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Old 2012-10-22, 02:39   Link #1381
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Think he's talking about this. Speaking of which, I think the premise for Onii Ai is simply a bit shifted-- Akito is slightly less enthusiastic, while Akiko makes up for it in spades. And Akito is far too unfaithful and charmed by the other ladies. A healthy balance is required in all things!

Tho they should totally start an Imouto club and share pointers. I'm sure Sora would have a lot to say. Cough.
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Old 2012-10-22, 07:55   Link #1382
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miyuki fans, what do you gys think of onii-ai?

more possessive bro-con-ness.


though i'm not sure the main female lead has the same charm that her highness does
I like OniAi since the author plays with clichés and make them no that cliché...

For example, tsundere (though I don't thing that word is being used as it were before) has become too mainstream, so we have a kuudere instead.
The lil' sis has brocon, but that sis actually talk about incest, even with sexual relations and all
How about the childhood friend? Of course there is one... but their story is far interesting that the usual in this kind of stories.

And don't forget the "leader": Kaichou, whom is also an "Arashi"...

I think Miyuki's feelings are clear, and not clear for herself. She somehow try to not think her love as a romantic one, but you can see her often getting jealous, looking for her Onii-sama's attention, and some other things.

Sad thing, I can't see a "happy ending" with the both of them if it keep going like this


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Well, I decided to TL the LN to Spa after getting the last manga chapter (to keep rising the interest in some fans), and it's like hell.

Ch0 and 1 were somehow easy, then chapter 2 was a pain and even more ch.3
What's with that long sentences, and their usual "However" that makes me yell?
I somehow could portray the unusual style, but some words can't be translated in a nice way, so I had to put them in romaji

I was about to take a break... but chapter 4 has a lot of Miyuki, so I kept going on.

Well, my speed is about one volume per week, but I needed three weeks for this series. Now, I feel like my brain has melted.

I think I will work with the last bangai hen of Yuutousei, the After Record, ch 11 manga and take a looong break watching some good anime or so
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Old 2012-10-22, 16:47   Link #1383
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Well, I decided to TL the LN to Spa after getting the last manga chapter (to keep rising the interest in some fans), and it's like hell.

Ch0 and 1 were somehow easy, then chapter 2 was a pain and even more ch.3
What's with that long sentences, and their usual "However" that makes me yell?
I somehow could portray the unusual style, but some words can't be translated in a nice way, so I had to put them in romaji

I was about to take a break... but chapter 4 has a lot of Miyuki, so I kept going on.

Well, my speed is about one volume per week, but I needed three weeks for this series. Now, I feel like my brain has melted.

I think I will work with the last bangai hen of Yuutousei, the After Record, ch 11 manga and take a looong break watching some good anime or so
Mwahahaha, know our suffering and feel our pain!

And yes, the author liberally uses the word "however". I'm pretty sure I'm raiding the thesaurus on a daily basis trying to figure out another way to say regardless, even so, despite that, on the other hand, even though, etc.
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Old 2012-10-22, 16:58   Link #1384
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@Syokool dont try to overwork yourself, idioms are native phrases are so hard to translate in any language. But like Syokool said Onai plays with the cliche stuff but makes it so uniques that its not cliche anymore.
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Old 2012-10-22, 18:24   Link #1385
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@Syokool: Can you tell me more about the After-School Report? I can't open the file. Think its corrupted or something.
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Old 2012-10-22, 18:40   Link #1386
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I'm not into the bro-con, I'm only into the Miyuki Love Love!

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Mwahahaha, know our suffering and feel our pain!

And yes, the author liberally uses the word "however". I'm pretty sure I'm raiding the thesaurus on a daily basis trying to figure out another way to say regardless, even so, despite that, on the other hand, even though, etc.
Still, Contrary to, Ignoring common thought, In spite of normal convention, As if to say "Fuck you" to everyone... the list goes on! The real question is which sound right and which are acceptable

It's my own style, but personally, I like the " ; however," approach, since it offers a toss up in the punctuation as well.
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Old 2012-10-23, 00:08   Link #1387
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I'm not into the bro-con, I'm only into the Miyuki Love Love!


Still, Contrary to, Ignoring common thought, In spite of normal convention, As if to say "Fuck you" to everyone... the list goes on! The real question is which sound right and which are acceptable

It's my own style, but personally, I like the " ; however," approach, since it offers a toss up in the punctuation as well.
I like the last one!

Except I don't think I can find the proper context for that.
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Old 2012-10-23, 00:18   Link #1388
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I do believe the idea of context itself is as good an excuse as any to pull off that line.

Although it would be.. ungentlemanly.
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Old 2012-10-23, 06:55   Link #1389
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Is it fun too watch strong main character destroying everything?
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Old 2012-10-23, 07:39   Link #1390
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Is it fun too watch strong main character destroying everything?
In short, yes.

It depends, though. Perhaps it is the characters overall, perhaps it is the writing, perhaps it is the setting, perhaps it is a change of pace from all those stories where the weak hero grows up super strong or the harem stories, or maybe it is a combination of everything. Even if the idea of an overpowered character is not exactly original, it is more original than the majority of the stuff out there, and while the setting is, once again, not exactly original, it is written in a way that makes it engaging. There are so many mechanics involved, and most of them are explained in detail (oh god, the detail), which makes it all that much more "believable" and engaging.

Personally speaking, I prefer to see his mental prowess over his ability to fight. The Hattori fight was boring. The flight conversation was awesome.
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Old 2012-10-23, 07:45   Link #1391
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Just a thought, are all war-class magicians born-specialists?
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Old 2012-10-23, 08:05   Link #1392
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In short, yes.

Personally speaking, I prefer to see his mental prowess over his ability to fight. The Hattori fight was boring. The flight conversation was awesome.
Agreed. Even if Ive only read summaries.
The Monolith code battle was awesome. Reading about him doing all this impossible stuff as a Technician was better.
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Old 2012-10-23, 10:29   Link #1393
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Just a thought, are all war-class magicians born-specialists?
No. Just look at Angelina in arc 5/6 summaries. BS Magicians are good only in their field and are pretty crap outside of them.
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Old 2012-10-23, 10:30   Link #1394
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Mwahahaha, know our suffering and feel our pain!

And yes, the author liberally uses the word "however". I'm pretty sure I'm raiding the thesaurus on a daily basis trying to figure out another way to say regardless, even so, despite that, on the other hand, even though, etc.
Yeah, I think I have to get used to it.
One thing is read, but TL-ing is a different matter

I must like this series a lot since I haven't dropped it after the first volume. Regardless the weird and complicated stuff, this is pretty good.

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@Syokool dont try to overwork yourself, idioms are native phrases are so hard to translate in any language. But like Syokool said Onai plays with the cliche stuff but makes it so uniques that its not cliche anymore.
I agree, but this series has a weird writing, even in Japanese. The structure of some sentences is quite difficult. I had to read a whole block of text to translate something.

Since I don't believe there is an "ultimate" translation of anything, the only thing I could do is to try to make it the most readable without taking too much liberalities.

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@Syokool: Can you tell me more about the After-School Report? I can't open the file. Think its corrupted or something.
The file is fine, it has 4 pages but I guess it said u there is an error with the name of those images.
I don't want to ruin your enjoy, so if it still gives you problems, pm me to give you the fixed file.

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Is it fun too watch strong main character destroying everything?
I don't think its fun, but it gives you the scale of his powers. In an anime series maybe.

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Just a thought, are all war-class magicians born-specialists?
IIRC there is no that definition, something like "magicians for strategic purposes" or so.

Who knows? Maybe, one common characteristic is that they do have something special that others don't. Like Tatsuya's auto-healing.

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A friend from Mahouka's FB page attended the Dengeki 20th Anniversary and bought Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei's merchandises, Sadly I couldnt, but I made one friend to go to get me those yummies

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Old 2012-10-23, 12:19   Link #1395
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Wow, didn't expect there to be this much merchandise; then again, it was a Dengeki event. I'm not sure why, but that kind of stuff never really interested me, personally. I'd rather see something along the lines of small accessories, like a metal hairclip that matches the one Miyuki wears (plastic seems like it would be too cheap :P) or a small pin with the eight-petal emblem. Artbooks are good, too, obviously. I guess I'm just not a big fan of massive items.
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Old 2012-10-23, 12:54   Link #1396
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It was just a thought, since their magic is unique (or at least can't be copied) compared to other 'normal' magic that can be performed by every magician.
I do know that BS magicians are slow with magic outside their field, though I remember reading in a summary that some magicians exist, who created their own personal spells?
How are they different from BS magicians and do war-class magicians belong to that group?
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Old 2012-10-23, 13:07   Link #1397
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In short, yes.

Perhaps it is the characters overall, perhaps it is the writing, perhaps it is the setting, perhaps it is a change of pace from all those stories where the weak hero grows up super strong or the harem stories, or maybe it is a combination of everything.
This to me, exactly.

It gets so tedious reading all these shounen DBZ style powerup games (take any of the popular series right now like bleach/fairy tale which are the worst offenders) where it's literally "oh ho ho witness the most powerful being in the universe." to which the mc's group gets rocked a little, always survives, then gets a power-up. Then two chapters later another guy pops out with "oh o ho witness the most powerful being in the universe" and rinse and repeat. And then the peers of the MC come out of their hiding places/magically survive (take Yamato from Bleach, he supposedly got pwned by aizen/used a suicide spell and comes back in full strength/stronger) and somehow still talk down to the MC's acting as if they had it all along/are still stronger & the MC still acknowledges it

Futhermore, on the harem subject. It wouldn't be so bad if authors didn't just always give the excuse "oh he's too dense/oblivious". It's like, are you fucking kidding me? For that reason it's really hard for me to like a lot of the popular LN's like IS/Campione!/Onii-Ai/etc.


For those reasons, I like MKnR & STnB
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Old 2012-10-24, 01:24   Link #1398
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In short, yes.

It depends, though. Perhaps it is the characters overall, perhaps it is the writing, perhaps it is the setting, perhaps it is a change of pace from all those stories where the weak hero grows up super strong or the harem stories, or maybe it is a combination of everything. Even if the idea of an overpowered character is not exactly original, it is more original than the majority of the stuff out there, and while the setting is, once again, not exactly original, it is written in a way that makes it engaging. There are so many mechanics involved, and most of them are explained in detail (oh god, the detail), which makes it all that much more "believable" and engaging.

Personally speaking, I prefer to see his mental prowess over his ability to fight. The Hattori fight was boring. The flight conversation was awesome.
Well, here's more for y'all.

Volume 3 Chapter 3 is out.

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Old 2012-10-24, 02:03   Link #1399
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Well, here's more for y'all.

Volume 3 Chapter 3 is out.

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