graduation trip, the qualifier match is on going. In the eastern qualifier competition, Taichi loses the competition. Harada sensei finally enters the final. His opponent is Sudo! It would be the competition between old generation and young rising player. In the western qualifier, Shinobu thinks Arata is going to win. Also, she's hungry. So, she secretly praises Arata and leaves the building. Arata finally enters the final, but his bad stomach kicks in again. During the match, he has to run to the restroom. When he comes back to the match, he finds that he is on the losing side.

Finally, Arata and Megumu become West Japan's representative. Harada sensei is also near his dream. He finally has the chance to challenge the karuta master...he is almost there. It would be hard for Chihaya. She has to choose the person for cheering.

2013-01-12, 09:32	Link #143
Blaat Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004	Thanks for the spoilers Karice, the conversation between Arata and Taichi sounds a lot different than what the initial spoilers have implied. Spoilers for 106 are out Spoiler for 106: Apparently this will be Taichi's final chance at trying for Mejin title, next year he can't play as he has to fully prepare for medical school and to make matter worse he does have a fever. Honestly they should rename the manga to Taichi's suffering, a much more accurate description. Having said that it did made me appreciate Taichi's line "She (Chihaya) doesn't realise how precious time is" in the first episode of the second season. Sounds like they're foreshadowing this. Anyway after watching the first episode I definitely think they'll include the individual high school tournament. It matches perfectly with Chihaya's desire she proclaimed in the first episode. __________________ MyAnimeList

2013-02-01, 03:49	Link #145
Blaat Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004	Japanese raw of 107 is out Spoiler for 107: Looks like the mejin and shinobu will visit the Western qualifiers. Arata speaks with Suou. - In the Eastern qualifiers Taichi sees Sudo, we find out that Fujisaki's sensei is competing for the Queen's match and Taichi's mom finds out that Taichi is at the qualifiers, and she is not happy about it, not one bit.' I don't read a word Japanese so I have no idea what they're actually saying. I'm interested to know what Suou said to Arata and I think Sudo will compete after Taichi says its okay. Hopefully someone who reads Japanese will clarify it for a bit. @karice67; It looks like you're correct about Taichi not being sick, he doesn't really look sick at all. __________________ MyAnimeList

2013-02-04, 00:34	Link #146
karice67 さっく♥ゆうきゃん♥ほそやん Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: in the land down under ^^	I only briefly skimmed over it, but... Spoiler for chapter 107 spoilers: the interesting parts of this chapter were raised by Suou, who, upon showing up to the Western prelims with Shinobu, declares that he'll win a fifth straight Meijin title (which would be this year) and then retire. Whilst there's a great deal of noise from many people present, Arata decides that it doesn't matter to him, because becoming Meijin was a promise he made with his grandfather. But then, after his first match, which he won quite handily, Suou goes up to him and observes that whilst Arata will become Meijin one day, it won't be this year, because he (Suou) doesn't feel any threat from him. Just as Tsuboguchi noted the first time they met... but ouch... __________________ You must free yourself from that illusion, from the illusion that a story must have a beginning and an end. "No, you are not entitled to your opinion... You are only entitled to what you can argue for.” - Patrick Stokes

2013-02-04, 04:11	Link #147
Blaat Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004	Karice, as always, thank you for the added translation. I was really curious about the confrontation between Suou and Arata. I'm guessing Suou doesn't have time to reach the Eastern qualifiers? __________________ MyAnimeList

2013-02-16, 22:00	Link #152
hyperborealis Lost at Sea Join Date: Mar 2010	Huge debate on other websites over Spoiler for spoiler for #105: who says "Chihaya doesn't belong to anyone" Could anyone who knows Japanese comment? Thanks! __________________ . A Blossoming Flower in the Snowy Winter

2013-02-09, 18:42	Link #148
EliteF22 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	Hmm, Arata having trouble concentrating in the previous chapter and now him stating that winning the meijin is no longer his goal seems like foreshadowing. Wouldn't be surprised if Arata had some major health issue come up. Taichi striving to become a doctor would tie in with that. Instead of chasing after Arata he would be trying to keep him moving with them. Seems like a logical evolution of their friendship beyond Karuta.

2013-02-16, 22:09	Link #153
Johnny Exercising is great! Join Date: Mar 2009	Here's karice's post up above with a brief summary... http://forums.animesuki.com/showthre...73#post4503773

2013-03-02, 17:59	Link #154
GundamZZ 残念美人 Join Date: Oct 2004	The voice actor's joke. Because Arata seldom shows up, the big sisters don't recognize the voice actor for Arata. Images Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload? While Chihaya on the highschool graduation trip, the qualifier match is on going. In the eastern qualifier competition, Taichi loses the competition. Harada sensei finally enters the final. His opponent is Sudo! It would be the competition between old generation and young rising player. In the western qualifier, Shinobu thinks Arata is going to win. Also, she's hungry. So, she secretly praises Arata and leaves the building. Arata finally enters the final, but his bad stomach kicks in again. During the match, he has to run to the restroom. When he comes back to the match, he finds that he is on the losing side. Finally, Arata and Megumu become West Japan's representative. Harada sensei is also near his dream. He finally has the chance to challenge the karuta master...he is almost there. It would be hard for Chihaya. She has to choose the person for cheering. __________________ 流麗のヒステリア Hysteria of flowing beautifully 三つ腕のリヒティ Lichty of three arms 重剣のクロエ Chloe of giant sword 天啓のシスティーナ Sistina of Apocalypse 愛憎のロクサーヌ Roxanne of distinguished love and hate 万有のルテーシア Lutécia of everything 塵喰いのカサンドラ Cassandra of eating dust Last edited by GundamZZ; 2013-04-15 at 22:55.