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Old 2013-11-06, 09:06   Link #31661
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For now, I just want:

1.The US to finish F-35 and sell them all over the world.

And...

2.Russia delivered to us the remaining Su30MK2V, the third Kilo-class submarine, and not sell Su-35S to China.

All for the sake of halting China espansion.
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Old 2013-11-06, 09:16   Link #31662
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For now, I just want:

1.The US to finish F-35 and sell them all over the world.

And...

2.Russia delivered to us the remaining Su30MK2V, the third Kilo-class submarine, and not sell Su-35S to China.

All for the sake of halting China espansion.
Technically speaking, China has got the world's biggest factories and domestic resource, but with that amount of population they definitely need more.

And they know a war can hurt their economic drive, so they would prefer to buy out those countries with resources first, then when US's regional military influence is no longer a threat, they settle everything else by force.

P.S The F-35 wouldn't be a flying target for China's J-31 if they just fucking removed the VTOL capability and put in AESA radar/ECM extender components.
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Old 2013-11-06, 09:30   Link #31663
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F-35s? Dude, if half of what is written about the F-35 is true, China would do more damage by letting every country overload themselves with F-35s.

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Testifying before a Canadian parliamentary committee in 2011, Rear Admiral Arne Røksund of Norway estimated that his country's 52 F-35 fighter jets will cost $769 million each over their operational lifetime.[105]
That is right, 15.38 million dollars a plane. On maintenance. It will cost U.S gov 1.51 Trillion dollars to cover the cost of the plane through out the 50 years life cycle. And course, that is not including upgrade, overhall etc.
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Old 2013-11-06, 09:38   Link #31664
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Hmm... What about Taiwan, Mongolia and the whole ASEAN? My dear international friends, China is trying to torn every countries into bits, and then openly devouring them raw, when the land still soaked with blood.

Don't mean anything racism - We're all human after all. But correct me if I'm wrong: Didn't China's Conquista Idealogist has existed along with the acient tribles on the Yellow River and then carried to today? For example, if you look closely at the One Hundred Days reform and their decleration, you could spot some sentences about these ideal.
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Old 2013-11-06, 09:59   Link #31665
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Hmm... What about Taiwan, Mongolia and the whole ASEAN? My dear international friends, China is trying to torn every countries into bits, and then openly devouring them raw, when the land still soaked with blood.

Don't mean anything racism - We're all human after all. But correct me if I'm wrong: Didn't China's Conquista Idealogist has existed along with the acient tribles on the Yellow River and then carried to today? For example, if you look closely at the One Hundred Days reform and their decleration, you could spot some sentences about these ideal.
Really? Do I see bombs falling on Tawain? Nope. Marines landing in Manilla? Not really. Tokyo struck with nuclear weapons? Hardly. Massacre in Singapore over a broken railroad? Didn't see it. Agent Orange drops Vietnam over a stray fishing boat? Nope. Terrorist attack in Mumbai? Nope.

So who is China "devouring raw" these days? Dispute some heated words now and then, China is remarkably restrained in her military action.
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Old 2013-11-06, 10:10   Link #31666
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And believe me, that won't keep long. Read this:

http://vietnamdefence.com/Home/phant...1310/52991.vnd

Use Google Translator.

And haven't you know President Xi's "China Dream"?
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Old 2013-11-06, 10:10   Link #31667
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China is simply returning to its traditional role as the regional leader in East Asia. Its size simply renders it hard to prevent its coming back once it gets its shape together. If only China doesn't have so much chips on its shoulder and we're in better enough shape to set our conditions, I wouldn't really mind with Chinese leadership in the region. Alas, by things as they are, it will only lead to terrible things, both in China and the neighborhood.
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Old 2013-11-06, 10:15   Link #31668
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Look like one of my wish is granted:

Russia refused to sell Su-35 to China due to "technical problem"

Read more at: http://vietnamdefence.com/Home/tintu...1311/53048.vnd
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Old 2013-11-06, 12:11   Link #31669
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And believe me, that won't keep long. Read this:

http://vietnamdefence.com/Home/phant...1310/52991.vnd

Use Google Translator.

And haven't you know President Xi's "China Dream"?
You are going to need more creditability than a website called "Vietnam Defense." Plus, if China is really getting serious, you can always hide behind America's armored skirt.

Also, every leader have their "country dreams." If you are bothered too much about dreams. I recommend better sleeping pills.


http://thediplomat.com/flashpoints-b...-fighter-jets/

Oh look, they did make the sale after all. And the crutch of the issue was Russia worried about China reverse engineering the design, than any interest in the reassuring SEAN paranoia.

Edit: Actually, from my reading of recent articles, China really didn't care about the SU-35 but only in its engines. Thus, China only wanted 24 SU-35, while Russia insisted more.
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Old 2013-11-06, 12:28   Link #31670
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Brazil defends spying as 'different' from that of US

Oh the embarrassment and hypocrisy.
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Old 2013-11-06, 12:51   Link #31671
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Brazil defends spying as 'different' from that of US

Oh the embarrassment and hypocrisy.
Actually, they aren't far off.

Brazil is doing traditional spying. I.E bugging embassies, spying on Government centers, etc. Gov on Gov stuff. The "traditional" spying.

America is hitting civilian traffic ALL OVER THE WORLD. That is beyond the pale. It is going to big brother stuff.

Should a Major General working in the Kremlin worry about American bugs? You betcha. Should random Japanese kid in Tokyo worry about NSA sucking up her Email? No.

1984.
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Old 2013-11-06, 14:28   Link #31672
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Actually, they aren't far off.

Brazil is doing traditional spying. I.E bugging embassies, spying on Government centers, etc. Gov on Gov stuff. The "traditional" spying.

America is hitting civilian traffic ALL OVER THE WORLD. That is beyond the pale. It is going to big brother stuff.

Should a Major General working in the Kremlin worry about American bugs? You betcha. Should random Japanese kid in Tokyo worry about NSA sucking up her Email? Yes.

1984.
Don't you mean 'no' for the Japanese kid?
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Old 2013-11-06, 15:18   Link #31673
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http://thediplomat.com/flashpoints-b...-fighter-jets/

Oh look, they did make the sale after all. And the crutch of the issue was Russia worried about China reverse engineering the design, than any interest in the reassuring SEAN paranoia.

Edit: Actually, from my reading of recent articles, China really didn't care about the SU-35 but only in its engines. Thus, China only wanted 24 SU-35, while Russia insisted more.
Just like the last time. The funny thing here - they still didn't manage to copy previous generation engines
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Old 2013-11-06, 15:21   Link #31674
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Media has consistently shown that Japanese school age kids are actually far more competent and deadly than their adults and some are even the equivalent of tactical weapons. Keeping and eye on them is only prudent.
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Old 2013-11-06, 16:10   Link #31675
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Media has consistently shown that Japanese school age kids are actually far more competent and deadly than their adults and some are even the equivalent of tactical weapons. Keeping and eye on them is only prudent.
especially the Student Body President
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Old 2013-11-06, 16:42   Link #31676
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Rand Paul admits his plagiarism 'is my fault'
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/p...arism/3451991/
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If dueling were legal in Kentucky, if they keep it up, you know, it would be a duel challenge. But I can’t do that, because I can’t hold office in Kentucky then
Isn't that guy supposed to be one of the ''brain'' in the GOP ?
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Just like the last time. The funny thing here - they still didn't manage to copy previous generation engines
Isn't true than they still have issue developing a modern, 100% Chinese engine?
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Old 2013-11-06, 17:15   Link #31677
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From what I know, rockets are the only equipment which PRC can say is truly Chinese.
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Old 2013-11-06, 17:44   Link #31678
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From what I know, rockets are the only equipment which PRC can say is truly Chinese.
Which is more what we can say for Japan at this point? If we are really going back in history...

Edit: China also invent the world first Land mines. I will assume bow, swords, and axes to generic to be claimed by anyone civilization~

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Don't you mean 'no' for the Japanese kid?
Opps. Yes, I meant to say no. edited.
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Old 2013-11-06, 17:50   Link #31679
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And spaghetti. The greatest invention in the history of mankind.
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Old 2013-11-06, 17:59   Link #31680
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Pss... If not for these 19th and 20th century of half-colonial years, China might have be something great.

Japan couldn't developed weapon, not that they don't want to or they don't have the ability. Remember the F-2 Zero Viper? Even a design decades old could caused a ruckus between Japan and America.

Oh, and one last thing: Have the American Dream in the 50s-90s lead to something great?
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