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Old 2013-09-22, 16:02   Link #6781
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Still seems like a weaksauce limiter considering Miyuki has to spend half her power restraining just that much.
Yeah, cause dams are made from straw and feathers.
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Old 2013-09-22, 20:41   Link #6782
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Who said she couldn't?

Being a BS magician only means that their brains specialize in one magic above all others. It doesn't mean they can't cast other magics. (With the exception of Tatsuya, pre-operation.) They can cast them just fine, just probably slower than regular magicians.

But even IF that were the case, it would still make sense. The BS magician already mastered their magic. What is a magic highschool going to teach them? The spells they can't cast?
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Why should't they be able to do that?
I thinkk the can enter, but other persons have better chance then them because the can use magic normally witin some limitations.
ah, you're right.
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BS Magicians, also known as BS ability users, could also be called innate ability users or innate magic specialists. This was because they excelled at a particular ability, but because of this extreme specialization, they were unable to use magic techniques like other Magicians of the same level.

As could be seen from the malicious label "the 101 tricks of BS users", BS Magicians occupied a lower social stratum than normal Magicians, but their unique ability was practically impossible for other people to imitate. Even if someone could accomplish this, they were unable to replicate the same level of quality BS users were capable of. If properly matched with their specialty, they often outperformed the generic "omnipotent" Magicians.
of course their ability is so bad.
and maybe that's so difficult to enter first high - third high.
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Old 2013-09-22, 23:10   Link #6783
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Still seems like a weaksauce limiter considering Miyuki has to spend half her power restraining just that much.
In part I would wager it keeps him from being able to use MB so she his launch codes. And likely exists for governmental benefit rather then for the Yotsuba
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Old 2013-09-23, 00:35   Link #6784
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I don't believe that the seal limit Tatsuya inteligence in any way due to mental interference but rather than to place the seal in the first place MI magic is requiered.
About what it's the purpose, my baseless wess it's that the seal meddle with his calculation area (the normal one, not the artificial) forcing like Rasen said (although i dunno if for the same reason) how much psions can control at one time and maybe his multitasking ability (when was shot by the sniper, although he didn't use magic practically all his attention was in tracing the bullet "past" while fighting against the Asian Alliance invasion he was in a constant state of elemental sight to detect attacks, reading hurt soldiers "pasts" and casting both mist dispersal and regrowth almost simultanously).
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Old 2013-09-24, 10:22   Link #6785
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well i doubt that the limiter is on tat's psion since for psion's are different then mental interference that miyuki specializes in.
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Old 2013-09-24, 10:40   Link #6786
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Well the first time we "saw" the seal beign lifted Tatsuya sort of became a show of psion light so some relation must be there.
And yeah the second time (pre Lina-Miyuki battle) there wasn't a ligth show but that time the seal was not completely undone.
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Old 2013-09-24, 10:42   Link #6787
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I'm surprised that no one has posted the cover for vol 12 yet

Spoiler for vol 12 cover:
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Old 2013-09-24, 10:48   Link #6788
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Actually it was posted over a week ago (page 330).
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Old 2013-09-24, 10:59   Link #6789
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my bad , I recall it will be released in October? Please correct me if I'm wrong
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Old 2013-09-24, 11:13   Link #6790
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Yes, October, the Thursday 10 i believe.

How many volumes will have double seven arc? 2 as usual or 3 like "visitor".
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Old 2013-09-24, 11:50   Link #6791
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well i doubt that the limiter is on tat's psion since for psion's are different then mental interference that miyuki specializes in.
While it's bad form to cite something that I haven't read yet, I believe there's a picture of Tatsuya at least partially lifting the seal on his own.

Unless you think Tatsuya also specializes in mental interference, it seems more likely the seal is something else.
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Old 2013-09-24, 18:03   Link #6792
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well i doubt that the limiter is on tat's psion since for psion's are different then mental interference that miyuki specializes in.
I think you're misunderstanding something. Psions are pretty much everywhere and the ability of a magician is not to produce psions, but the ability to manipulate them. This is essentially a magician's psion reservoirs. So Miyuki doesn't seal Tatsuya's psions, but part of his ability to manipulate them.
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Old 2013-09-24, 21:03   Link #6793
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I think you're misunderstanding something. Psions are pretty much everywhere and the ability of a magician is not to produce psions, but the ability to manipulate them. This is essentially a magician's psion reservoirs. So Miyuki doesn't seal Tatsuya's psions, but part of his ability to manipulate them.
I thought Miyuki seal Tatsuya's Magic Calculation area......
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Old 2013-09-24, 22:25   Link #6794
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Yes, October, the Thursday 10 i believe.

How many volumes will have double seven arc? 2 as usual or 3 like "visitor".
Currently I can safely say at least 2 based on the progress and the length of chapters in the magazine. It's still ongoing and up to chapter 16 or 17 in the latest (though I haven't finished it yet). It might go to 3 volumes (I'm not sure yet).
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Old 2013-09-24, 23:18   Link #6795
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I think you're misunderstanding something. Psions are pretty much everywhere and the ability of a magician is not to produce psions, but the ability to manipulate them. This is essentially a magician's psion reservoirs. So Miyuki doesn't seal Tatsuya's psions, but part of his ability to manipulate them.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't magicians absorb psions from the environment all the time? And then they use the psions they have stored to cast spells. And when they run out of psions, they can't cast any more magic until they've absorbed enough.

IIRC, Miyuki and Tatsuya's father was poached by the Yotsuba, because he had a large psion capacity, which was then passed down to his kids.
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Old 2013-09-25, 00:35   Link #6796
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Thanks larethian, even though this series new volumes come out fairly quickly when the release day aproach, the time appear to pass curiously slow. Probably only my problem.
About psion, Im not really sure magicians absorb them from their surroundings, in vol. 1 when explaining activation sequences and magic ritual from that time Miyuki cleaned the dirt of her uniform and Tats clothes:
"Mages infuse Psion particles inherent in their bodies into the CAD[...]" (yeah, i have that kind of rotten brain that allow me to remember fairly acurately this kind of thing but has serious flaws in school related things).
Also if the magicians took the psions from outside, there will be no need to rest in order to replenish them.
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Old 2013-09-25, 05:23   Link #6797
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i think they use the psions IN their bodies to influence the ones outside to do their bidding with magic sequences. Kinda like mana instead of chi.
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Old 2013-09-28, 22:41   Link #6798
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For a novel about magic, it is best to have no in depth explanation about the magic, especially when try to explain with real life physic. MKnR used to much real world physic to explain magic which often cause heavy confusion to readers.
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Old 2013-09-29, 00:07   Link #6799
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I just read that the next volume will be short stories and you say that it will be double seven. So Is it sure that it will be the first part of the double seven?
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Old 2013-09-29, 00:20   Link #6800
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But along with the good characters, the exaustive explanations of the magic sistem its one of the most apealing things of the novels.
Although sometimes hard to read trough, personally i find the technicalities a nice way of giving logic to the world i am reading. Not that a novel about teenagers using magic needs logic but i find this rules the author try to set are interesting and give room to surprises.
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