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Old 2009-05-27, 14:53   Link #2721
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They should. Overfishing has done major damage to fish stocks world wide. The populations of many former staples of the fish market have dropped so low that there simply isn't enough of them left to catch. This has itself devestated the fishing industry in many parts of the world. It's hard to maintain a livelyhood by fishing where there aren't enough fish left to catch to make it worth the operational expenses of the fishing boat. Stricter regulations would have helped prevent that. Of course no one wanted to hear that they should make a little less now so the industry is sustainable so they won't end up ruined later when they run out of catchable fish. No, after all it's a big ocean. There are plenty of fish out there, ignoring that only a few species are desirable for human consumption.
You'd be amazed where alot of fish is being fished for Do some research on the Green movement.

I think animals had an amount of rights, like all livings things they should not be exposed to unneccassary violence.

It's not so much of the varying markets that seem to be wasteful of the fish. Fish are being fished so that they can be used for organic farm fertilizer to the commercial fish eaten by people and animals. There has been studies on the size and population of fish, they have both dramatically declined (For reasons I cannot decipher why) there's obviously a huge market for fish, but it isn't just for our food. We can try to regulate it, and they do, but of course rules will be broken. Its almost impossible to help.

We can't ban the whole practise becasue it's suddenly bad. That causes black markets, that causes poaching. Who do you think will finance a navy patrol to patrol the enitre oceans? Its impossible and forces people off their jobs. There's no real solution until they find a way either to selective breed fish to make them faster growing and stronger. But honestly, the other markets just want volume rather than quality. And obviously we can't do anything about volume.
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Old 2009-05-27, 15:09   Link #2722
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We could try to introduce a predator for fishermen in the form of privateers...
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Old 2009-05-27, 15:44   Link #2723
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Old, but still relevant me thinks.

Judge rules family can't refuse chemo for boy.

The story is that a family has refused to have their son get chemo for his Hodgkin's lymphoma cancer, which has a 90% survival rate with chemo treatment

The parents have decided to use alternative medicines for religious reasons. However, a judge has ruled that not getting the boy proper medical care is parental neglect and he has ruled in the favor of the state to force the boy to recieve treatment.

Recently, the mother and her child have fled to Mexico. Kid's thirteen and he can't even read.

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Old 2009-05-27, 16:12   Link #2724
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Complete with a smoking Seoul, at the very least, and the PRC would definitely demand a unified Korea to allow their influence inside to counter the States.
Might as well move the capital to Busan for the time being.
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Old 2009-05-27, 16:14   Link #2725
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The parents have decided to use alternative medicines for religious reasons.
I wonder. Minnesota voted Obama but that's some Red State attitude right there.
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Old 2009-05-27, 17:56   Link #2726
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yeah they do that. it's about time to bomb that little ronery dictator's ass.

Who's in for a free, democratic North Korea?
I would prefer rich and democratic North Korea thank you very much.

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Complete with a smoking Seoul, at the very least, and the PRC would definitely demand a unified Korea to allow their influence inside to counter the States.
I really hope that PRC does do that, you know because two different nations trying to influence Korea worked so well last time.

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Might as well move the capital to Busan for the time being.
Well I suppose I should rep you for writing Busan properly instead of that Pusan crap that is written in almost all English world map.
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Old 2009-05-27, 18:49   Link #2727
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Might as well move the capital to Busan for the time being.
Well, in Chinese, we call it Fushan...

Seoul should be the capital of a unified Korea, but as the capital of the South... Maybe, they should move it.
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Old 2009-05-27, 19:04   Link #2728
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Well, in Chinese, we call it Fushan...

Seoul should be the capital of a unified Korea, but as the capital of the South... Maybe, they should move it.
No way lot of history in that city and it has been the capital for over 600years.
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Old 2009-05-27, 19:08   Link #2729
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Just looking at the names it accumulated through the centuries should give a hint.
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Old 2009-05-27, 20:58   Link #2730
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I thought that Pyongyang was the historical capital of Korea.
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Old 2009-05-27, 22:22   Link #2731
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Old 2009-05-27, 22:24   Link #2732
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Old, but still relevant me thinks.

Judge rules family can't refuse chemo for boy.

The story is that family has refused to have their son get chemo for his Hodgkin's lymphoma cancer, which has a 90% survival rate with chemo treatment.

The parents have decided to use alternative medicines for religious reasons. However, a judge has ruled that not getting the boy proper medical care is parental neglect and he has ruled in the favor of the state to force the boy to revieve treatment.

Recently, the mother and his child has fled to Mexico. Kid's thirteen and he can't even read.
Okay, not to support their lunacy but last I checked we had no universal healthcare. Any of ya'll have any idea how much chemotherapy costs and how many for-profit health insurance companies exit the building before the bill comes due?
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Old 2009-05-27, 22:34   Link #2733
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Okay, not to support their lunacy but last I checked we had no universal healthcare. Any of ya'll have any idea how much chemotherapy costs and how many for-profit health insurance companies exit the building before the bill comes due?
Enough to make your average family rather destitute for the rest of thier lives, I assume. But, with only a 5-10% chance of survival without the chemo, I would assume that most parents say 'cost be damned' and do it.

I don't think it's even about the money, either. The kid doesn't even think he's all that sick. The parents are just crazy.

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Hauser said she had been treating the boy's cancer instead with herbal supplements, vitamins, ionized water and other natural alternatives — a regimen based mostly on information she found on the Internet.
I'm not in the medical field, but I don't think it'll work.

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Old 2009-05-27, 22:46   Link #2734
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8070252.stm

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now i won't be surprised if there were real Pokemon existed in real life.
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Old 2009-05-28, 03:21   Link #2735
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I don't think it's as clear cut as you present it. There are some legit concerns that she may be unfit to be on the Supreme Court. I mean consider that somewhere around 80% of the appeals against her rulings that have gone to the Supreme Court have been overturned. Even more interesting is that some of the reasons other judges have overturned her has not been ideological in nature, but simply that she "got her statutory wrong", as in she simply didn't understand the law surrounding the case. This Judge has a history of putting the matters of law aside and using the cases she oversees to promote her own personal opinion on what would be "good positive social change". I don't care if you are a overly liberal judge or if you are an overly conservative judge, your job is to adjudicate law, it is not to promote your own personal agenda, no matter how well intended it may be.
hmmm it's 60%
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...s-fodder-to-f/



btw Here's her appellate record spelled out by topic.

http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/judge-s...n-civil-cases/
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Old 2009-05-28, 04:10   Link #2736
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8070252.stm

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Hey that would be pretty cool in the disco. *goes to inject himself with GFP flu*

http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2009/05/...8511242253294/

edit: oh this would have fit that other news thread better. I forgot we have two.

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Old 2009-05-28, 05:58   Link #2737
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Old 2009-05-28, 08:18   Link #2738
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I thought that Pyongyang was the historical capital of Korea.
Anyway, who in his right mind would put up with one nation taking another hostage. Wtf is with threatening to flatten a foreign city because they don't like what their government doing? No one is obliged to provide the North with food and fuel so they better not impose.

The sunshine policy only took it too far. What did it achieve? Its time for bombshine policy.

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Old 2009-05-28, 08:20   Link #2739
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That is the general feeling one NYT article gave me. The South is getting fed up.
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Old 2009-05-28, 08:23   Link #2740
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The South is getting fed up.
I would too...
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