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Old 2013-10-22, 16:38   Link #31381
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"Peter Schweizer lays out gory excerpts from his book, Extortion: How Politicians
Extract Your Money, Buy Votes and Line Their Own Pockets in the New York Times. It
makes depressing reading, but it is also very illuminating.

Schweizer describes “John Boehner’s ‘Tollbooth’, by which the Speaker of the House
extracts money by soliciting political donations before he holds crucial votes on the
House floor. He details the Obama “Protection Money” racket, where the Administration
targets industries for criminal investigation but passes over the lintels of those who are
key political donors. Doubtless Schweizer regales us with many other forms of this
activity, but they boil down to the same thing."

See:

http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/...nobody-but-us/
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Old 2013-10-22, 16:50   Link #31382
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When I think the human rights situation can't worsen in the USA, I am unpleasantly surprised; Call Yourself A Hacker, Lose Your 4th Amendment Rights.
this is the problem when the judges presiding over cases involve tech don't even how to turn a computer on.

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"Peter Schweizer lays out gory excerpts from his book, Extortion: How Politicians
Extract Your Money, Buy Votes and Line Their Own Pockets in the New York Times. It
makes depressing reading, but it is also very illuminating.

Schweizer describes “John Boehner’s ‘Tollbooth’, by which the Speaker of the House
extracts money by soliciting political donations before he holds crucial votes on the
House floor. He details the Obama “Protection Money” racket, where the Administration
targets industries for criminal investigation but passes over the lintels of those who are
key political donors. Doubtless Schweizer regales us with many other forms of this
activity, but they boil down to the same thing."

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http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/...nobody-but-us/
and you are surprise
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Old 2013-10-22, 17:17   Link #31383
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this is the problem when the judges presiding over cases involve tech don't even how to turn a computer on.
That was problematic twenty years ago when computers were a niche (but relevant) product, now that computers are part of most citizens daily life (rednecks need not apply) this is very very disturbing. It is like having a computer company run by that kind of ignorant people, you all know what happened then, right? Same thing could happen to the whole country.
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Old 2013-10-22, 17:45   Link #31384
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I'd be very surprised if that decision withstood appeal solely on the basis of claims about being a "hacker" on the guy's website. And before we all jump to conclusions, I'm sure there have been many other court orders allowing equipment seizures on equally flimsy claims.

There are other issues involved though. Hacking into a computer system is a felony in the US. If there is evidence that the defendant did connect to the Batelle computers for any unauthorized purpose after he left their employ, he is almost certainly in violation of Federal law.

Then we have this rather stupid comment from the article:
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In simple terms, the suit alleges that Corey stole the code and violated agreements with INL. I have no idea if he stole the code or what he signed while at INL. He probably had the code, but again the idea is hardly novel. He could have started over with a next generation product on his own. A look at the code would provide the answer, and the answer may be somewhere in the middle as it so often is.
If he stole the code or violated his agreements with INL, that's that. The judge may sound stupid, but stealing is still a crime.

I have no sympathy for the defendant.
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Old 2013-10-22, 17:46   Link #31385
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When I think the human rights situation can't worsen in the USA, I am unpleasantly surprised; Call Yourself A Hacker, Lose Your 4th Amendment Rights.
They are encouraging the use of the word, "Freelance amateur network tester".

Now we have a new term! FANTer! Beat that, political correctness!

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and you are surprise
Hadn't the US of A did that with Howard Hughes, Thomas Edison and Walt Disney? You know, the concept of COPYRIGHT?
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Old 2013-10-22, 17:52   Link #31386
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They are encouraging the use of the word, "Freelance amateur programmer".

Now we have a new term! FAPer! Beat that, political correctness!
There, corrected it for you
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Old 2013-10-22, 17:58   Link #31387
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There, corrected it for you
Hacker is a very generic term; some of which are script-kiddies to hardcore coders who spend more time programming than sleeping.

Then again, hacking can range from network penetration to overcoming DRM. So "Programmer" is indeed a better term.

Also :

Slain teacher called hero for giving Nevada children time to flee

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(Reuters) - A popular math teacher shot dead by a 12-year-old boy at a Nevada middle school was praised as a hero on Tuesday, a day after he was gunned down when he stepped into the shooter's line of fire, giving students time to flee to safety.

The boy, armed with a gun police said he likely took from home, opened fire on the schoolyard on Monday, killing the teacher and wounding two other 12-year-olds just before the opening bell at the school in the northern Nevada town of Sparks.

As police seek to determine a motive, they are also hailing the actions of slain teacher Michael Landsberry and say more students could have been hurt if staff members had not rushed children into classrooms from the school yard.

The head of the school district's police force said that, after the attacker shot a 12-year-old boy in the shoulder, Landsberry "calmly walked toward the shooter, putting his hands up in a motion to try to stop" him and was shot in the chest.

"Mr. Landsberry's heroic actions by stepping toward the shooter allowed time for other students on the playground area to flee the area," said Washoe County School District Police Chief Mike Mieras.

The boy shot the teacher to death on a basketball court, according to Sparks deputy police chief Tom Miller. Afterward, he shot another student in the abdomen before walking away and shooting himself in the head.

Landsberry, 45, was a former Marine who also served in the Nevada Air National Guard, had taught at Sparks Middle School since 2006 and coached basketball, volleyball and soccer teams, Mieras said.

The incident was the latest in a string of shooting rampages across the United States in recent years, including one in December at a Connecticut elementary school that killed 20 students and six adults and helped reignite a national debate over gun control.

The two 12-year-old boys wounded in the shooting in Sparks, located just east of Reno near the California border, were rushed to a Reno hospital and their conditions are not life-threatening, officials said.

Police have so far not identified the young shooter, although they have said he used a Ruger 9mm semi-automatic handgun in the shooting.

"We believe that the student got it from his residence," Miller said, adding that the parents could potentially face charges for not preventing the boy from making off with the gun.

"That is basically a question for the local prosecutor, but the potential is there."
Kind of ironic that he died in the hands of what he fought to protect as a soldier.
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Old 2013-10-22, 18:22   Link #31388
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Old 2013-10-22, 19:18   Link #31389
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Considering the fact that gay marriage has been legalised recently in another state, the holy text rings true : he who lies with another man in bed shall be stoned.
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Old 2013-10-22, 22:00   Link #31390
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In curiocity what would the Vietnamese, Southeast Asian, and others think of this documentary from 1971 called "Night of the Dragon" on South Vetnam's efforts against the North. I saw it for the first time tonight and wondered what was thought of it now. This is in relation to the recent death of the Vietnamese general who defeated South Vietnam just this month.

The poster on Youtube has their own thoughts, but they have little to do with the documentary (narrated by Charlton Heston).

http://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=P...80EB9D468B02C8
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Old 2013-10-22, 23:03   Link #31391
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Disney aired a little segment where a little boy suggested the best way to solve the debt crisis is to kill everyone in China.

Man, Perhaps we should have them do a encore on how to solve the Arab-Israeli crisis by killing all the < > in the middle east, or perhaps a crime reduction initiative by killing all the < >.

:Faceplam: Disney, you know this is going to do wonders to your rating in China right?
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Old 2013-10-22, 23:16   Link #31392
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Disney aired a little segment where a little boy suggested the best way to solve the debt crisis is to kill everyone in China.



Man, Perhaps we should have them do a encore on how to solve the Arab-Israeli crisis by killing all the < > in the middle east, or perhaps a crime reduction initiative by killing all the < >.

:Faceplam: Disney, you know this is going to do wonders to your rating in China right?
Then who would the Treasury bonds transfer to?
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Old 2013-10-22, 23:34   Link #31393
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Disney aired a little segment where a little boy suggested the best way to solve the debt crisis is to kill everyone in China.



Man, Perhaps we should have them do a encore on how to solve the Arab-Israeli crisis by killing all the < > in the middle east, or perhaps a crime reduction initiative by killing all the < >.

:Faceplam: Disney, you know this is going to do wonders to your rating in China right?
Well, to be fair, it's meant as a satire, but as an adult, the producer in Disney should know better than air this Also, it's kinda concerning that the first idea that popped up in that child(if it's not scripted) is killing people to solve problem. Child that age should think something like "ask Genie for more money" rather than killing people ><
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Old 2013-10-23, 00:01   Link #31394
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I would expect the child's father to be one of the more vocal individuals that subscribes to the "nuke them all, let God sort them out" policies for international relations.
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Old 2013-10-23, 01:41   Link #31395
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Then we have this rather stupid comment from the article:

If he stole the code or violated his agreements with INL, that's that. The judge may sound stupid, but stealing is still a crime.
So? The author isn't denying that. He's saying that, guilty or not, the defendant (who at this stage is still presumed innocent) still has rights. Even if he was accused of murder, which he isn't, he'd still have the right to an attorney, and he'd still have his 4th amendment rights, which I'm sure you know better than I do.
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Old 2013-10-23, 03:38   Link #31396
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Well, to be fair, it's meant as a satire, but as an adult, the producer in Disney should know better than air this
"Any press is good press"


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Also, it's kinda concerning that the first idea that popped up in that child(if it's not scripted) is killing people to solve problem. Child that age should think something like "ask Genie for more money" rather than killing people ><
That kid's smarter than the average kid
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Old 2013-10-23, 06:13   Link #31397
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http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...10-23-07-02-37

Trial to examine if Detroit eligible in bankruptcy
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...10-23-01-16-37
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Old 2013-10-23, 07:59   Link #31398
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So? The author isn't denying that. He's saying that, guilty or not, the defendant (who at this stage is still presumed innocent) still has rights. Even if he was accused of murder, which he isn't, he'd still have the right to an attorney, and he'd still have his 4th amendment rights, which I'm sure you know better than I do.
Not all court orders that involve seizures require prior notice. If they did, there's a good chance the evidence being sought would disappear. There are complex legal issues involved here, based on centuries of litigation over Fourth Amendment rights. I doubt the author of the piece has a legal background, nor do I. But to assume that the seizure violated the defendant's rights is more an ideological than a legal opinion.

As I said, if the judge's decision is so outlandish, the defendant can appeal. If he wins, the evidence will be ruled inadmissible.
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Old 2013-10-23, 08:51   Link #31399
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That kid's smarter than the average kid
You know, there is less than $50 billion difference between China and Japan right? So from a pure cost saving prospective, nuke Japan would be an better deal .

Still, the biggest holder of U.S Debt is U.S itself. Namely Social Security. Perhaps we should kill all the babyboomers instead?
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^ Also don't forget "non-principal" based mezzanine indebtedness.

Basically anything that trusts any gov't entity to make payment on a regular or scheduled basis without explicit terms of debt or registered security.
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