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Old 2013-10-07, 14:08   Link #31001
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They won't get sacked, though. They're doing what their very small cluster of idiots want, and as such they will stay in office. Rather than doing what's best for the nation, they're doing what's "best" for their couple of thousand voters at the expense of the millions of others.
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Old 2013-10-07, 14:24   Link #31002
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That's a good way to put it.

Boehner and his GOP people are just one sorry bunch of tossers who deserve to get sacked after the next election. Hell... Don't they see the moral conundrum in what they are proposing? It's basically about cutting down affordable healthcare on 25 million of Americans (25 million!); that's equivalent to hanging those people dry, worse than leaving a fellow comrade wounded on a battlefield.
That is a bad way to put it.

It is more like, "Your neighbor came to your house with a bomb with enough power to level the city, asking if he could plant a new apple tree on your side of the fence."

The Tea-morons forget the fact they live in U.S and paid in dollars too. If U.S gov defaults those dollars will worth exactly ZERO.
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Old 2013-10-07, 14:43   Link #31003
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Russia to spy on Olympic athletes, visitors: researchers:

"Russia has installed an all-encompassing surveillance system at the site of next year's
Winter Olympic Games in Sochi that will allow security services to listen in on athletes
and visitors, security analysts said on Monday.

The surveillance system, known as SORM, was first developed by the Soviet-era KGB,
predecessor of the FSB special services, in the mid-1980s. It has been updated in
recent years to keep tabs on the Russian opposition, among other things, said
prominent security analyst Andrei Soldatov.

SORM will give Russian security services free access to all phone and Internet
communications at the Olympic Games in February without the providers' knowledge,
according to research by Soldatov and his colleague Irina Borogan."

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http://sports.yahoo.com/news/russia-...9365--oly.html
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Old 2013-10-07, 18:48   Link #31004
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Partisans Dug in on Budget, Health Care Impasse
http://www.people-press.org/2013/10/...-care-impasse/

Coburn dismisses default 'rumor'
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...bt-ceiling-hit
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On Sunday, Treasury Secretary Jack Lew warned that Congress was "playing with fire" as it approached the debt ceiling. He told CNN that the government would have about $30 billion in cash on hand to pay its debts but warned that was not a "responsible amount of cash to run the government on."
"If they don't extend the debt limit," Lew said, "we have a very, very short window of time before those scenarios start to be played out."
The Treasury Department has estimated that it will run out of "extraordinary measures" to continue paying the nation's bills on Oct. 17.
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Old 2013-10-07, 20:37   Link #31005
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Schumer To Boehner: Prove That A Clean Spending Bill Won't Pass
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewir...-cr-won-t-pass
I want to ask something again. From what I read in bloomberg and reuters, some democrat congress member is pretty sure that clean bill will pass as long as vote is allowed, but the congree speaker is preventing it. Is that kind of move legal? I mean, in my country, the legislative "leader" doesn't have the power to stop a vote inside the legislative body in order to reach decision ona bill(or else there will be opportunity fr abuse where the "leader" will stop a vote whenever the chance is not in his favor). Is it not the same in US?
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Old 2013-10-07, 21:18   Link #31006
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Is it not the same in US?
The Speaker for the House controls what legislation reaches the floor, as well as the legislative agenda and which legislation is assigned to which committee (committees are also created and housed by the Speaker). The Speaker of the House is the second most powerful person in the Government (technically, the Vice President is, but they seldom do anything but wait for the President to die or to run for the office once the President retires...I'm only partially joking here).
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Old 2013-10-07, 21:24   Link #31007
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The Vice President is also the President of the Senate. Though they have a lot less to do there than the Speaker of the House.
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Old 2013-10-07, 22:08   Link #31008
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The Speaker for the House controls what legislation reaches the floor, as well as the legislative agenda and which legislation is assigned to which committee (committees are also created and housed by the Speaker). The Speaker of the House is the second most powerful person in the Government (technically, the Vice President is, but they seldom do anything but wait for the President to die or to run for the office once the President retires...I'm only partially joking here).
Wow, that's a pretty strong power there held by one person. Is the speaker chosen by election or chosen by the house member?
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Old 2013-10-07, 22:20   Link #31009
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Wow, that's a pretty strong power there held by one person. Is the speaker chosen by election or chosen by the house member?
The Speaker is chosen by an election (a roll call vote) amongst the members of the House.

(Strangely enough, the Speaker doesn't have to actually be an elected member of Congress, they must simply be chosen by Congress.)
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Old 2013-10-08, 07:48   Link #31010
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Libya PM says U.S. raid will not hurt ties
http://ca.reuters.com/article/topNew...99706Y20131008

Did Obama swap 'black' detention sites for ships?
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...10-08-03-12-53
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Old 2013-10-08, 08:20   Link #31011
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Paedophile who walked free from court gets two years in prison after appeal

Also, the prosecuting barrister who was suspended from handling sexual offence cases after describing the 13 year old victim as 'predatory' and 'sexually experienced' has now resigned from the CPS sex case panel.
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Old 2013-10-08, 10:15   Link #31012
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Paedophile who walked free from court gets two years in prison after appeal

Also, the prosecuting barrister who was suspended from handling sexual offence cases after describing the 13 year old victim as 'predatory' and 'sexually experienced' has now resigned from the CPS sex case panel.
I don't get this....why did the PROSECUTION said this kind of things? Aren't they suppose to be on the OTHER SIDE, representing the 13 years old?
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Old 2013-10-08, 10:32   Link #31013
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I don't get this....why did the PROSECUTION said this kind of things? Aren't they suppose to be on the OTHER SIDE, representing the 13 years old?
Maybe the the girl is a real 13-year-old jailbait who exploits older men's penchant for cute things?
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Old 2013-10-08, 11:06   Link #31014
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Maybe the the girl is a real 13-year-old jailbait who exploits older men's penchant for cute things?
Is that you wishing this to be true or you are just sarcastic ?
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Old 2013-10-08, 11:10   Link #31015
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Is that you wishing this to be true or you are just sarcastic ?
Actually bold. But more of sarcasm considering I do have a sense of personal responsibility not to harm smaller and weaker things.
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Old 2013-10-08, 11:24   Link #31016
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Maybe the the girl is a real 13-year-old jailbait who exploits older men's penchant for cute things?
Even if so, that's not for the prosecution to point out. However, there's a reason he resigned.
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Old 2013-10-08, 11:29   Link #31017
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It depends. Sometimes it's more about finding the truth than winning a debate. (Not trying to justify the bastard. Just pointing out that legal tradition varies.)
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Old 2013-10-08, 11:51   Link #31018
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Paedophile who walked free from court gets two years in prison after appeal

Also, the prosecuting barrister who was suspended from handling sexual offence cases after describing the 13 year old victim as 'predatory' and 'sexually experienced' has now resigned from the CPS sex case panel.
is the prosecutor related to that Judge in Montana?
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Old 2013-10-08, 11:52   Link #31019
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This seems to be the Rights thoughts on the matter of the government shutdown.

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editor...acare-feud.htm

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Displaying their ignorance of the U.S. Constitution, Democratic bigwigs are excoriating Republican members of the House of Representatives for attaching a condition “no ObamaCare” to a stopgap bill to fund the government.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid called it “extortion.” Sen. Steny Hoyer labeled it “hostage-taking.” Rep. Nancy Pelosi termed it “legislative arson.”

In truth, what the House Republicans are doing is not blackmail. It’s checks and balances in action. Congress has always had the power to attach almost any condition “including repealing or changing a law” to appropriations. The framers wrote the Constitution that way for good reason.

The nation’s first plan of government, the Articles of Confederation, had no president. When the framers gathered in 1787 to write a second, more effective plan, they reluctantly created the presidency.

Reluctantly, because the founders worried that a president would accumulate power and spend flagrantly as they had seen the despotic kings of Europe do.

Founders’ Checks

To prevent that, the founders created checks and balances. In the words of James Madison, the Constitution’s chief architect, each branch of government is “effectually checked and restrained by the others.”

Congress was given power over the purse “the power to appropriate money and to borrow it or raise it through taxes,” because locating the power in Congress would force the president to constantly negotiate with Congress.

Fast forward 226 years to last Friday. President Obama called Speaker of the House John Boehner to say “he will not negotiate” with Congress on raising the U.S. government’s borrowing authority. The president, who claims to be a constitutional scholar, needs a refresher course.

The same day, Obama whipped up a crowd at a Ford plant, complaining that by attaching conditions to the appropriations bill, House Republicans are “trying to mess with me.”

Yes, they are, Mr. President, though Madison expressed it with more elegance and precision.
“An elective despotism is not the government we fought for,” Madison wrote in Federalist 58. A president with the power to borrow and spend at will would be just that.

Sadly, large numbers of Americans are at risk of being bamboozled by the Democrats’ inflammatory accusations and warnings of a government shutdown.

One reason is that shockingly, only a third of Americans can identify the three branches of government (according to a Pew Foundation poll). That’s how gravely our civics education has failed.

Secondly, the President’s party is fanning fears of a shutdown, something no one wants.

But let’s be clear, the military would continue to operate, doctors and nurses would still come to work at federal hospitals, air traffic controllers and other emergency personnel would be on the job, and everyone would eventually get paid.
If you’re planning a trip to Yellowstone National Park, you might be inconvenienced.

Compare that to what’s at stake: preserving the Constitution. The health reform the president is insisting on implementing is a distorted, mangled, half-baked version of what Congress enacted in 2010. It is no longer the Affordable Care Act.

Illegal Acts

The president is illegally picking and choosing what parts to keep. Gone is the employer mandate, the cap on out-of-pocket expenses, income verification for subsidy recipients, and over half the deadlines in the law.

These changes are not just illegal. They also shift billions of dollars in costs on to taxpayers, cheat seriously ill patients, leave employees in the lurch, all in a devious attempt to patch up an unworkable law.

Madison anticipated this threat to freedom. In Federalist 62, he warned that it will be pointless for Americans to elect a Congress, if it in turn enacts laws “too voluminous to be read,” or if these laws then “ undergo such incessant changes that no man who knows what the law is today can guess what it will be tomorrow.” That’s ObamaCare.

On last week’s Saturday radio address, Obama again confronted House Republicans, demanding that they fund the government, no questions asked.

Obama claimed that “the most basic constitutional duty Congress has is passing a budget.”


Wrong again, Mr. President.


Congress’s most basic duty is to protect and defend the Constitution, and withholding the money is the chief way to do it.
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Old 2013-10-08, 12:34   Link #31020
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^Wasn't the author of that op/ed the creator of the "death panel" myth?

Whatever her credentials, she is clearly wrong considering the Supreme Court (whose job is to "protect and defend the Constitution") did find the ACA to be constitutional, so arguing its not (especially when you really don't have the credentials or wherewith all to support your argument) is a little silly. It's also just plain weird to claim that any Party does not know the Constitution.

Congress' job is to best represent the people, and what they are currently doing has very little to do with the will of the people.

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