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Old 2013-04-10, 12:46   Link #2221
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IIRC the original division of the cloth rankings is by whether they can be viewed from the Northern and Southern hemisphere as divided by the 12 zodiac . The problem with this division is some constellations can be visible on the other hemisphere depending on season. So my guess is that Kurumada was using a map that is probably outdated or restricted to a particular time/season when he made the divisions, and now the current staff is using a more modern version to do the classification.

From my understanding you just have to blame astrology - the problem is that when the ancients created the constellations they know very little about the stars compared with what we know today, and they couldn't have predicted that the stars actually moved as the universe expands and all those other factors. The ancients classified the 12 zodiacs as the constellations which the sun traces pass, but as time passed (ie our time now) the sun also traces through Ophiucus constellation thus technically making it the 13th zodiac. I think we found this out in the 90s and there used to be some debate about changing everyone's birth zodiac due to this change, but eventually no one took it up (so technically speaking, you might not actually be the star sign that you think you are born under!), Kurumada is simply folding this piece of astrology information into ND as a plot twist (which is pretty clever of him actually, to update his story according to the change in astrology), and let's see how he would spin the story. But knowing how he really doesn't care about minor details I doubt he would take too much care about it. Though my guess is that there're probably two Ophiucus cloth, and the Gold (probably cursed) version is sealed in the lost Ophiucus temple which Shiana just dug up in the latest ND chapter.
Hmm...interesting theory there, Houko. I may have to go with yours for now. I just wish they'll give in-story explanation someday.

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Also Eden's Orion was a Silver constellation in the original too.
Now that you mention it, they do said that the Orion Saint (along with others) in the first SS movie is canon. So that makes two Silver Cloths degraded into Bronze, Orion and Eagle/Aquila.
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Old 2013-04-10, 16:47   Link #2222
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IIRC the original division of the cloth rankings is by whether they can be viewed from the Northern and Southern hemisphere as divided by the 12 zodiac . The problem with this division is some constellations can be visible on the other hemisphere depending on season. So my guess is that Kurumada was using a map that is probably outdated or restricted to a particular time/season when he made the divisions, and now the current staff is using a more modern version to do the classification.
That was just a division between northern and southern hemisphere constellations, it didn't have anything to do with the Cloths ^^
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Old 2013-04-10, 22:24   Link #2223
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Now that we are at it Pegasus, Dragon, Andromeda and Cygnus are visible only in the Northern hemisphere. As the common lone wolf Phoenix is only visible in the Southern hemisphere.
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Old 2013-04-10, 23:31   Link #2224
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lol I remember that, and it was Shaka's fault for messing around with bronze saints.
To be more accurate, it is Shaka's bird that caused the issue and Mu was saying oh my god and 4 cloth sit in front of him..
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Old 2013-04-11, 05:58   Link #2225
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Something I miss, what happen to the golden gemini girl?
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Old 2013-04-11, 10:00   Link #2226
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Something I miss, what happen to the golden gemini girl?
Only thing we know is that she survived the battle. She apparently went missing afterwards since Kiki counts her among the saints they lost.
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Old 2013-04-11, 11:34   Link #2227
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Only thing we know is that she survived the battle. She apparently went missing afterwards since Kiki counts her among the saints they lost.
Her gold cloth is missing from the wall. When the others died those returned to it but Paradox's didn't.
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Old 2013-04-11, 11:59   Link #2228
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Wonder if they'll ever explain what happened with the three original Silver Saints. Maybe it's true that they took the wrong plane which fell to the sea and then the three became the slaves of the dolphins trained by the filler's Dolphin Saint who worked for the Pope Saga... What?
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Old 2013-04-11, 12:10   Link #2229
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Wonder if they'll ever explain what happened with the three original Silver Saints. Maybe it's true that they took the wrong plane which fell to the sea and then the three became the slaves of the dolphins trained by the filler's Dolphin Saint who worked for the Pope Saga... What?
Dolphin Saint is the coolest Saint evahh! Just look at him:



and he comes from the official constellation too .
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Old 2013-04-11, 16:48   Link #2230
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The ghost saints were so damn awful

Dolphin is actually the best look of the bunch. That's saying something.
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Old 2013-04-11, 18:29   Link #2231
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Her gold cloth is missing from the wall. When the others died those returned to it but Paradox's didn't.
Seeing how Tokisada's returned from the End of Time, she is definitely alive.
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Old 2013-04-11, 21:32   Link #2232
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Dolphin is actually the best look of the bunch. That's saying something.
I liked how Geist actually had better armor than the two canon female Saints at that point.

Maybe she left because she didn't want to put on a leotard.
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Old 2013-04-11, 22:13   Link #2233
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I liked how Geist actually had better armor than the two canon female Saints at that point.

Maybe she left because she didn't want to put on a leotard.
I always thought it was because during the series' start, Kurumada had troubles designing women's faces. Did Saori look femenine to anybody in the manga's start?
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Old 2013-04-13, 13:14   Link #2234
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lol @ the Ghost saints.

AS their bio on tvtropes says "They look like mascots for Sea world"
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Old 2013-04-13, 13:57   Link #2235
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GOOD NEWS!


SS is gonna have a new game, isn't clear if its about SS original or Omega. I hope is the latter since I want the new characters on it.

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Meanwhile Haruto:
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Old 2013-04-13, 16:55   Link #2236
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Old 2013-04-13, 17:33   Link #2237
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Old 2013-04-13, 18:10   Link #2238
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Any video of the new opening?
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Old 2013-04-13, 18:26   Link #2239
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Any video of the new opening?


Made a couple quick stitches:

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The designs of the Pallasites is really good and Araki-like. Definitely a lot better than the martians.

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That, on the other hand, looks pretty bad...
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Old 2013-04-13, 18:36   Link #2240
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Pallas is hot.
And look, we seem to have a big bad guy.
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