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Old 2010-10-27, 11:34   Link #9541
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Russia wants troop limit in new NATO states
http://ca.reuters.com/article/topNew...69Q14W20101027
Did they still belive than NATO would invade them ?
Seems doubtful to me, too, but it does help maintain internal cohesion if you can point to an external threat.

I presume Russia is also concerned about its ability to bully its neighbors effectively should it choose to do so. What might have been the outcome in Georgia in 2008 if there were "substantial" number of NATO forces on the ground there?
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Old 2010-10-27, 12:58   Link #9542
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What might have been the outcome in Georgia in 2008 if there were "substantial" number of NATO forces on the ground there?
Well the Georgians did take a gamble by assuming that the Russians wouldn't react to their offensive in south Ossetia due to the backing of the US and NATO.
As usual, the plan was the first casualty in the conflict.
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Old 2010-10-27, 13:04   Link #9543
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Seems doubtful to me, too, but it does help maintain internal cohesion if you can point to an external threat.

I presume Russia is also concerned about its ability to bully its neighbors effectively should it choose to do so. What might have been the outcome in Georgia in 2008 if there were "substantial" number of NATO forces on the ground there?
where would those nato troops have been station?

i don't believed the russian troops ever cross the boundary between South Ossetia and Georgia. And I don't think Nato would risk antigonzing Russia by stationing troops in South Ossetia.
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Old 2010-10-27, 13:14   Link #9544
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The Horror, the Horror ... and the pity or how the international media is covering the Tea-Party:
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/article...=yes&page=full
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Old 2010-10-27, 14:42   Link #9545
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The Horror, the Horror ... and the pity or how the international media is covering the Tea-Party:
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/article...=yes&page=full
Germany and France seem to have a pretty good take on it from what I've experienced by encounters with the tea party sort. The rest of the examples raise some good points, but seem to fall under the same reactionary umbrella as the tea party itself.
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Old 2010-10-27, 15:46   Link #9546
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The rest of the examples raise some good points, but seem to fall under the same reactionary umbrella as the tea party itself.
They are looking the Tea Party throught the glasses of their own ideology.
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Old 2010-10-27, 15:59   Link #9547
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Huh. Funny how there isn't one for England. Made me realise there hasn't actually been much interest over here in the Tea Party. We just don't give shit, lol.
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Old 2010-10-27, 16:02   Link #9548
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Why US voters are suing Dr Obama
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An ambulance stops by the roadside to help a man suffering from a heart attack. After desperate measures, the patient survives. Brought into hospital, he then makes a protracted and partial recovery. Then, two years later, far from feeling grateful, he sues the paramedics and doctors. If it were not for their interference, he insists, he would be as good as new. As for the heart attack, it was a minor event. He would have been far better off if he had been left alone.
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Old 2010-10-27, 16:03   Link #9549
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We don't precisely care here either. There have been a few blink-and-you'll-miss-it reports on the Tea party, but that's it. Our football results get way more coverage.
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Old 2010-10-27, 17:14   Link #9550
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Old 2010-10-27, 17:17   Link #9551
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Well... Only used Limewire for a good 1 month, then uninstalled it after fixing my computer from various viruses that the files contained... So all I have to say is... "Good"??? Sorry not really that associated with Limewire, probably should have kept my words to myself
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Old 2010-10-27, 17:22   Link #9552
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didn't something like that actually happen?
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Old 2010-10-27, 19:02   Link #9553
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Well... Only used Limewire for a good 1 month, then uninstalled it after fixing my computer from various viruses that the files contained... So all I have to say is... "Good"??? Sorry not really that associated with Limewire, probably should have kept my words to myself
I also heard its place people distribute and consume CP (yuck)

I guess RIAA used some strategies highlighted here to finally slay limewire and someday other P2Ps
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Old 2010-10-27, 19:05   Link #9554
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I also heard its place people distribute and consume CP (yuck)

I guess RIAA used some strategies highlighted here to finally slay limewire and someday other P2Ps
So.... There basically gonna use the "Child Pornography" strategy to block off a majority of file sharing sites? Or maybe just sites like Pirate Bay, and Limewire?

Edit: Oh P2P sites only?
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Old 2010-10-27, 22:54   Link #9555
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Old 2010-10-28, 00:34   Link #9556
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The Horror, the Horror ... and the pity or how the international media is covering the Tea-Party:
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/article...=yes&page=full
It's funny because it's all true. Maybe this should be in silly news/stories.
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Old 2010-10-28, 01:47   Link #9557
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Neonatal Fascism... yeah, it is good the world is watching.... even through colorful lense filters. I think the Spaniards come closest to nailing it (with their historical references) "We don't know if we feel more profound horror or more profound pity"
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Old 2010-10-28, 02:06   Link #9558
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It's funny because it's all true. Maybe this should be in silly news/stories.
Okay, I realize much of the coverage I read of the Tea Party is satire (as in "clips from the Daily Show"), but some of what I hear makes a more convincing argument for why Canada needs to spend billions on F-35s than any of the arguments the Conservative Party made defending their purchase. 8000+kilometers of undefended border just isn't as appealing as it once was.

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Seems doubtful to me, too, but it does help maintain internal cohesion if you can point to an external threat.
Putin always strikes me as someone who engages in the same "macho world leader image" antics that Bush did, so it wouldn't surprise me if him and his followers tend to hype foreign threats as well. That said, it doesn't help that western countries initially said they weren't going to expand NATO eastward and then went ahead and did it anyway.
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Old 2010-10-28, 06:43   Link #9559
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Vladimir Putin macho? He doesn't show that side often...







Well, OK, maybe a little...
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Old 2010-10-28, 06:45   Link #9560
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Well, OK, maybe a little...
He does train in Judo from what I know, so he isn't a slouch politician, I'll give him that

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Putin always strikes me as someone who engages in the same "macho world leader image" antics that Bush did, so it wouldn't surprise me if him and his followers tend to hype foreign threats as well. That said, it doesn't help that western countries initially said they weren't going to expand NATO eastward and then went ahead and did it anyway.
You have to bear in mind that he's a former KGB agent, so some of his methods may be through the use of force, and it's very likely that he still remembers the Cold War. It's mainly because of politicians with this kind of background that governments don't want to move on and cling to old habits.
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