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Old 2009-03-30, 19:49   Link #1981
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Wait, all it takes to have sex with school girls in Australia is to buy some chicken nuggets?
Man, that's so wrong and horrible and inhumane and stuff.

....Now Excuse me, I gotta go update my passport bbl.
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Old 2009-03-30, 23:34   Link #1982
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Wait, all it takes to have sex with school girls in Australia is to buy some chicken nuggets?
Man, that's so wrong and horrible and inhumane and stuff.

....Now Excuse me, I gotta go update my passport bbl.
xD
You guys are hung up over the nugget thing, yeesh it's a good way to make a story that's for sure.

As far as I can tell, she was being blackmailed into staying at her $1000 (or so)apartment for the sex by the girlfriend of that guy.
Another point which doesn't sit right with me and why i'm not on the bandwagon of 'angry mob', is for all the rights and protection she has as a 16 year old as Vexx so strongly pointed out, the fact she is of age of concent doesn't mean she's not a minor (in legal terms outside of sex, yes, but I was thinking more on terms of the men she slept with being prosecuted for sleeping with a minor, they can't be really.)
Short of her life being threatened, tortured or was kinapped against this, why the hell didn't she just walk away and report the dude in the first freaking place instead of being pimped to sleep with up to 5 guys.
I presume, she was hoping to get some money to help her finances out and then sadly was given bits of food instead.

It just doesn't sit right with me, esp on the girls end (both the girlfriend and victim), something feels off and it's probably related to why he only got 2 years or so.
But the article can only tell so much and tell it from a specific point of view, so no use speculating I suppose.
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Old 2009-03-31, 00:45   Link #1983
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It shouldn't concern me much... but for some reason the older I get the less tolerance I have for the ratsnest of stupid, contradictory, illogical laws we have in many countries (especially the US) on age-of-majority, age-of-consent, age-of-drinking, and all the "ogodz-savethechildren" righteous boneheads.

The situation is becoming total bleeping lunacy...
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Old 2009-03-31, 03:20   Link #1984
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It shouldn't concern me much... but for some reason the older I get the less tolerance I have for the ratsnest of stupid, contradictory, illogical laws we have in many countries (especially the US) on age-of-majority, age-of-consent, age-of-drinking, and all the "ogodz-savethechildren" righteous boneheads.

The situation is becoming total bleeping lunacy...
Relevant. http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...VvY6AD97608480 14 year old girl arrested for nude pictures of self on child pornography charges.
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Old 2009-04-01, 03:38   Link #1985
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N Korea threat to shoot down US spy planes

It appears that North Korea is making threats on April Fool's day. Unfortunately, to some countries and people, jokes cease to exist. Things are carried out in a matter of seriousness. The greatest fear right now is that those rockets of North Korea may be downsized nukes rather than just mere ballistic missiles. Intercepting nukes in Japan airspace may cause serious issues, thus the United States has backed down about intercepting it. Nonetheless, what happens if North Korea's testing fails and it explodes mid-air? Wouldn't nuclear radiation spread onto land?
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Old 2009-04-01, 13:14   Link #1986
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Relevant. http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...VvY6AD97608480 14 year old girl arrested for nude pictures of self on child pornography charges.
Aye, that's the most recent case ... we've had 4 or 5 similar cases in the last year - one of which ended in the boyfriend and girl friend being convicted in Florida of child porn distribution so that they are now Sex Offenders who have to register as such for the rest of their lives (now on appeal, I suppose).

Its witchhunting puritanical insanity that spotlights the lunacy and anti-intellectual threads in the US.
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Old 2009-04-01, 13:14   Link #1987
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[quote]http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6017461.ece

The leaders of France and Germany delivered a stunning ultimatum to Gordon Brown tonight when they demanded binding reform of world financial markets as the price of their support at tomorrow's G20 summit. [quote]

more political grandstanding while the world economy burns. Do they seriously expect any US president to agree to any kind of international oversight of the US economy? Even if Obama said yes, the democratic congress would vote a whelming no. It political suicide for Obama and the democratic party to agree to any international oversight of any part of the US economy no matter how small that oversight is.
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Old 2009-04-01, 15:33   Link #1988
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more political grandstanding while the world economy burns. Do they seriously expect any US president to agree to any kind of international oversight of the US economy? Even if Obama said yes, the democratic congress would vote a whelming no. It political suicide for Obama and the democratic party to agree to any international oversight of any part of the US economy no matter how small that oversight is.
And it'd be political suicide for Sarkozy and Merkel to not make that kind of demand. So, yeah. The economy will burn. Get used to the idea. Besides, it's not like "doing whatever the yanks want us to do" is such a great recipe for world prosperity, is it?

What will happen is probably that they'll find some kind of nothing-compromise that every government will try to sell as a great victory while the opposition paints it as the ultimate treason. What else do you expect?
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Old 2009-04-01, 20:27   Link #1989
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I'm not sure its "grandstanding" when they're asking for desperately needed reforms and actual regulation now that "laissez faire" and loopholes bigger than the regulations have thoroughly failed.

But yes, the French excel in doing it the French way
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Old 2009-04-01, 22:01   Link #1990
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Financial Fool's Day

SUMMIT-UPDATE 7-British police clash with G20 protesters

So, all the communists were getting pumped up over April Fool's day because of this big event today at London. Its the G-20 summit and honestly, I didn't see this one coming.. However, from what I heard, these protestors had been planning this since last month, I guess I wasn't paying attention to news relating to UK lately.

Bank windows are smashed, the protestors were even planning to set arson. Not just that, they claim to be powerless, yet from the looks of the footage, the riot police are pushed to the wall of the bank in which they had only wielded shields by thousands of aggressive protestors. Funny thing is that G-20 never takes place in China or Russia, otherwise it would be known as the day where the city is colored red. Unlike London riot police who wields nothing but just shields, the riot police of those nations wield heavy firearms..
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Old 2009-04-01, 22:12   Link #1991
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New Afghan law legalizes rape within marriage.

I'm not too happy with Harper saying that Canada remains committed to the Afghan mission. The Prime Minister should be keeping all forms of pressure on the table - and in my opinion that includes pulling our troops.
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Old 2009-04-01, 22:21   Link #1992
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The law wouldn't sound out of place back during the dark days of the Taliban. Perhaps, it wouldn't hurt to just pull everything out, and let the people there beat each other down. They don't want to move into modernity, so let them exercise that choice and we focus our attention to places where foreign help is more welcome.
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Old 2009-04-01, 22:36   Link #1993
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New Afghan law legalizes rape within marriage.

I'm not too happy with Harper saying that Canada remains committed to the Afghan mission. The Prime Minister should be keeping all forms of pressure on the table - and in my opinion that includes pulling our troops.
It is depressing to watch darkness and ignorance resurge....
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Old 2009-04-01, 23:57   Link #1994
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"Injustice anywhere is a crime against Justice everywhere."

Is the unrealistic mantra chanted by the politicians now in an attempt to appease one or other side. Though I disapprove of the afghan mission, I can see its importance, even if we're just "sending soldiers to die". If anything the US should divert their troops from Iraq and elsewhere and deal with something that's actually pretty real.

In the worst case we must let nature do to itself, if they do not choose the change we can't force them to without spilling more blood. Really, its all just a matter of how much pressure are we really capable of putting.
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Old 2009-04-02, 01:17   Link #1995
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"Injustice anywhere is a crime against Justice everywhere."
Wise words but too bad we're not that powerful.

We should just either take all our troops from Iraq and crush the Taliban with them or send everyone home and actually try to save ourselves from economic death. My view on Iraq is that if they're lucky their government won't fail and if they're unlucky... well, it's not African nations haven't been going through tons of hardcore stuff for like the last eternity. We should try to make Afghanistan work (which I don't think going to happen considering the USSR got screwed and the Pakistani situation doesn't seem so bright) with our best efforts, or just give up on being a worldwide military power and go back to being content with having two oceans to protect us.
I like the second option better. If we stay in our own continent, we can tell the rest of the world: "trade and do commerce with us if you like, but try to mess with us and we'll nuke you to death." This way there'll be no reason for people like bin Laden to complain about US troops on holy Saudi soil or Russia claiming that we're encircling them (which we are).
The idea of doing small, efficient, UN-assisted strikes on genocidal dudes here and there, from time to time, seems appealing, however. It would keep up the impression of America being badass and just, which is a nice thing.
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Old 2009-04-02, 01:20   Link #1996
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The moment the US, or anyone, sets a precedent for using nuclear weaponry, all bets are off. You're better off moving to a countryside, far away from any city, so that the nukes don't end up hitting you.
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Old 2009-04-02, 01:26   Link #1997
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The moment the US, or anyone, sets a precedent for using nuclear weaponry, all bets are off. You're better off moving to a countryside, far away from any city, so that the nukes don't end up hitting you.
No, there's MAD. It worked from 1960-1989, it should still work.
Also, as for "precedents," The USSR had one: "No first strikes, but if you use nukes against against us at all, even for tactical purposes, we're going to hit you with all we have." This was the reasoning behind virtually all Soviet nukes being the kind to be used on strategic targets.
And we're still here.
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Old 2009-04-02, 01:45   Link #1998
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Well, MAD might not work against non-state players. Once Al-Qaeda (or any other terrorist group) thought out their plan to get their hands on a nuke (most probably buying it off a shelf), they might very well use it before any declaration.
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Old 2009-04-02, 01:57   Link #1999
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Well, MAD might not work against non-state players. Once Al-Qaeda (or any other terrorist group) thought out their plan to get their hands on a nuke (most probably buying it off a shelf), they might very well use it before any declaration.
Al-Qeda groups don't exist without reason/ If the USA did not have troops in Saudi Arabia (muslim holy land) or actively support Israel, for example, Al-Qeda wouldn't be after the US and 9/11 wouldn't have happened. The point of my idea is to avoid blowback while at the same time keeping the American continent safe. IMO the US government has been very irresponsible when it comes to avoiding hatred.
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Old 2009-04-02, 02:04   Link #2000
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No, there's MAD. It worked from 1960-1989, it should still work.
Also, as for "precedents," The USSR had one: "No first strikes, but if you use nukes against against us at all, even for tactical purposes, we're going to hit you with all we have." This was the reasoning behind virtually all Soviet nukes being the kind to be used on strategic targets.
And we're still here.
Just barely.... really - just barely. Too many very near times... MAD is not something I'd recommend for a permament solution.


On an unrelated note, something I've been waiting to hear for a few years now. China is going to take advantage of being newly in the auto game, leapfrog and go directly for alternative fuel vehicle leadership in the world.

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Chinese leaders have adopted a plan aimed at turning the country into one of the leading producers of hybrid and all-electric vehicles within three years, and making it the world leader in electric cars and buses after that.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/02/bu...er=rss&emc=rss
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