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Old 2013-05-18, 05:58   Link #6741
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I have a few questions:

Is Verethragna a member of the Gods of Steel?

Why didn't Verethragna used the Ram incarnation after being hit by the White Stallion by Godou?

Can the White Stallion be dodged after the target has been set?
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Old 2013-05-18, 07:43   Link #6742
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Is Verethragna a member of the Gods of Steel?
Yes he was

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Why didn't Verethragna used the Ram incarnation after being hit by the White Stallion by Godou?
Because he died immediately and nothing of his body was left. Godou also canít use the ram when for example his head gets cut of or his brain squashed or when he is burnt to ashes.

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Can the White Stallion be dodged after the target has been set?
Yes it can be dogged. Goudo targeted himself and managed to dodge it with help.
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Old 2013-05-18, 07:56   Link #6743
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Because he died immediately and nothing of his body was left. Godou also canít use the ram when for example his head gets cut of or his brain squashed or when he is burnt to ashes.
Then how did he have a conversation with Melqart and Pandora before he died.
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Old 2013-05-18, 08:06   Link #6744
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That means Godou is in sleeping state (under the effect of ram authority). Thats the only way for Godou to have a conversation with Pandora.
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Old 2013-05-18, 08:13   Link #6745
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Yes he was
ı don't remember Verethragna to be a steel god. if ı remember right he was a god of victory and his roots lie in sun. you can even call him a sun god. but ı don't remember him being a steel god.
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Old 2013-05-18, 08:40   Link #6746
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cant remember either I remember Verethragna being a War God and God of Victory,oh and also you cant call him a Sun God cause it was Mithra/Perseus who was his former master
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Old 2013-05-18, 09:39   Link #6747
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Then how did he have a conversation with Melqart and Pandora before he died.
Because that was in the boundary of life and death. Verethragna was already dead and Godou was "almost" dead which allowed his soul to enter the boundary of Life and death.

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ı don't remember Verethragna to be a steel god. if ı remember right he was a god of victory and his roots lie in sun. you can even call him a sun god. but ı don't remember him being a steel god.
Volume 5 chapter 4 part 1:

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"Speaking of recent events that could have garnered the Old One's interest, how about the incident at Naples? The battle against Perseus."

'Ah yes, Amakasu-san called him the Hero of Steel, right?'

"Yes, Perseus is the archetypical hero of steel with the [Sword] characteristic. Verethragna, who Kusanagi Godou unwittingly defeated, also belongs to the same category."

The ancestor of Verethragna, Mithra, also had a "born from stone" legend. There is also the Armenian war god Vahagn who has been called the brother of Verethragna. The hero god possessing flaming hair and beard, and born from the crimson sea.

Stones, in other words, ore, the origin of iron. Fire, to melt ore. Wind, to start fires and fan the flames. Water, to cool the newly forged metal. The intricate relationships between the elements are all essential to the various sword gods.

'Just like King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table?'

"Exactly. Using the legend of Excalibur as a starting point, there are numerous myths whose essence originated from the tale of the god of steel. To say that the 'Knights of the Round Table originate from Celtic myths' would be oversimplifying things."
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Old 2013-05-18, 09:54   Link #6748
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cant remember either I remember Verethragna being a War God and God of Victory,oh and also you cant call him a Sun God cause it was Mithra/Perseus who was his former master
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"Thou art the first person to usurp mine -- the authority of the god of victory! Becomest stronger than anyone else! Until the day I shall fight thee again, possessest my undefeatable bodywell"
this was written in third volume and said by verethragna. ı think he know what he is better than us and sun god is from somewhere in series which ı can't find. Verethragna was born from sun so ı thought he was a sun god. he became god of war and victory after Mithra became sun god. he just filled his place
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Old 2013-05-18, 11:13   Link #6749
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Spring and winter could simply be part of an authority over the seasons, usurped from a deity such as Demeter.
Demeter sounds about right but that would mean she would posses the over summer and autumn as well. I can see summer as sun kind of power over the sun like the White Stallion but autumn? Maybe she would drown the enemy with dead leaves?.
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Old 2013-05-18, 13:10   Link #6750
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I think the god would be Persephone.
spring and winter should mean authority over life and death too. She probably can call on cerberus ,hydra,chimera and Orthrus since she is the Queen of the underworld.
As for the spring power she may use plants to bind her opponent and as shield?
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Old 2013-05-18, 18:37   Link #6751
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thanks for that quote Hidfe,I actually forgot about that part its been 6months already since I read that
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Old 2013-05-18, 20:21   Link #6752
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If I remember correctly Aisha is 800 years old, not 2000.
Aisha is about 1800 years old, neither 800 nor 2000.
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Old 2013-05-18, 20:23   Link #6753
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Aisha is about 1800 years old, neither 800 nor 2000.
Where do you get that number?
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Old 2013-05-18, 20:56   Link #6754
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Where do you get that number?
Heh if that was the case then why didn't she get killed by the King Of The End who was supposed to exterminate all the Demon King appearing thousand years ago?
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Old 2013-05-18, 21:06   Link #6755
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Where do you get that number?
It's mentioned in the earlier novels. Please read it again. (Couldn't be bothered to give you the specific referencecs )

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Heh if that was the case then why didn't she get killed by the King Of The End who was supposed to exterminate all the Demon King appearing thousand years ago?
That's exactly why she's so special. She's the only campione who has been in the era when the Last King roamed the world yet survived. Besides that, she seems to have good hiding techniques. It's difficult to completely disappear off the radar for a campione, yet she did so for the past 200 years or so.
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Old 2013-05-18, 21:16   Link #6756
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Heh if that was the case then why didn't she get killed by the King Of The End who was supposed to exterminate all the Demon King appearing thousand years ago?
Aisha went into hiding or something. Just because the King of the End kills campiones doesn't mean he can find them wherever they might be.
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Old 2013-05-19, 01:32   Link #6757
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so that means Aisha hides when the King of the End appears a thousand years ago?
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Old 2013-05-19, 01:33   Link #6758
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That's one of the theories , hasn't been confirmed yet. But it's indeed interesting
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Old 2013-05-19, 03:38   Link #6759
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its really intriuging how Aisha survived when King of the End appears a thousand years ago
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Old 2013-05-19, 04:41   Link #6760
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its really intriuging how Aisha survived when King of the End appears a thousand years ago
Well, based upon what we know about Heretic Gods so far ... none of them showed that they are omnipotent.

While, the King of the End, definitaly has some pretty badass abilities that allow him to compete with and find Campione's ... I think that those "authorities" have some weak points.

Aisha probably has an authority that allows her to hide or reduce her presence, which is also something that uses the weak points of the King of the End's authorities, and that managed to allow her to stay alive and hidden for all of those years.

At least that's what I think about this topic, at the moment.
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