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Old 2012-06-02, 09:34   Link #1481
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And then there are those who are at ∞ points.
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Old 2012-06-02, 09:37   Link #1482
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Old 2012-06-02, 14:40   Link #1483
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Did I see that right? Did the preview state something about
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Oh no... i hate that........

and just after a quite boring "virtual reality" episode... i really think we reached the worst part of this series... well at least it is not at the end, so the episode after that may skyrocket the series again xD
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Old 2012-06-02, 14:46   Link #1484
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Could someone please tell me what anime (or western TV series) has made people so averse to body-switching stories? The only one I can recall is "switched" episode 7 of Teen Titans (which might not be considered an anime, but the story itself was heartwarming IMO). The only other body-switch I recall is in a recent manga k-on antologies, which was pretty bland but nothing else.
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Old 2012-06-02, 14:50   Link #1485
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I still appreciate the concept. It's just the idiom "walk a mile in another person's shoes" taken to literal (and supernatural) extremes, and it's a good chance for the voice actors to have fun playing a different role for a week. The only downside I can think of is that it might get confusing to talk about the characters, as you have to specify the personality and the host body, but it's not that different from the other fantasy/high technology plots like invisibility or cloning.
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Old 2012-06-02, 14:55   Link #1486
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That's some sononium you're packin', Captain.
More like Otouto-nium.

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Old 2012-06-02, 15:16   Link #1487
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Could someone please tell me what anime (or western TV series) has made people so averse to body-switching stories? The only one I can recall is "switched" episode 7 of Teen Titans (which might not be considered an anime, but the story itself was heartwarming IMO). The only other body-switch I recall is in a recent manga k-on antologies, which was pretty bland but nothing else.
You want examples? There are hundreds. See here. And here when it's done with deliberate, malicious intent.
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Old 2012-06-02, 15:36   Link #1488
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You want examples? There are hundreds. See here. And here when it's done with deliberate, malicious intent.
I admit I have seen only a few of the listed anime/manga, but none of them seem atrocious judging from the synopsys. I am surprised because I understand people dislike certain genres (I do not see sports anime, unless it is mixed with something I MUST see or the sports aspect is too diluted to be of any relevance); but it is the first time I have seen proof of people disliking one type of story/plot
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Old 2012-06-02, 15:46   Link #1489
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I've just seen body-swaps soooooo many times, and 99.9% of the time the same sort of hijinks will ensue, the same sort of events will occur, and the same "lesson" will be learned from it. I'm really really really really really really really really sick of the whole thing. Especially since, frankly, I don't think it's that great of a plot idea in the first place. I don't know why so many shows latch on to it.
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Old 2012-06-02, 16:16   Link #1490
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I've just seen body-swaps soooooo many times, and 99.9% of the time the same sort of hijinks will ensue, the same sort of events will occur, and the same "lesson" will be learned from it. I'm really really really really really really really really sick of the whole thing. Especially since, frankly, I don't think it's that great of a plot idea in the first place. I don't know why so many shows latch on to it.
"Lesson"?

You seem to be confusing this anime for some educational program. This is just a way for the voice actors to have fun and act out of character, the same way such episodes in a TV live action allow actors to act insane. No lessons here.
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Old 2012-06-02, 16:25   Link #1491
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"Lesson"?

You seem to be confusing this anime for some educational program. This is just a way for the voice actors to have fun and act out of character, the same way such episodes in a TV live action allow actors to act insane. No lessons here.
Would you prefer "aesop" as the term instead? To quote the TVTropes page I linked "Typically, a deeper appreciation of the other's life is attained."

Now, it's true that in the case of Haiyore! Nyaruko-san, the main purpose is just to be crazy, but judging from the past tropes they've played with, they will pretend to make the characters gain that deeper appreciation for each others' lives anyway, no matter how patently ridiculous it might be.

That is not, however, the point. The confusion was over why people disliked body-swap stories in general, and I answered. The dislike for the whole concept has become strong enough that even when they're done well, or differently, I still can no longer stand them.
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Old 2012-06-02, 16:34   Link #1492
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What about when the entire premise of the show is body-switching?
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Old 2012-06-02, 17:03   Link #1493
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What about when the entire premise of the show is body-switching?
I've read about a few of those, but never seen any reason to try watching one.
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Old 2012-06-02, 18:44   Link #1494
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I don't know why, but Dragon Ball Z is the main reason for me... The things is it was not used once, but TWICE (with the second one being completly irrelevant to the plot...) when it happened there, i never wanted to see it used anywhere, ever again. Also when i watched Dragon Ball Kai, i skipped that part...
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Old 2012-06-02, 23:23   Link #1495
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Would you prefer "aesop" as the term instead? To quote the TVTropes page I linked "Typically, a deeper appreciation of the other's life is attained."

Now, it's true that in the case of Haiyore! Nyaruko-san, the main purpose is just to be crazy, but judging from the past tropes they've played with, they will pretend to make the characters gain that deeper appreciation for each others' lives anyway, no matter how patently ridiculous it might be.

That is not, however, the point. The confusion was over why people disliked body-swap stories in general, and I answered. The dislike for the whole concept has become strong enough that even when they're done well, or differently, I still can no longer stand them.
Your choice. But I still don't think this is any more logical than those who refuse to watch any anime that featured a highschool because "there are too many highschool anime series". I can't help but feel your explanation isn't the real reason for your rage, but I will leave the matter alone.
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Old 2012-06-03, 05:53   Link #1496
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What about when the entire premise of the show is body-switching?
Think of Kokoro Connect.

However, I wonder why most people hate the body switching plot device (not just Random Wanderer I swear) ?
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Old 2012-06-03, 07:26   Link #1497
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I didn't know that the body exchange is this common let alone that people don't like it that much. I remember a few examples but I had no problem with episodes dedicated to body change and half of them were more like possessing instead of exchanging. I honestly find them more interesting than beach, onsen or developing episodes that end in memory erasure (last one didn't count because Nyaruko remembers). Especially for Haiyore I think it's great fuel for chaos.
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Old 2012-06-04, 10:57   Link #1498
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Episode 08

A little late here, but that episode 08 was hilarious fun with the parodies, somebody did their homework because it all made sense Tuga-sama ga Miteru, Nyarko's VA is Working again, and it just had to happen: that Bridget Hasta, who didn't see that coming

I most especially wanted to talk about Yoriko, I'm so glad she's getting the spotlight she has been getting, throughout all those years of anime, I couldn't help but laugh every time parents are conveniently written out of the story, but I tell you folks, I can't imagine this series without some Yoriko, ah I actually find myself thinking I might take that route if I was in that game

But Luhy-chan was shafted, shafted I say! Just a hologram in the game, why didn't she join the fun, now that's a route I would have taken in a heartbeat

Last but not least, I want to mention most of all that I got to see Normal Nyarko, Twintail Nyarko, and Ponytail Nyarko all in one ep! They can't top that anymore.... unless there's an ep with Nyarko clones, at the beach, and.... *nosebleed*

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Old 2012-06-04, 13:02   Link #1499
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Nyarko 09 - Isuka's Loveariffic Switcheroo

The Dagomon franchise in this universe is sending me mixed messages. Cuko's little word bubble of it clearly resembled Pokemon Black and White, but the poster seen later in the episode was a homage to Digimon Adventure. (And if any one of those kids had a Dagomon, then my pity on them.) The whole scene in the department store was fun, with the old Mahiro -> Nyarko -> Cuko chain of events playing out in perfect sync. And it gave us Cuko in lingerie, no arguments here. Evil Luhy was also fun.

I am an idiot. That's not a gun, it's a Super 8 camera. There was a whole anime with one of those, and I own one and made use of it very recently. I really shouldn't have made that mistake. The gun may not have been a gun, but Tamao wasn't Tamao either. (I get the feeling this Isuka is referring not to a crossbill, unlike the other one I'm currently experiencing). That Dreamlands subplot has been ignored for some time, so glad that's finally back in the spotlight.

I've rarely, if ever, heard Kana Asumi try to affect a male voice, so having her and Eri Kitamura exchange roles for a day did prove to be a lot of fun. (And we got another Madoka gag out of Kitamura in the preview.) Nyarko's enjoying having a wang way too much. Mahiro has enough control over Nyarko's body to not unleash the hidden tentacles and mouths of doom, at the very least. As for the cliffhanger...

Mahiro's fine with going out with her, but it's a little too early for marriage. No idea where this subplot is going to go, but let's finish the series off with a bang.
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Old 2012-06-04, 13:18   Link #1500
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Finished watching episode 9 :
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