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Old 2011-04-05, 05:27   Link #12901
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Koran burners are nothing but trolls, that's why they are happy what they have done. Yes, trolls did not live in internet anymore.
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Old 2011-04-06, 02:52   Link #12902
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Libyan rebels condemn NATO over Gaddafi advance
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...7270JP20110406
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Old 2011-04-06, 03:45   Link #12903
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More like they are miffed at NATO's snail pace method of action and Turkey stalling said actions.

That and the loyalist have changed tactics so that air attacks aren't as effective.
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Old 2011-04-06, 05:48   Link #12904
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French Foreign Minister Alain Juppe said NATO operations were becoming more complicated in having to deal with the fact that Gaddafi's forces had frequently deployed close to civilians as tactical protection against air strikes.
wonder where he got that idea from.
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Old 2011-04-06, 07:48   Link #12905
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Koran burners are nothing but trolls, that's why they are happy what they have done. Yes, trolls did not live in internet anymore.
Fred Phelps is the original troll, once an advocate of equality is now the epitome of biggotry, he is the original.
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Old 2011-04-06, 12:02   Link #12906
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SpaceX unveils new Falcon Heavy rocket - WORLD'S BIGGEST

"SpaceX, the famous upstart startup rocket company founded on PayPal
hecamillionaire Elon Musk's internet fortune, has announced details of its latest
and mightiest launcher - which will be the most powerful rocket in the world.

“Falcon Heavy will arrive at our Vandenberg, California, launch complex by the end
of next year with liftoff to follow soon thereafter," says Musk. "First launch from
our Cape Canaveral launch complex is planned for late 2013 or 2014.”"

"Musk says that his new Falcon Heavy will be able to deliver no less than 54
tonnes of cargo to orbit, doubling the performance of the existing Delta IV Heavy,
the biggest US rocket currently on offer - but at "less than one third the cost" of
the incumbent big-boy."

See:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/04..._falcon_heavy/
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Old 2011-04-06, 13:37   Link #12907
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(CENSUS) Most Illegal Immigrant Families Collect Welfare

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Surprise, surprise ; Census Bureau data reveals that most U.S. families headed by illegal immigrants use taxpayer-funded welfare programs on behalf of their American-born anchor babies.

Even before the recession, immigrant households with children used welfare programs at consistently higher rates than natives, according to the extensive census data collected and analyzed by a nonpartisan Washington D.C. group dedicated to researching legal and illegal immigration in the U.S. The results, published this month in a lengthy report, are hardly surprising.

Basically, the majority of households across the country benefitting from publicly-funded welfare programs are headed by immigrants, both legal and illegal. States where immigrant households with children have the highest welfare use rates are Arizona (62%), Texas, California and New York with 61% each and Pennsylvania (59%).

The study focused on eight major welfare programs that cost the government $517 billion the year they were examined. They include Supplemental Security Income (SSI) for the disabled, Temporary Assistance to Needy Families (TANF), a nutritional program known as Women, Infants and Children (WIC), food stamps, free/reduced school lunch, public housing and health insurance for the poor (Medicaid).

Food assistance and Medicaid are the programs most commonly used by illegal immigrants, mainly on behalf of their American-born children who get automatic citizenship. On the other hand, legal immigrant households take advantage of every available welfare program, according to the study, which attributes it to low education level and resulting low income.

The highest rate of welfare recipients come from the Dominican Republic (82 %), Mexico and Guatemala (75%) and Ecuador (70%), according to the report, which says welfare use tends to be high for both new arrivals and established residents.
http://www.cis.org/articles/2011/imm...e-use-4-11.pdf
http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/20...ollect-welfare
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Old 2011-04-06, 14:24   Link #12908
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Must have been some other census survey, since the US 2010 census didn't ask questions about welfare or money.
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Old 2011-04-06, 14:32   Link #12909
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Not surprising, since most illegal immigrants get no work permits (and even when they got one, most of the time lack the language skills, different education... disqualifies them for jobs that pay enough to support a family). I was always of the oppinion, that the law that allows for every baby born in the USA to get US citizenship is a very huge backdoor (with all its consequences).

Europe doesn't exactly face the same problem (at least not so serious), because of the Mediterranean Sea being a natural border that is not very easy to cross (illegaly - many people try and die). [okay this was my completely emotionless POV regarding the situation]

[now for something else - irony]
However, it seems the most effective way to control the immigrant influx is to let immigrants live at the absolute minimum subsistence level. The word spreads very fast that it might be better to stay in the country of origin. However, while the efforts of the US american social legislation does everything to get to this level, the "advertisement campaigns" of Hollywood and Co. seem to be so much stronger.

The media and the message that it sends out to the world must be in tune with reality to make this work.

When they stop to say that in an american dream (well for most people only in their dreams) everyone can become rich and that the social system is suitable to provide a fundament for that upstart... and stick instead to reality: that most people must remain poor, so that a few can get rich. And that the social systems are actually designed to maintain this status quo... than maybe the tools of deterrence will work (however, that might backfire... because suddenly many americans will realize that they have to stay poor).
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Old 2011-04-06, 15:24   Link #12910
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However, it seems the most effective way to control the immigrant influx is to let immigrants live at the absolute minimum subsistence level.
i say the4 most disincentive are employers who are likely to squeeze more out of their work.


also, what's "absolute minimum subsistence level" to average american is "normal" for the typical poor Sonoran and Chihuahuan Mexicans. Though they may find food here cheaper and get to buy more hi-quality stuff at rock bottom prices, thanks to weekly Swap Meet events and craigslist.

Don't forget most of 'em get paid "under the table"... (it's the unspoken truth in Los Angeles) so it's a win-win for employer and the undocumented employee.
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Old 2011-04-06, 16:57   Link #12911
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also, what's "absolute minimum subsistence level" to average american is "normal" for the typical poor Sonoran and Chihuahuan Mexicans. Though they may find food here cheaper and get to buy more hi-quality stuff at rock bottom prices, thanks to weekly Swap Meet events and craigslist...
Nah, I wouldn't be so sure about that. I mean, to a certain degree (not completely) people will not consider themselves poor when everyone is on the same level as them (take the normal folks 500 years ago... by todays standards they would be "rich" even if they were living at the perceived absolute minimum subsistence level).

No, what really impacts the feeling of being poor is to see everyday how others have so much more than you. Because wealth is not only the ability to buy stuff, it is more a means to gain freedom. Without money you will always be dependend, be at someone's mercy... the lack of a perspective for your life is what really makes you feel miserable (If you can see at least a small chance to break out from that forlornness - hope, if you have it you can bear much to gain something. However, if you've given up yourself - like so many do - you will live a life in apathy [and sometimes crime] - apathy isn't freedom, its like living dead).
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Old 2011-04-07, 03:03   Link #12912
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Speaking of imigration...

Migrant boat sinks off Italy, up to 250 missing
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...73515120110406
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Old 2011-04-07, 03:08   Link #12913
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Being Sicilian, I bet you that someone would not have been happy if the boat managed to get safely to Lampedusa
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Old 2011-04-07, 06:30   Link #12914
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From your first link:

"In 2009(based on data collected in 2010) 57% of households headed by an immigrant (legal and illegal)..."

"In this report we use the term foreign born and immigrant synonymously. Immigrants or the foreign-born include naturalized American citizens, legal permanent residents (green card holders), illegal immigrants, and people on long term temporary visas such as students or guest workers."

So it's all immigrants, including those that became citizens, not just illegal immigrants. That's just a sensationalist headline from your second article. Further, the first link reveals only 1% of illegal immigrants receive cash assistance, which is what people usually think of when talking about welfare. Most of aid is in the form of food stamps and medical care for their legal children. The article glosses over that by calling the children "anchor babies" though. True, they themselves benefit from the foodstamps, but only the kids benefit from the medical coverage. Oh but we can't help kids of illegal immigrants, they're just "anchor babies."
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Old 2011-04-07, 09:46   Link #12915
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Developing Story:

7.4 magnitude Earthquake hits Honshu Japan.
Possibility of new Tsunami.

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquak...at00ljadqj.php
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Old 2011-04-07, 10:05   Link #12916
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The estimate is for a one meter high wave, nothing like the 30-40m tsunami that hit last month. Some shaking reported in Tokyo.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-13005110
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Old 2011-04-07, 13:57   Link #12917
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75-year-old woman takes out internet in Georgia with a spade

The woman was digging for old copper cables to sell, when she hit a fibre optic cable that provides internet for over 3.2 million people in Georgia and Armenia.
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Old 2011-04-07, 14:23   Link #12918
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75-year-old woman takes out internet in Georgia with a spade

The woman was digging for old copper cables to sell, when she hit a fibre optic cable that provides internet for over 3.2 million people in Georgia and Armenia.
Did the SVR hire her? Or are they the ones paying for her copper cables?
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Old 2011-04-07, 14:38   Link #12919
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75-year-old woman takes out internet in Georgia with a spade

The woman was digging for old copper cables to sell, when she hit a fibre optic cable that provides internet for over 3.2 million people in Georgia and Armenia.
Putin probably did a face palm. if he knew it was that easy to cut of gerogia internet access, he would have done it back 2008.
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Old 2011-04-07, 14:58   Link #12920
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wonder where he got that idea from.
Hezbollah, who else?
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