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Old 2013-05-29, 17:00   Link #28621
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The fact that they're fishing in some others' country's sea? Anyway, it's still under investigation. It is now whether the coast guards shot the fisherman out of self defense or intentional (coz his to stubborn to listen) .

Look, they're fishing here again wanting to be shot and seek compensation,,,
another way of looking it is that Philippine Coast Guard went into another countries territorial Waters and Killed Unarmed Fisherman.

Wars has been started over less.
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Old 2013-05-29, 17:10   Link #28622
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another way of looking it is that Philippine Coast Guard went into another countries territorial Waters and Killed Unarmed Fisherman.

Wars has been started over less.
Funny they're not investigating regarding the location of the incident but the actual shooting itself...

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Wars has been started over less.
PRC will lift its claims in the Spratlys in exchange for helping to conquer Taiwan...
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Old 2013-05-29, 17:16   Link #28623
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PRC will lift its claims in the Spratlys in exchange for helping to conquer Taiwan...
Jokes aside, you DO realise if the deal go through, The Philippines troops would be used as meat shields right? Someone else's army = disposable.
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Old 2013-05-29, 17:19   Link #28624
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PRC will lift its claims in the Spratlys in exchange for helping to conquer Taiwan...
PRC doesn't need help to conquer Taiwan, just the US to step aside.
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Old 2013-05-29, 17:20   Link #28625
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Jokes aside, you DO realise if the deal go through, The Philippines troops would be used as meat shields right? Someone else's army = disposable.
Lols.. Filipinos got pride, only politicians doesn't... Anyway, shame to the PRC 10 million army.... 50,000 Philippine army got the credit in history for winning the war with PRC assistance....
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Old 2013-05-29, 18:06   Link #28626
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PRC doesn't need help to conquer Taiwan, just the US to step aside.
There's a famous theory in VN that Taiwan has been in alliance with China secretly and they're just playing hostile to each other so that Taiwan can get more weapons from US which will belong to China in a near future ( when Taiwan return to China ) .

So if that's true which is highly unlikely, Philippine really got the short end of the stick
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Old 2013-05-29, 18:12   Link #28627
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Lols.. Filipinos got pride, only politicians doesn't... Anyway, shame to the PRC 10 million army.... 50,000 Philippine army got the credit in history for winning the war with PRC assistance....
What is this magic 10 million army you speak of? You know PLA army is 2.25 give or take right? Which is only twice of the American ones.
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Old 2013-05-29, 18:49   Link #28628
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I thought PRC has the biggest army, I heard or read it once....
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Old 2013-05-29, 19:12   Link #28629
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That's North Korea.
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Old 2013-05-29, 19:30   Link #28630
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That's North Korea.
Ok,... ehehehe... still shame...
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Old 2013-05-29, 19:38   Link #28631
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In China, US official promotes military ties
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...05-28-17-56-48
Seriously, is the National Security advisor on crack or what?

With all those cases of hacking and industrial espionage by China, that's just plain silly to say. The more it goes, the more I'm worried several members of the Obama administration (including the man himself) are burying their heads in the sand when it comes to foreign politics.
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Old 2013-05-29, 19:40   Link #28632
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Seriously, is the National Security advisor on crack or what?

With all those cases of hacking and industrial espionage by China, that's just plain silly to say. The more it goes, the more I'm worried several members of the Obama administration (including the man himself) are burying their heads in the sand when it comes to foreign politics.
Economic stability/security vs. Nationalism/Patriotism

Politicians/Capitalist vs. Civilians/Soldiers
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Old 2013-05-29, 19:48   Link #28633
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Well, that doesn't mean politicians can't work to get closer diplomatic/economic ties with all of x's country neighbors (excluding NK of course) in order to create that diplomatic spider web crippling the country x they don't like. That's where Otto van Bismarck was damn good when he isolated France for 20 years before he got fired by an impulsive megalomaniac jack.
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Old 2013-05-29, 19:52   Link #28634
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Leaders nowadays are either too scared or too concern of what is happening....
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Old 2013-05-29, 19:59   Link #28635
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The fact that they're fishing in some others' country's sea?
For the umpteenth time, the location is within BOTH COUNTRY'S EEZ, it does NOT belong solely to the PHL.

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Look, they're fishing here again wanting to be shot and seek compensation,,,
The sheer callousness here speaks volumes about yourself.

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Funny they're not investigating regarding the location of the incident but the actual shooting itself...
What's there to investigate? the location is not in dispute, and has already been known for quite a while:

http://m.chinapost.com.tw/taiwan/201...-publishes.htm

The only thing that's in dispute is how each nation characterize said location.

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PRC will lift its claims in the Spratlys in exchange for helping to conquer Taiwan...
Truth be told, the PHL military is in no shape to be of value to anyone outside of PHL.

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There's a famous theory in VN that Taiwan has been in alliance with China secretly and they're just playing hostile to each other so that Taiwan can get more weapons from US which will belong to China in a near future ( when Taiwan return to China ) .

So if that's true which is highly unlikely, Philippine really got the short end of the stick
poor quality tinfoil. Besides, it'd be a lot quicker for China to just keep hacking away, instead of using a super roundabout and convoluted method just so they can get their hands on last generation hardware.
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Old 2013-05-29, 20:03   Link #28636
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Truth be told, the PHL military is in no shape to be of value to anyone outside of PHL.
Same here... unless your soldiers step in our soil.. we don't give a damn.

It's our President that is the problem. Don't be proud by mere nukes super power got. Nuking a simply soldier without facing him in equal proves cowardice in terms of honor... unless it's not valued anymore by THE SUPER POWERS...

This really funny... brave when they're numerically superior.... but weaklings as individuals...
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Old 2013-05-29, 20:30   Link #28637
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http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...05-29-21-24-23
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Old 2013-05-29, 20:35   Link #28638
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poor quality tinfoil. Besides, it'd be a lot quicker for China to just keep hacking away, instead of using a super roundabout and convoluted method just so they can get their hands on last generation hardware.
I was thinking that they are just letting Taiwan get all the new US hardware for the PRC spies within the Taiwanese ranks to siphon, like what they are doing in Singapore. Otherwise how did their new destroyers get Aegis-type battle management systems?
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Old 2013-05-29, 20:35   Link #28639
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It's our President that is the problem. Don't be proud by mere nukes super power got. Nuking a simply soldier without facing him in equal proves cowardice in terms of honor... unless it's not valued anymore by THE SUPER POWERS...

This really funny... brave when they're numerically superior.... but weaklings as individuals...
I find it amusing that you're not even attempting to address my points, choosing instead to go on a tangent ranting about... something.

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Same here... unless your soldiers step in our soil.. we don't give a damn.
same what? I was merely commenting on the ridiculousness of saying the PHL can help anyone militarily with, well, anything, outside of its own territory. You guys have no air force, and no blue water navy (or much of a navy for that matter). With practically no ability to project your forces, your army is limited to your own soil, anyone who would seek help from the PHL military would literally have to come and pick them up themselves.

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I was thinking that they are just letting Taiwan get all the new US hardware for the PRC spies within the Taiwanese ranks to siphon, like what they are doing in Singapore. Otherwise how did their new Liaoning destroyers get Aegis-type battle management systems?
pretty sure Taiwan doesn't have any Aegis ships yet.
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Old 2013-05-29, 20:42   Link #28640
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I find it amusing that you're not even attempting to address my points, choosing instead to go on a tangent ranting about... something.

same what? I was merely commenting on the ridiculousness of saying the PHL can help anyone militarily with, well, anything, outside of its own territory. You guys have no air force, and no blue water navy (or much of a navy for that matter). With practically no ability to project your forces, your army is limited to your own soil, anyone who would seek help from the PHL military would literally have to come and pick them up themselves.
I just don't like people looking down on us just because we don't have this and that. We seek American for yes but if not its ok... The government's attitude doesn't reflect the true concern of the nation.

You say I ignore? Sorry I'm not that intelligent in debate but I have common sense I just could not express it the way you guys express it.
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