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Old 2013-10-28, 19:03   Link #31561
ArchmageXin
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Spy agencies have shown a remarkable ability to avoid the consequences of their actions. The most serious kerfuffle in the last few years I can recall was the assassination of Mahmoud al-Mabhouh, and I don't see Mossad hurting too much over it.
That is because

1) Israel has atomics.

2) Israel is protected by the American Government and Media.

If Mossad aced Putin's daughter instead, today Israel would had only existed as a historical ruin.
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Old 2013-10-28, 19:37   Link #31562
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That's assuming Obama knew about the bugging. Ordering that a dossier be compiled isn't exactly the same as ordering that cell phones be bugged.
What took you so long to post that?

That dossier would have just been entitled "Information collection with regards to political alliances". Obama would have just overlooke it in favour of more pressing matters and blindly signed.
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Old 2013-10-29, 01:20   Link #31563
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What took you so long to post that?
Been busy with stuff.
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Old 2013-10-29, 06:59   Link #31564
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More than 25,000 North Koreans have defected to South Korea in the last 60 years in search of a better life. It is incredibly rare for them to pass anyone trying to sneak over the border the other way.
On Friday six men and the corpse of a woman were sent back from North Korea after an ill-fated trip which, an official in Seoul has now revealed, stemmed from “vague hopes” they would be well-treated in the Communist state.
After posting a series of pro-North Korea messages online, one of the men saw his pen name appear in the state’s main newspaper, Rodong Sinmun, and as a result thought he would be welcomed in the country.
Others were suffering from business failures or family troubles, and believed defection represented an opportunity for a fresh start.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...s-8909299.html
They seem very unable to play the PR propaganda game at all...You have people wanting to go to your shit hole and you still ill treat them instead of using it as a propaganda coup
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Old 2013-10-29, 08:29   Link #31565
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They seem very unable to play the PR propaganda game at all...You have people wanting to go to your shit hole and you still ill treat them instead of using it as a propaganda coup
I'd imagine that it's simply a matter that the guys on the Northern border are just completely unused to actually dealing with people who WANT to come to the North.
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Old 2013-10-29, 08:32   Link #31566
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Been busy with stuff.
Didn't mean that as an offense. Was trying to put what you said forward a page earlier but had trouble putting words together.

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They seem very unable to play the PR propaganda game at all...You have people wanting to go to your shit hole and you still ill treat them instead of using it as a propaganda coup
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I'd imagine that it's simply a matter that the guys on the Northern border are just completely unused to actually dealing with people who WANT to come to the North.
Maybe they can't afford it?

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Insight: U.S. Congress finds cure for gridlock in water

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(Reuters) - The U.S. House of Representatives has rediscovered the formula for peace, harmony and an end to gridlock after a month of partisan warfare: $8 billion worth of harbor dredging, dam and lock construction and other federal waterway improvements.
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Old 2013-10-29, 09:15   Link #31567
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Insight: U.S. Congress finds cure for gridlock in water
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...99S04Y20131029

Exclusive: China central bank seeks to reassure money markets after rate spike
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...99S09K20131029

Judge blocks part of Texas law restricting abortion
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...99R12M20131028
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Old 2013-10-29, 14:02   Link #31568
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England:Innocent man burnt to death after being mistaken for a pedophile

Bijan Ebrahimi, 44, had taken photos of local youths vandalizing his flower pots. He had planned to hand them over to the police.

Someone saw him taking photos and reported him as a pedophile. Police took him for questioning then released him. By then rumours had spread through the neighbourhood.

Two local men took upon themselves to beat him up then set him on fire.

This is the sort of thing you'd expect to hear in some undeveloped third world country, not Bristol, England.
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Old 2013-10-29, 14:41   Link #31569
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England:Innocent man burnt to death after being mistaken for a pedophile

Bijan Ebrahimi, 44, had taken photos of local youths vandalizing his flower pots. He had planned to hand them over to the police.

Someone saw him taking photos and reported him as a pedophile. Police took him for questioning then released him. By then rumours had spread through the neighbourhood.

Two local men took upon themselves to beat him up then set him on fire.

This is the sort of thing you'd expect to hear in some undeveloped third world country, not Bristol, England.
What a truly atrocious thing to happen, an innocent man being accused of such crimes; and dying like this just because he tried to protect his plants from vandals. I'm not even sure the vandals will even get punished for all that they did to his flowers either.
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Old 2013-10-29, 15:27   Link #31570
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NSA official: 'We're really screwed now':

"The National Security Agency is reportedly reeling from comments made by Senate
Intelligence Committee Chairman Dianne Feinstein — one of the agency's staunchest
defenders — in the wake of revelations that the NSA spied on foreign leaders, including
German Chancellor Angela Merkel."

"According to Foreign Policy magazine, Feinstein's public reversal shocked at least one
NSA official.

"We're really screwed now," the official said. "You know things are bad when the few
friends you've got disappear without a trace in the dead of night and leave no
forwarding address.""

See:

http://news.yahoo.com/nsa-really-scr...132859079.html
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Old 2013-10-29, 19:20   Link #31571
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U.S. lawmakers call for action to curb Internet child trading
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...99S1A320131029

In new U.S. budget talks, Republican proposal has flipped the script
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...99S1BN20131029

Defiant Israel returns to U.N. rights forum
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...99S0X920131029
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Old 2013-10-29, 20:51   Link #31572
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What a truly atrocious thing to happen, an innocent man being accused of such crimes; and dying like this just because he tried to protect his plants from vandals. I'm not even sure the vandals will even get punished for all that they did to his flowers either.
Forget about the vandals, I would like the killer to be punished for life. I don't think vigilante justice is a valid excuse for killing someone in England right?
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Old 2013-10-29, 21:28   Link #31573
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Umm..satirical websites probably shouldn't be referenced in the 'serious' news thread?
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Old 2013-10-30, 00:36   Link #31574
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Forget about the vandals, I would like the killer to be punished for life. I don't think vigilante justice is a valid excuse for killing someone in England right?
Of course not but when that man was accused of being a pedophile he was trying to catch the vandals red-handed. Plus he actually succeeded so, as well as the killers I'd like to see the vandals punished. At least so the poor man's efforts weren't in vain.
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Old 2013-10-30, 06:51   Link #31575
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China to step up own security after new NSA allegations
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...99T0BR20131030

Google takes secrecy to new heights with mystery barge
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...99T02L20131030
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Old 2013-10-30, 06:59   Link #31576
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Yeah I guess it could happen to anyone

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...nife-head.html
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Old 2013-10-30, 07:56   Link #31577
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Now THIS is interesting :

The 40-year energy myth

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This week marks the 40th anniversary of the 1973 oil embargo, when Middle Eastern producers, the members of OPEC, temporarily banned imports to the US to protest its support of Israel in the 1973 Yom Kippur war. “Crude-oil prices spiked, fuel lines snaked behind gas stations and years of stagflation followed”, writes the WSJ. Every president since has made a push to reduce the country’s dependence on foreign oil — despite the fact that US consumers cannot divorce themselves from global oil prices.

Eight presidents and several Middle Eastern armed conflicts later, the US is scheduled to become energy independent by 2020. As of this year, the US is the largest producer of petroleum and natural gas in the world, squarely outpacing Russia for the first time, largely thanks to increased production of shale gas through controversial fracking practices.

What does that mean for Americans? Not much, in the individual sense. As Quoctrung Bui explains, retail energy costs haven’t gone down much, even as the wholesale price of natural gas has plummeted, because much of your electricity bill comes from building and maintaining infrastructure.

Energy independence has much more to do with macroeconomics and foreign policy than the price Americans pay for energy. The conventional wisdom (slash political talking point on both sides) is that cutting foreign oil dependence reduces economic vulnerability, with the example being the effects of the 1973 oil shock.

But Gal Luft and Anne Korin argue in this month’s Foreign Affairs that high oil prices, which first surfaced around the time of the 1973 embargo, have little to do with where the oil is coming from. America, they write, has never gotten more than 15% of its oil from the Middle East and half of our imports come from the Western Hemisphere. The 1973 oil shock was caused by OPEC artificially reducing the world’s oil supply for their own profit, which is what sent the global price skyrocketing (and has kept it high). Because so much of the global supply is produced but other nations, the US can’t control the price even if it is “energy independent”:

If investor-owned oil companies such as Exxon, BP, Shell, and Chevron were sitting on top of three-quarters of the world’s conventional oil reserves, they would be supplying something around three-quarters of the world’s oil. And if not, they’d be slapped with an antitrust lawsuit. Antitrust lawsuits, however, don’t work against sovereign governments…

Robert Bryce wrote about the myths behind “foreign oil dependence” back in 2008, noting that oil is a global commodity with a global price, and “anyone who argues that the United States will be more secure by going it alone on energy hasn’t done the homework”.

And that’s essentially the message from a September report by consulting firm Wood Mackenzie. It forecasts that even after becoming technically “energy independent”, North America as a whole will continue to both export and import oil “for the foreseeable future”.
So oil wars will be fought in the US of A in the future?
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Old 2013-10-30, 10:34   Link #31578
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A century or so ago, the US was the top producer of oil and only producer of helium. There have been no wars here over it.
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Old 2013-10-30, 10:55   Link #31579
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A century or so ago, the US was the top producer of oil and only producer of helium. There have been no wars here over it.
That was because the entire world weren't connected/oil dependent a century ago. Plus, the logistic capability to get a large enough army to threaten America wasn't even there.

Think about who was the Globe powers back in 1913. Russia? Nope. China? Nope. Japan? Barely....and the Europeans.

The Europeans were busy conquering Africa, their next door neighbor. While Japan was setting itself up to harass China (before going Hardcore later) and other S.E Asian neighbors.

The only possibility for America to face an oil invasion would be somehow swapping Europe's location with Canada via Magic.
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Old 2013-10-30, 10:59   Link #31580
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The only thing I remember is that America was supplying Japan with oil.
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