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Old 2011-04-28, 00:24   Link #13321
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Liveleak has another video angle of this incident.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c78_1303945433

Currently, it has been reported the girls were being loud and disorderly, but that's it.
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Old 2011-04-28, 00:53   Link #13322
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Old 2011-04-28, 02:09   Link #13323
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He's a pussy for defending himself and getting her to back the F' off? I'm sorry, but if a woman is grabbing your uniform while you are trying to cuff someone, and could claw your freaking eyes out while the situation is escalating, you do WHATEVER you have to do to get them to back off. I'm not being too harsh. I'm being very reasonable. Don't want to get hit by the police? Don't attack them or grab them. And don't even think about bringing size into this. Some of the meanest people on the planet, are in the 100-150 lb range.

Kind of like that little bully in the 4th grade(in Australia I believe?). After socking the big guy once, and trying for a second punch, he got body slammed into the pavement. Bet he won't bully anyone again.

I'd give that policeman a medal. Just because you're a female, does not give you a free pass to do whatever the hell you want to do. Women have been crying for equality and equal rights and treatment for a century. Well you got it. Now you have to lie in that bed you made.
No matter how you slice it, a man should never EVER punch a woman. If he does that shows that he is a coward with some serious control issues. Policemen are held at a higher standard than civilians, what he did is more than enough to get him fired off the force.
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Old 2011-04-28, 03:48   Link #13324
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No matter how you slice it, a man should never EVER punch a woman. If he does that shows that he is a coward with some serious control issues. Policemen are held at a higher standard than civilians, what he did is more than enough to get him fired off the force.
Never? Never, ever? Really? I pray you are never in a position to eat those words.
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Old 2011-04-28, 04:35   Link #13325
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The officer's conduct is very strange. He leaves himself wide open to attack by letting the friends of the woman with whom he was grappling out of his field of vision. I have never heard of a police officer attempting to apprehend someone surrounded by companions in close quarters like that. He could have easily been killed because of that sort of reckless behavior, which makes me wonder if the officer himself had been drinking. The strangest part is that his partner appears to be trying to pull him away until the other girl begins hitting him. Whatever happened before the cameras started recording is probably the most important part of this incident.
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Old 2011-04-28, 05:29   Link #13326
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Old 2011-04-28, 08:26   Link #13327
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No matter how you slice it, a man should never EVER punch a woman. If he does that shows that he is a coward with some serious control issues. Policemen are held at a higher standard than civilians, what he did is more than enough to get him fired off the force.
Bullshit. Having a vagina is not an excuse if you're attacking me. My sense of chivalry only goes so far.
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Old 2011-04-28, 10:41   Link #13328
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Well, going by the stock exchange, each FB account is worth approximately 100€. Now, I don't know (well actually I share your sarcastic sentiment on the issue) but FB might be tiny little bit supervalued/hyped.
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Old 2011-04-28, 10:58   Link #13329
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Bullshit. Having a vagina is not an excuse if you're attacking me. My sense of chivalry only goes so far.
I'm a pascifist ninny compared to many of my fellow dudes in outlook yet frankly I sympathise.

I don't think you can engage a woman the exact same way you would a man, (ie I wouldnt be so quick to engage in combat with one as opposed to a man), but not all ladies can be put into the "theyre smaller less muscular so they can do less damage" category.If a lady is beligerent, threatening can do some serious damage to your welfare and you have NO OTHER CHOICE, then well it makes no sense NOT to defend yourself. Sex has nothing to do with it.
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Old 2011-04-28, 11:43   Link #13330
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Never? Never, ever? Really? I pray you are never in a position to eat those words.
Unless the woman has muscles bigger than any avarage woman and hates being treated like a lady I'll only go as far as slapping or restraining her. Us men are supposed to respect women. Male police officers are out of question.
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Old 2011-04-28, 11:57   Link #13331
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I've encountered plenty of smaller women that can kick my ass. Two of my cousins were professional wrestlers, and I wouldn't want to mess with them even though one was five foot.
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Old 2011-04-28, 11:58   Link #13332
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Unless the woman has muscles bigger than any avarage woman and hates being treated like a lady I'll only go as far as slapping or restraining her. Us men are supposed to respect women. Male police officers are out of question.
I find that both stupid and sexist:
- we're supposed to respect everybody, regardless of gender. If you're in a situation where you shouldn't hit a woman, you're in a situation where you shouldn't hit a man, either.
- you seriously think boobs make people harmless? It doesn't take a lot of muscle to be dangerous.
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Old 2011-04-28, 12:11   Link #13333
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I don't think you can engage a woman the exact same way you would a man,
Yes, there are rules for that. You first need to give a speech about why what they're doing is wrong and they should stop it. Further, it must end with, "I'll shatter that illusion."
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Old 2011-04-28, 12:43   Link #13334
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I find that both stupid and sexist:
- we're supposed to respect everybody, regardless of gender. If you're in a situation where you shouldn't hit a woman, you're in a situation where you shouldn't hit a man, either.
- you seriously think boobs make people harmless? It doesn't take a lot of muscle to be dangerous.
Very true. The only situation I can think of where I'd have reason to hit anyone is if I'm being physically attacked. Doesn't really matter if it's a man or a woman, doesn't matter how big or small they are either, I'll do my best to defend myself.

I will say that a policeman who is trained should be able to do the above with minimal injury to the other party, but policemen make mistakes. I think people being too hard on the police is partially responsible for the Blue Code of Silence. They shouldn't be prosecuted unless it becomes habitual.
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Old 2011-04-28, 13:12   Link #13335
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Even in the first video, it was obvious that the woman in the black dress was interfering with the cop trying to deal with the sitting girl. The video GundamFan posted shows that the cop in fact had his hands full with two seated women when the one in the dress interfered. The article accompanying the video had one of the filmers stating that the girls were drunk, loud, and refused the cop's orders to leave. Saying "no" to an officer and then laying hands on him predictably leads to the events in the video. His actions look absolutely justified here.
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Old 2011-04-28, 13:46   Link #13336
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Israel rejects Palestinian unity government with Hamas

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Old 2011-04-28, 13:52   Link #13337
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Would you want to deal with Hamas over Fatah? I wouldn't. Not when one is more or less reasonable and the other fires rockets at me.
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Old 2011-04-28, 14:04   Link #13338
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Expect now both Palestinian groups made a deal with Egypt mediators to form a new unity government.
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Old 2011-04-28, 14:08   Link #13339
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All depend on what the PA's stance is. If they follow the Fatah path, they will probably gain the status of a country in the eyes of the UN. If they follow the Hamas path...they will not, even if Hamas is better for their people.

I still don't think a split Palestine is a viable country.
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Old 2011-04-28, 14:42   Link #13340
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All depend on what the PA's stance is. If they follow the Fatah path, they will probably gain the status of a country in the eyes of the UN. If they follow the Hamas path...they will not, even if Hamas is better for their people.

I still don't think a split Palestine is a viable country.
I agree with this. The jury is still out on what direction the PA takes. Although i hate the Isreal cowtowing that US politicians do Hamas deserves it's bad reputation for killing innocents.
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