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Old 2013-10-10, 17:28   Link #31081
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Mercury Astronaut Scott Carpenter, Second American in Orbit, Dies at 88:


"Godspeed, Scott Carpenter.

The United States' fourth astronaut to fly in space and the
second to orbit the Earth, Scott Carpenter, 88, died on Thursday
(Oct. 10) after suffering a recent stroke.

The original Mercury 7 astronaut was being cared for at a hospice
center in Denver when he passed. Carpenter was initially expected
to make a full recovery from the stroke, but his condition worsened
this week, sources close to his family shared."

See:

http://www.space.com/23158-astronaut...-obituary.html
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Old 2013-10-10, 17:30   Link #31082
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It's funny how people blame the republicans, both parties are responsible. Obama is basically holding america hostage until he gets his way.
Until further notice, it's the Republicans who are willing to hang 25 million people dry with their demands (I should rather say threats) on cutting down the new healthcare system. Seriously, what kind of elected representatives would take a shit on 25 million fellow citizens when the proposed system was already deemed legal by the Supreme Court itself?

Those GOP fools are politicians with a banana republic mentality unfit to be part of government that is supposed to be better than that.
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Old 2013-10-10, 18:24   Link #31083
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What's actually left to negotiate while the Government is shut down? Health Care has fallen to the side of the debate (due in part to Obama and the Democrats refusing to talk about the stupidity of closing the Government over refusing to pay for a law) and all that is left is regular dIscussion over fiscal responsibility, which doesn't need a governmental shut down to be discussed (it's also ironically fiscally irresponsible to discuss fiscal responsibility while the shut down is forcing the country to lose money). So what is the point of this continued shut down? The Republicans are not in a position to negotiate anything while they continue to keep the shut down going...
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Old 2013-10-10, 18:32   Link #31084
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Stop and think for a second if the tactic that Obama used became commonplace in the future. I'm shutting down the government until abortion is banned. I'm shutting down the government until every gun in the country is confiscated. Extreme examples but you get the point. This is why negotiation exists, you offer things up to get the other party to cooperate. Except Obama is flat-out refusing to do it, but somehow it's all the republicans' fault. Don't be stupid.
Except Obama didn't get the things he wanted made into law by threatening to destroy the country. He got it passed through Congress. He got it affirmed by the Supreme Court. At no point did Obama mandate that his legislation be passed by threatening to destroy the country.

The behavior you're describing is what the Republicans are doing. They're the ones who are bypassing the fact that they can't actually get the legislation through congress by threatening to destroy the country. They're the ones who knew that the only way they could get the Democrats to acquiesce to their demand that existing legislature be destroyed would be if they added the penalty of the debt ceiling being reached if their demands weren't met. The Democrats aren't the ones you need to worry about doing this nonsense in the future. It's the Republicans. Here's a factoid. Obama wants a long term debt ceiling approved. The Republicans only want it extended 6 weeks. Why is that? If both parties are equally responsible for this mess, shouldn't they both be wanting to avoid it happening in the future equally? Unless of course the Republicans are actually the hostage takers in this situation, and eager to engineer a situation where they can take more hostages again.


Obama is the one asking that the gun be put out of reach so that nobody can get hurt. The republicans are the ones who want to keep it within reach so they can ensure that somebody can get hurt.

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So what is the point of this continued shut down?
So that the Republicans don't look like irresponsible idiots.
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Old 2013-10-10, 19:16   Link #31085
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The republicans will fund the government with something out and democrats won't fund government unless something is in. This is bad, pathetic behaviour on both sides. Just what is your criteria for assigning all the blame on the republicans?

Stop and think for a second if the tactic that Obama used became commonplace in the future. I'm shutting down the government until abortion is banned. I'm shutting down the government until every gun in the country is confiscated. Extreme examples but you get the point. This is why negotiation exists, you offer things up to get the other party to cooperate. Except Obama is flat-out refusing to do it, but somehow it's all the republicans' fault. Don't be stupid.
What ? I.. I don't even...what ?

On another note, I'm starting to think Indian politicians are better than Republicans(a small portion, I hope). At least, they seem to have a very tiny bit of common sense and self-respect.
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Old 2013-10-10, 19:21   Link #31086
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What ? I.. I don't even...what ?

On another note, I'm starting to think Indian politicians are better than Republicans(a small portion, I hope). At least, they seem to have a very tiny bit of common sense and self-respect.
Currently my interpretation is that Indian politicians are more weary of the population, while Republicans seemed to have threw caution into the wind.

I mean, if Byakou genuinely believe every word he typed, then why should Republicans care what they do at all? Just do anything they want and both sides gets blamed equally no matter what.
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Old 2013-10-10, 19:23   Link #31087
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Now the person who wrote that article Byakou is refering to, is not the greatest spin doctor ever, but still, no matter how bad the article is in trying to pervert the identities of victim and perpetrator, some people will still fall for it. Its a bias in thinking that usualy takes years of conditioning, imprinting the thought patterns necessary to see a reason where there is none.

So, regardless of what is said here and now, this way of thinking cannot be undone by a few posts of users. So, why bother?
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Old 2013-10-10, 19:35   Link #31088
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Conservatives view things differently and have reasons of there own why they feel the Republican Party is at lrast justified in denying the President.

Particularly on the ACA. The primary belief seems to be that that Act was shoved through Congress when it was out of session with perhaps a quorum present, maybe. They want it gone as their constituants are of the belief that they don't want the ACA at all.

While they've reduced the retoric on calling him a non-native (those that still believe he was born in Kenya), they still call him a muslim based on his living in Indonisia. Does Obama say he is muslim in his book, since that is the source they tend to site, though I doubt any have read it themselves give the amount of loathing I hear from them.
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Old 2013-10-10, 19:39   Link #31089
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Now the person who wrote that article Byakou is refering to, is not the greatest spin doctor ever, but still, no matter how bad the article is in trying to pervert the identities of victim and perpetrator, some people will still fall for it. Its a bias in thinking that usualy takes years of conditioning, imprinting the thought patterns necessary to see a reason where there is none.

So, regardless of what is said here and now, this way of thinking cannot be undone by a few posts of users. So, why bother?
The fact is the rest of the world is looking at the United States and see that Republicans are acting like the American voters are in a literal sense, stupid.

We bother, because some of us believe Americans are not as stupid as Republicans say they are. But we can always be proven wrong when we see the result of the next election.

Personally I don't care if I can't change Byakou 's mind. I do care that I will call him out on what I see as blatant incorrect logic.
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Old 2013-10-10, 21:11   Link #31090
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Feds will let states pay to reopen national parks
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...10-10-21-24-54

Freeze of aid whips up anti-US sentiment in Egypt
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...10-10-18-41-32
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Old 2013-10-10, 22:15   Link #31091
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WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. government's aggressive prosecution of leaks and efforts to control information are having a chilling effect on journalists and government whistle-blowers, according to a report released Thursday on U.S. press freedoms under the Obama administration.
The Committee to Protect Journalists conducted its first examination of U.S. press freedoms amid the Obama administration's unprecedented number of prosecutions of government sources and seizures of journalists' records. Usually the group focuses on advocating for press freedoms abroad.
Leonard Downie Jr., a former executive editor of The Washington Post, wrote the 30-page analysis entitled "The Obama Administration and the Press." The report notes President Barack Obama came into office pledging an open, transparent government after criticizing the Bush administration's secrecy, "but he has fallen short of his promise."


http://www.sfgate.com/news/us/articl...sm-4884506.php

was this the changes you guys were looking for in 08?
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Old 2013-10-10, 22:27   Link #31092
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I support an even greater crackdown on those fake "journalists".
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Old 2013-10-10, 22:40   Link #31093
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I support an even greater crackdown on those fake "journalists".
There are no fake journalists, only stuff that are reported from a different perspective.

The outrageousness is for the reader to decide, and the ambiguity is for the reader to research on.

Everything else is an opinion.
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Old 2013-10-10, 23:30   Link #31094
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There are no fake journalists, only stuff that are reported from a different perspective.

The outrageousness is for the reader to decide, and the ambiguity is for the reader to research on.

Everything else is an opinion.
Actually I think opinions should be labeled as such, instead of presenting it as news
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Old 2013-10-10, 23:32   Link #31095
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Actually I think opinions should be labeled as such, instead of presenting it as news
USUALLY it is. The problem is that the readers seem to take anything that is written in a newspaper as news.
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Old 2013-10-11, 00:04   Link #31096
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News is what you want to hear, after all.
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Old 2013-10-11, 04:18   Link #31097
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Here's news worth reading on...

Chemical weapons watchdog OPCW wins Nobel Peace Prize

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/1...99A06G20131011

Abeit in the live press conference, the NP criticized countries that aren't members of it, including America and Russia.
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Old 2013-10-11, 07:24   Link #31098
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Shorten training periods for NSmen: Yahoo Answers users on national service system

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Cut the length and frequency of in-camp and remedial training required for national servicemen (NSmen).

This was the most common suggestion of Yahoo Answers users when asked for their views on whether employers in Singapore discriminated against those with NS commitments and what could possibly be done to counter that.

"I feel that the duration of a two-week high-key ICT (in-camp training) can be further reduced to say, seven or eight days," wrote a user going by the moniker Wilson, who said that a lot of time in training is actually wasted waiting around.

Exercise objectives could be met by conducting the training more efficiently, plus it would boost the morale and NSmen and reduce the amount of taxpayers’ money used for ICT, he pointed out.

The discussion on perceived workplace discrimination arose from a recently-released survey by the Institute of Policy Studies on the attitudes towards NS, which found that some 42.1 per cent of employed NSmen believed employers prefer to hire staff with no NS commitments.

On IPPT and remedial training

Wilson, alongside other respondents, also voiced concern over the length and duration of reservist training (RT), which is needed if the NSmen fail their annual Individual Physical Proficiency Test (IPPT).

"(The IPPT/RT system) is a waste of time and will get us fired," wrote user Derrick T. "What's the point of having so much in-camp training? All we need is to refresh our skills and not to be labourers."

Wilson noted that weekday RT sessions could be timed later so that NSmen going for remedial training do not need to seek permission to leave the office early.

"RT should not be viewed as a measure to penalise NSmen who fail their IPPT… (it) should (instead) help NSmen lead a more healthy lifestyle for the sake of their family and country," he wrote. "No NSman in his right mind would purposely want to fail IPPT, (and) sometimes we don't know what the other fellow is going through that results in his failure to pass."

User J, who said he is an employer as well, said he hopes to see the entire reservist system, coupled with its annual IPPTs, scrapped.

"If not, make the reservist period two years, with a maximum five-day commitment per year," he said, admitting that he himself avoids hiring people with NS liabilities unless there are others in the same department who can cover their duties.

"If the person has a specialised job scope, I will try to get someone else, and if the person is in a single-man department, it will pose problems," he wrote candidly, noting that jobs that involve frequent travel are also more troublesome for NS-liable staff, who need to declare each trip they make. "Males should not lose out in the job market because of NS."

Some also called for a reduction in the full-time NS period, while others said first-generation new citizens and PRs of suitable age and fitness should serve as well to ease the burden on Singaporean males.

"As a mother of an NSman-to-be, I strongly feel that NS has become a liability to our boys," wrote a user called LeeLee. "We should reduce the two years to one to one and a half years… since the government always advocates that there is no sacred cow, this period should be reviewed."

Can employers work around NS commitments?

Companies in Singapore can work around NS commitments but would prefer to avoid having to in the first place, believed many of the Yahoo Answers users.

User Leonard shared that many small companies try to avoid hiring NSmen, and when they need to hire them to fill their Singaporean worker quota, the ones they do pick either are exempt from taking their IPPT, and in some cases, from ICT as well.

"(In my wife's company), her boss did have people who went for ICT and caused major problems for the company, so after a year's contract, the company did not renew (it) for him," he wrote. "I guess this could be going on elsewhere too (and it makes me) kind of sad."

To user Whyte, discrimination practiced against NSmen is similar to that faced by pregnant women.

"The bottom line is that if you can be away from your job for two weeks to a month, it simply means you're redundant and can be dismissed," he wrote. "If you can't be away and have to because of NS obligations, the company will have no choice but to have someone else cover your duties.”

User Aks believes that ensuring that given NSmen’s sacrifice, they should be given first priority for jobs and further studies. "Giving out $80 worth of vouchers will not make the problems disappear,” he said.

For user Nothingtodo, compulsory NS duties for locals should be balanced with checks on foreign employment.

"The government should come up with a rule and penalty for non-NS serving employees (foreigners who are here purely for economic gains)," he wrote. "Tax levy for any non-NS-serving employee, payable by all employers, women and (non-NS-liable) alike… when you put check valves on easier routes, the water will ultimately arrive at the same location from every point."

Companies that are supportive of Nsmen and their commitments should also be lauded, say users Lim Annie and Jiwon.

"Give cash bonuses to companies that have high percentages of NSmen employed," wrote Lim Annie. "NS men should be well-taken can of by our Singapore government. NSmen are protectors to our nation."

Added Jiwon, "I really hope the government can promote companies that fully support reservist and really help NS men to attend our reservist and RT without us having to worry about work."

Yahoo Singapore has reached out to the Ministry of Defence for comment on the issue.
Actually that part is true. I used to work for an MNC where the slut I had for my supervisor was commenting about us Singaporeans having to "take off for NS" behind our backs and a "productivity liability".

I am probably not the only ex-soldier on the forum, there are many here who had worse fighting in another country. What are the employment prospects and the general view towards people like you through the eyes of glaucomic managers who profit from your duties to keeping them safe?
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Old 2013-10-11, 07:44   Link #31099
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Particularly on the ACA. The primary belief seems to be that that Act was shoved through Congress when it was out of session with perhaps a quorum present, maybe. They want it gone as their constituants are of the belief that they don't want the ACA at all.
If true, that shows just how far removed from reality these people are. The vote on final passage in the House was 219-212, with four Members not voting. In the Senate it passed by 60-39 with one Senator not voting.

Most people still have little idea what the ACA contains. Polling over the past couple of years shows that citizens support the various provisions of the ACA, particularly the requirement that insurers cover people with pre-existing conditions and the requirement that insurers let parents keep their children on their insurance until age 26. Yet when asked if they favor "Obamacare" they say no. One obvious reason for this is the use of the name "Obamacare." When asked if they support the "Affordable Care Act" the proportion of people who favor the law increases.

The provision that draws the most ire is the "individual mandate," the requirement that everyone have insurance or pay a nominal fine if they choose not to. Nobody likes to be mandated to do anything, but without the mandate the rule about pre-existing conditions would not work. Healthier people would decline the insurance and make the total pool of insureds uneconomically composed of sicker Americans. Universal health care is another, in my mind better, solution to this problem, but there were simply not enough votes in Congress for an extension of Medicare to cover all Americans.

I live in Massachusetts with "Romneycare," the model for the ACA. Since we already have insurance, compliance with the law consists of filing an additional form with our state income tax each spring. Those same provisions apply under the ACA despite the propaganda from the right that the law will end people's existing coverage, force them to change doctors, or similar lies.

Another common misconception is that the ACA is driving insurance costs upward. In fact, health costs in the past couple of years have risen at their slowest rate in decades and actually declined in May for the first time since the 1970s. One analyst at the Kaiser Family Foundation, the premiere organization concerned with health coverage and outcomes, attributed the slowdown in medical inflation in part to providers' adapting to new regulations contained in the ACA.

One reason ordinary people may not see these cost declines is that the nature of insurance has changed rapidly over the past decade, with the insureds being forced to pick up a larger share of costs through co-payments. Most people do not pay their insurance premiums themselves but receive coverage through their employers. Thus while the employers see their health costs slowing, the employees find themselves paying more out-of-pocket for things like doctors visits.
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Old 2013-10-11, 07:53   Link #31100
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Obama, Republicans aim to end crisis after meeting, hurdles remain

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(Reuters) - President Barack Obama and Republican leaders appeared ready to end a political crisis that has shuttered much of the U.S. government and pushed the country dangerously close to default after meeting at the White House on Thursday.

No deal emerged from the 90-minute meeting, but talks continued into the night in an effort to re-open the government and extend the government's borrowing authority beyond an October 17 deadline. One senior Republican said an agreement could come on Friday, though hurdles remain.

The plummeting standing of congressional Republicans in public opinion polls helped spur a move toward ending the standoff, Oklahoma Republican Representative James Lankford said on CNN Thursday night. The latest, an NBC-Wall Street Journal survey published on Thursday, showed the public blaming Republicans by a 22-point margin - 53 to 31 percent.

The President's meeting with Republican leaders was the first sign of a thaw in a 10-day standoff that has weighed on financial markets and knocked hundreds of thousands of federal employees out of work.

"It was a very adult conversation," said Republican Representative Hal Rogers, who attended the meeting. "Both sides said they were there in good faith."

Republicans in the meeting offered to extend the government's borrowing authority for several weeks, temporarily putting off a default that otherwise could come as soon as next week. Obama pushed to also reopen government operations that have been closed since October 1.

Significantly, Republicans seemed to be steering clear of the restrictions on Obama's healthcare reforms and spending that prompted the crisis in the first place. Instead, negotiations centered on how far to extend the debt limit and how much funding they would provide the government when it opens, according to Republicans.

The two sides are working on "defining parameters to see if we can make progress," said Republican Representative Pete Sessions, a member of the leadership.

"The President looks forward to making continued progress with members on both sides of the aisle," the White House said in a statement.

The proposal is a significant shift for Republicans, who had hoped to use the threat of a shutdown and a default to undermine Obama's healthcare law.

But they have been hammered in opinion polls and pressured by allies in the business community who worry the brinkmanship is killing jobs and slowing the economy. Republicans worry that the standoff could imperil lawmakers in competitive districts, giving Democrats an increased chance of winning control of the House next year.

Now Republicans hope a short-term debt-limit extension, perhaps until the middle or end of November, will buy time to seek spending cuts, a repeal of a medical-device tax, or other measures they say are needed to keep the national debt at a manageable level.

Conflicting reports of the outcome of the meeting sent immediate ripples through financial markets. U.S. equity index futures tracking the S&P 500 index dropped after a report that Obama had rejected the Republican offer, but rose when details of the meeting trickled out. Major U.S. equity indexes closed 2 percent higher earlier on Thursday on hopes of a deal.

DIDN'T STOP OBAMACARE

The crisis began in late September when Republicans tied continued government funding to measures that would undercut the Affordable Care Act, Obama's signature legislative accomplishment.

The gambit didn't work, as "Obamacare" unveiled its online health-insurance exchanges on October 1 even as much of the rest of the government shut down. Even so, the exchanges have been plagued by serious technical problems unrelated to the shutdown.

In recent days, Republican leaders have emphasized other goals, such as reining in the retirement and health benefit programs that pose a long-term threat to the country's fiscal health.

For the first time in weeks, lawmakers from both parties predicted they would be able to resolve their differences.

"Both sides will be able to claim victory," said Democratic Representative Chaka Fattah of Pennsylvania.

Many hurdles remain. Obama has said he will not negotiate on anything until Republicans agree to reopen the government and remove the threat of immediate default.

Rank-and-file Republican conservatives who remain focused on defeating "Obamacare" also could reject the deal. Even if disaster is averted for now, the entire dispute could come to the fore again when the temporary agreement expires.

House Speaker John Boehner's grip over his troops has been tenuous this year and many of the chamber's most conservative lawmakers have defied him repeatedly on other crucial votes.

Boehner has taken pains to show his party's most rebellious members that he listens to their concerns. He took a different approach when he told them of his plan to extend the debt ceiling.

"He put his best Coach Boehner voice and demeanor on and said, 'Guys, this is what we are going to do. The play has been called. I'm happy to answer questions,'" said Republican Representative Tom Cole of Oklahoma.

The Obama administration says it will be unable to pay all of its bills if Congress does not raise the $16.7 trillion debt ceiling by October 17. Treasury Secretary Jack Lew said he would be unable to prioritize some payments over others among the 30 million transactions his department handles each week.

"It would be chaos," Lew told the Senate Finance Committee.

But Lew and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke told their counterparts of the G20 group of economies on Thursday that the standoff over the debt ceiling will be resolved by October 17, Russian Finance Minister Anton Siluanov said.

"Colleagues from the U.S. Treasury and the Federal Reserve have said that they hope to solve the issue soon. They said that the problem will be solved by the 17th," Siluanov told reporters after a dinner with G20 counterparts gathering on the sidelines of the IMF/World Bank meetings.

"It's an important issue for everyone. Both Lew and Bernanke believe that these difficulties can be overcome soon," Siluanov added.

Democrats who control the Senate are readying a vote, possibly on Saturday, that would extend government borrowing authority for more than a year, rather than the weeks-long time frame Republicans have proposed. Still, they did not entirely dismiss the Republican plan.

"Let's see what they have offered," House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi said.

House leaders canceled a recess planned for next week and said they would remain in Washington instead.

Opinion polls indicate that Republicans appear to be getting more of the blame for the standoff. The NBC/Wall Street Journal poll released on Thursday found approval of the Republican Party at 24 percent, a record low. Democrats won the approval of 39 percent of the U.S. public.

Business groups that have close ties to the Republican Party have pressed for an end to the brinkmanship and some are laying plans to mount primary challenges next year to lawmakers who refuse to raise the debt ceiling.

Hundreds of thousands of federal employees have been thrown out of work by the shutdown and individual businesses, from arms makers to motels, have begun to lay off workers as well.

The Labor Department said on Thursday that 15,000 private-sector workers have filed for unemployment benefits due to the shutdown.
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