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Old 2013-10-01, 22:37   Link #30901
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A stock exchange for insurance? Wow. That is one hell of an idea, Wall Street.
Can I ask something?why is a lot of American opposed to obama-care? I mean, this is "free" health benefit right? Why would some people opposed this? Do those side opposing the idea thinks that the poor doesn't deserve free health service or is there some kind of negative things attached to the plan?
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Old 2013-10-01, 23:11   Link #30902
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Some feel Obama's health care system dictates what they can and can't do, or requires them to pay for someone else when they have already finished paying their own way (retired Baby Boomers ans Veterans).

Also the thing is several thousand pages long or something like that. They are afraid of what could be hidden in there, or are agaimst the Federal government dictating some of the things that have been found in there that could be considered controversal.
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Old 2013-10-01, 23:28   Link #30903
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It's also the second time it's shut down in 20 years. It's not literally "shutting down".
This really cracked me up more than it should:
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Old 2013-10-02, 00:04   Link #30904
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I have little sympathy for the guy that may be paralyzed and no sympathy for his fellow bikers. They were up to no good and boxed in that guy and like others said, he was with his wife and two year old kid.
On that note, apparently the injured guys father had an article written about him in the New York Times a few years ago.

There was an interesting quote.
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Given his druthers, Mr. Mieses said, he would have stuck to the moral issues that are traditional for Pentecostal churches, preaching the virtues of sobriety and abstinence, warning against drugs, gangs and Satan. Events have made the tradition untenable, he said. While Mr. Mieses’s church in neighboring West Hazleton is named Buenas Nuevas for the “good news” of the Gospel, much of the news for him and thousands of other Hispanics here has been decidedly bad.
Yes. Gangs can be very bad things to get involved with. Wouldn't you say? I'd be particularly worried about my son hanging out in one. Who knows what could happen due to all their tom foolery.


This group had apparently been making a hobby of violating traffic laws enmass and acting like they ruled the streets like a bunch of Mad Max Rejects.

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Old 2013-10-02, 01:44   Link #30905
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^ saw a couple videos. they were riding around the city for quite awhile. i'm surprise
there were NO polices coming after them at all. one of the video capture on a high building
showing them riding the wrong way in traffic, blocking people ways, riding on pedestrian
street, one dood took off his helmet while driving, making A LOT of noise in the city....and
where is the polices people? >______>;

don't tell me the government already fired most of them and now they're barely any
cops on the street as well.
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Old 2013-10-02, 04:05   Link #30906
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Funny stuff: On Foxnews, there is no Government Shutdown. It's a Government "Slimdown".

Now who could possibly object to that?
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Old 2013-10-02, 07:00   Link #30907
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Opening Rush to Insurance Markets Runs Into Snags
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/02/us...aces-open.html

Obamacare Demand Signals Potential Success for Exchanges
http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/201...te-delays.html
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Old 2013-10-02, 07:28   Link #30908
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Can I ask something?why is a lot of American opposed to obama-care? I mean, this is "free" health benefit right? Why would some people opposed this? Do those side opposing the idea thinks that the poor doesn't deserve free health service or is there some kind of negative things attached to the plan?
You will be fined if you don't get insured.

Basically if you have lifelong fully paid insurance and miss out on a niche or two, you still get fined.

The humourous thing is that we have finally managed to put something deemed priceless on the stock exchange : human life. Health risks are being traded across the board and technically speaking, everyone is equal in health coverage.

Then again, what if everyone is unhealthy, or there is an epidemic?
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Old 2013-10-02, 07:36   Link #30909
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Can I ask something?why is a lot of American opposed to obama-care? I mean, this is "free" health benefit right? Why would some people opposed this? Do those side opposing the idea thinks that the poor doesn't deserve free health service or is there some kind of negative things attached to the plan?
Because the propaganda arm of the Republican Party has spent the last few years whipping their base up into thinking that Obamacare is the implementation of socialist fascism in America, and it means that the Battle of Iwo Jima was in vain.


The really crazy thing about Obamacare is that it's essentially a moderate idea that was conceived of by a Republican think tank, and implemented as law by a moderate Republican...said Republican (Romeny) then had to pretend it was suddenly the embodiment of all evil when he ran for office. If the Democrats had gotten what they'd wanted, we'd have gotten a universal public option...and allot of the problems we're anticipating with Obamacare would be significantly minimized.
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Old 2013-10-02, 08:24   Link #30910
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Hyundai to defer payments due from US government staff

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-24361142

Whether this is a pr move or not, this is really a nice gesture from Hyundai.
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Old 2013-10-02, 08:32   Link #30911
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-24361142

Whether this is a pr move or not, this is really a nice gesture from Hyundai.
Let's see how the Japanese automakers will react. This should be fun to watch - the biz handlers of two bratty lolis bickering on behalf of their princesses about whose car Sam-chon/Sam-ojisan should drive.
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Old 2013-10-02, 08:34   Link #30912
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-24361142

Whether this is a pr move or not, this is really a nice gesture from Hyundai.
It's something Hyundai had been doing for quite a while, so I wouldn't say PR move.
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Old 2013-10-02, 09:17   Link #30913
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Paul Ryan: Debt Limit 'Forcing Action' On Budget
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/1...n_4023954.html
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"We have a debt limit coming ... in about two weeks," Ryan told reporters at a brief news conference. The House Budget Committee chairman added: "Most budget agreements in the past have always involved debt limit increases."
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Old 2013-10-02, 10:02   Link #30914
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Spy novelist Tom Clancy dies aged 66
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Old 2013-10-02, 10:21   Link #30915
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Dammit. After Elizabeth Peters in August, another of my favorite authors leaves this world.

RIP Tom.
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Old 2013-10-02, 10:40   Link #30916
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I used to read his stuff when I was younger. Quite a shock this is. Rest in peace.
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Old 2013-10-02, 10:57   Link #30917
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Spy novelist Tom Clancy dies aged 66


That's really sad. I don't think I could find someone who was so entertaining in his storytelling for the spy novel genre.

R.I.P. Tom.
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Old 2013-10-02, 11:10   Link #30918
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Twenty years ago, the real-life bogeyman showed up in Petaluma in the form of career criminal Richard Allen Davis, and what he did to a dimpled 12-year-old girl inspired a frenzy of reform - radically changing the way California and the nation handle missing children, child molesters and repeat offenders.
Even before Davis was convicted of killing Polly Klaas, the governor signed the pioneering 1994 "three strikes" sentencing law, police agencies speeded their responses to kidnappings, and parents - newly fearful about letting kids out of sight - won the ability to look up registries of molesters on their block.


http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/...es-4861976.php
can't believed it has been 20 years since the Polly Klaus kidnapping.
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Old 2013-10-02, 11:35   Link #30919
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Spy novelist Tom Clancy dies aged 66
Sam Fisher was one of my heroes he created. Sarcastic to wit, snarky yet realising that he is doing an important job nobody else wants, will and knows anything about, Tom helped bridge the gaps between soldier, spy, father, husband and citizen by referring them all as humans.

Hard to believe that he died in his 60s.
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Most of all, you have to be disciplined and you have to save, even if you hate our current financial system. Because if you don't save, then you're guaranteed to end up with nothing.
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Old 2013-10-02, 12:04   Link #30920
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You will be fined if you don't get insured.

Basically if you have lifelong fully paid insurance and miss out on a niche or two, you still get fined.

The humourous thing is that we have finally managed to put something deemed priceless on the stock exchange : human life. Health risks are being traded across the board and technically speaking, everyone is equal in health coverage.

Then again, what if everyone is unhealthy, or there is an epidemic?
Best thing, more insurance doesn't actually solve systemic flaws in the healthcare system...like basic hygeine practices as an example.
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