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Old 2013-05-25, 23:43   Link #4601
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Yakumo is more skilled in hand to hand combat due to more experience. He likely wouldn't be able to defeat Tatsuya in a serious fight that included magic.
Tatsuya surpassed yakumo in pure hand to hand combat. Its the experience that gives yakumo the edge.
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Old 2013-05-25, 23:48   Link #4602
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Pretty sure Tatsuya is just barely keeping up with Yakumo in taijustu from their spar in volume 1. Though that in itself is a big achievement according to the other students in the dojo.
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Old 2013-05-25, 23:54   Link #4603
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i have a question couldnt tatsuya coat himself in decomposition like he did to his hand when he chopped off the guys wrist so he would be invulnerable to physical attacks?
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Old 2013-05-26, 00:22   Link #4604
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Pretty sure Tatsuya is just barely keeping up with Yakumo in taijustu from their spar in volume 1. Though that in itself is a big achievement according to the other students in the dojo.
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Old 2013-05-26, 00:31   Link #4605
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In the vampire arc, Yakumo demonstrated magic that could fool Tatsuya's Elemental Sight and it has been stated that Yakumo has been able to repeatedly sneak up on Tatsuya despite his Elemental Sight. Tatsuya can't use magic against what he can't see. In any case, Yakumo is the only person that has a chance of winning against Tatsuya.
Except that he lacks the power to instantly kill Tatsuya. And Tatsuya learned to see through and target enemies using that magic.
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Old 2013-05-26, 00:38   Link #4606
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Except that he lacks the power to instantly kill Tatsuya. And Tatsuya learned to see through and target enemies using that magic.
Says who? as far as I know we havn't seen a full dispay of his power, so he may have an instant kill move. I also seriously doubt Yakumo gave away his last trick against a person... He seems a bit more cautious than that.
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Old 2013-05-26, 01:05   Link #4607
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In the vampire arc, Yakumo demonstrated magic that could fool Tatsuya's Elemental Sight and it has been stated that Yakumo has been able to repeatedly sneak up on Tatsuya despite his Elemental Sight. Tatsuya can't use magic against what he can't see. In any case, Yakumo is the only person that has a chance of winning against Tatsuya.
even if he could sneak up on Tatsuya, he has no way to get past Tatsuya's regeneration. he'd get a hit in, it'd immediately regenerate and then Tatsuya would vaporize him since he knew where he was then. Probably the only thing currently able to kill Tatsuya is if he was hit by his own material burst.
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Old 2013-05-26, 01:41   Link #4608
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even if he could sneak up on Tatsuya, he has no way to get past Tatsuya's regeneration. he'd get a hit in, it'd immediately regenerate and then Tatsuya would vaporize him since he knew where he was then. Probably the only thing currently able to kill Tatsuya is if he was hit by his own material burst.
Well, if Tatsuya was hit in the head, he would probably die. So technically, anybody can kill Tatsuya with a sneak attack if they were lucky/well-informed enough.
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Old 2013-05-26, 02:10   Link #4609
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Well, if Tatsuya was hit in the head, he would probably die. So technically, anybody can kill Tatsuya with a sneak attack if they were lucky/well-informed enough.
not necessarily. I've seen cases where people were shot in the head an still survive meaning death isn't always immediate. probably not fast enough to escape Tatsuya's regeneration. It's not exactly possible to do tests where you shoot a human in the head and read how long the brain continues to have activity for. There are laws to prevent that.
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Old 2013-05-26, 03:15   Link #4610
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not necessarily. I've seen cases where people were shot in the head an still survive meaning death isn't always immediate. probably not fast enough to escape Tatsuya's regeneration. It's not exactly possible to do tests where you shoot a human in the head and read how long the brain continues to have activity for. There are laws to prevent that.
Its not that death is immediate(although it is in most cases), but that damage to the area of the brain that uses magic would screw with the restoration itself.
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Old 2013-05-26, 07:27   Link #4611
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Its not that death is immediate(although it is in most cases), but that damage to the area of the brain that uses magic would screw with the restoration itself.
And where exactly did it say that? Has any limitation on his magic ever been confirmed?
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Old 2013-05-26, 12:08   Link #4612
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I read somewhere that if you behead someone his brain stays alive for about 7 seconds.
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Old 2013-05-26, 18:45   Link #4614
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Old 2013-05-26, 19:13   Link #4615
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And where exactly did it say that? Has any limitation on his magic ever been confirmed?
There are limitations to his Regrowth. It can't bring back the dead and like all magic it requires his MPZ to use. If Yakumo destroys his MPZ zone, then Tatsuya's screwed no matter how you dice it. In fact, if you think about it, all his Regrowth allows him to do is fight at full strength. Any damage that doesn't kill him will not hinder his ability to fight, which is no small advantage. But he can most certainly be defeated. For instance, poisoning. Certain snake venom kill instantly and while Tatsuya's Regrowth has been shown to work against chemical attacks in volume 6 it was only after sleeping gas had begun to take effect that Regrowth kicked in. Snake venom also work by paralyzing the nerves preventing electical impulses from being sent, which is essential to cast any magic.

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I read somewhere that if you behead someone his brain stays alive for about 7 seconds.
Well, it is fact that the brain can survive for a time after death.

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Old 2013-05-26, 19:16   Link #4616
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Well, it is fact that the brain can survive for a time after death.
Yup unless one dies of a brain crushing or something. Like:

excessive damage to the brain stem (e.g., from a hangman's fracture) can cause instant death due to destruction of the reticular activating system and various other control centers. Severing the cord below the level of the brain stem, but above or in the origin of the phrenic nerve (C3, C4, C5) causes death several minutes later due to asphyxiation
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Old 2013-05-26, 19:38   Link #4617
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Yup unless one dies of a brain crushing or something. Like:

excessive damage to the brain stem (e.g., from a hangman's fracture) can cause instant death due to destruction of the reticular activating system and various other control centers. Severing the cord below the level of the brain stem, but above or in the origin of the phrenic nerve (C3, C4, C5) causes death several minutes later due to asphyxiation
(borrowed from wiki answers)

And thanks for the update on Sashiko
Speaking of which, I'd really like to see Tatsuya's body destroyed with only his brain remaining and watch his Regrowth kick in.
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Old 2013-05-26, 19:53   Link #4618
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Speaking of which, I'd really like to see Tatsuya's body destroyed with only his brain remaining and watch his Regrowth kick in.
One question though, assuming that his re-growth does kick in, where does the materials to rebuild his body come from?
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Old 2013-05-26, 20:03   Link #4619
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One question though, assuming that his re-growth does kick in, where does the materials to rebuild his body come from?
magic....

Seeing as how you can't destoy matter and can merely change the state of it...i think... he would just return the eidos of the altered matter to it's original state... I honestly have no idea what i'm talking about so i'll just go with my first answer

Magic...
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Old 2013-05-26, 20:20   Link #4620
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One question though, assuming that his re-growth does kick in, where does the materials to rebuild his body come from?
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magic....

Seeing as how you can't destoy matter and can merely change the state of it...i think... he would just return the eidos of the altered matter to it's original state... I honestly have no idea what i'm talking about so i'll just go with my first answer

Magic...
No. The materials are already there. Just as energy cannot be created or destroyed neither can matter. Recall when Tatsuya used Regrowth on Isori and Kirihara, the bloodstains vanished along with their wounds. The blood on their clothes returned to their bodies. Get it? When Tatsuya's arm was vaporized by Lina's Heavy Metal burst, the particles which made up his arm were scattered, not destroyed. When Tatsuya used Regrowth on it, those particles returned to form his arm.

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EDIT: Sick. So this is where the Yotsuba went wrong. The Yotsuba now and the Yotsuba then are clearly different in terms of family ties.

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