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Old 2013-04-01, 01:01   Link #1441
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there have been sufficient discussions on that matter. I don't need to repeat myself
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Old 2013-04-01, 01:30   Link #1442
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The yuri vibes between kotori and honoka are too strong
She's very cute but that's about the only good thing about her character.
I hate putting on my yuri goggles, but I say that's the case with this, she needs Honoka to tell her to stay for their love.

Plus I like Aya Uchida, so therefore I like Kotori.
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Old 2013-04-01, 01:51   Link #1443
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That woman was Maki's mom right? Wonder why Kotori's mom was so surprised?
Seems like they knew each other. Probably both of them were alumni of that school as well.

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What I don't understand is why Kotori needs Honoka to tell her to stay. Does this go back to Kotori's feeling of inferiority at not being particularly unique within muse so she needs someone to validate her value to the group? If she really wanted to stay,she would and also, it's kind of silly to turn down an opportunity to study with a famous designer just for some friends imo.If she loved muse, she would just stay.Kotori is too wishy washy.Maybe she just wants attention? And also Kotori was planning to leave without saying farewell to Honoka? Really? You are just going to leave without talking to your best friend? Wow Kotori's character is just so cringe inducing. She's very cute but that's about the only good thing about her character.
I agree with the "study abroad" thing being thrown out of the window just like that

Hmm, let's see.... (this is just my assumption of her thinking) IIRC Kotori got the mail and wanted to tell Honoka about it, but circumstances prohibited her from doing so. I also remember that the mail has a deadline. That's why she chose to accept the offer, because there's still an option of aborting it (of course it must have big consequences too) rather than declining right away because things are still hectic on her end. This way, she's got a few days of preparation and she's planning to use the remaining time to tell her friends, but things turned out bad (when Umi announced about it in the party). The following days, Kotori didn't go to school to prepare herself (since it's already "too late") and I believe part of the reason is that she wants to distance herself from her friends since it'll make her more sad. (Hence why she went to airport only with her Mom, and still cries on the goodbye). The time Honoka came to her, well... the stimulation must be too strong for her

Anyway, I know the whole thing is obvious, but my point is that she accepted the offer because she can always abort it later (of course, I'm talking about the worst case scenario).

I have no problems with her changed her decision. Didn't everyone in LL went through the same thing? even Honoka too in this episode (Making Muse, quitting, and then rejoin again). It's just Kotori's problem is much bigger. That's why it's unfortunate to make her abort her study just like that. And we already know that this is coming, so that's why I thought her drama in the last 3 episodes wasn't needed in the first place.
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Old 2013-04-01, 02:47   Link #1444
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Up to the beach ep. Kinda set this show aside, but I finally managed to sit down and watch.

...Maki is totally win and love and I want to take her home with me right now.
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Old 2013-04-01, 02:47   Link #1445
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the anime was ok but nothing to write home about.
- So if there's nothing to write home about, why are you writing about it?

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huh? im guessing ur a fan of her?
- He's getting close. Look, are you the kind of person who walks up to a Star Trek convention and openly tells them that Star Trek sucks? Because you're doing pretty much the same thing here...
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Old 2013-04-01, 03:11   Link #1446
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Personally, I felt the end left a lot to be desired, and I'm hoping there's a second season which culminates in an actual Love Live performance, even if we replace a third of u's
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Old 2013-04-01, 03:36   Link #1447
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- So if there's nothing to write home about, why are you writing about it?

- He's getting close. Look, are you the kind of person who walks up to a Star Trek convention and openly tells them that Star Trek sucks? Because you're doing pretty much the same thing here...
i watched the whole thing from start to finish,wk to wk, just cause i didnt post about each ep when i watched it doesnt mean i cant post my overall opinion on this show, even if its a bad one.

And no i wouldnt go out of my way to go to a love live convention to say that, but since this is a internet forum i dont see the damn problem

anyway idiots aside, the 2nd series should be alot better if they actually focus on the love live and not cliche character problems and plot points (like the school is gonna close) too many anime has use that trope already to make it interesting
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Old 2013-04-01, 04:04   Link #1448
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i watched the whole thing from start to finish,wk to wk, just cause i didnt post about each ep when i watched it doesnt mean i cant post my overall opinion on this show, even if its a bad one.

And no i wouldnt go out of my way to go to a love live convention to say that, but since this is a internet forum i dont see the damn problem

anyway idiots aside, the 2nd series should be alot better if they actually focus on the love live and not cliche character problems and plot points (like the school is gonna close) too many anime has use that trope already to make it interesting
- Noted. And noted. Maybe we should have it start with a couple of the main characters run over by a bus, as you suggested. Would make for great drama.

(please take note that it's the 1st of April. Buy yourself a sense of humor, mate. Not all jokes have smilies on the end.)
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Old 2013-04-01, 04:38   Link #1449
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- Noted. And noted. Maybe we should have it start with a couple of the main characters run over by a bus, as you suggested. Would make for great drama.

(please take note that it's the 1st of April. Buy yourself a sense of humor, mate. Not all jokes have smilies on the end.)
noted.

All right the run over by a bus was a bad comment to make,my bad and all jokes should have smiles at the end, its hard to tell which are jokes in text

(noticed you edited in that april fools crap, in which case a smile or wink is definetly needed, to separate ur opinion from a joke)
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Old 2013-04-01, 05:06   Link #1450
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ok finish, as predicted Kotori just waiting for her BFF Honoka to stop her. cliche I know, but I understand completely I'm missing Honoka already ;( , is this really the end? where's the S2!!!!!!

anyway liked the full version of start:dash, but boy that's a minor miracle there filling the whole auditorium in such short notice, like what 2hours at the most? They seriously have rabid fans & star power to make everyone drop everything just to watch them. I mean they didn't even have time to change into costume, which on the other hand I like, it's kinda different from the usual ultra-colorful over the top, cheesy designs of idols in anime & IRL, which really really contributes to my general dislike of Idols per se.
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Old 2013-04-01, 05:34   Link #1451
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Episode 12:

ARGGHHH...the cheese in this episode. All this show was missing was after the live Honoka hopping into a green convertible with Kotori and driving off into the sunset. Some of the dialogue in this episode is just very vague and uninspired, like with Eri's speech to Honoka, the whole time I was just wondering, "okay its great that you have courage, but what are you trying to say?" The final live was kind of underwhelming to me as well; I liked Start: Dash better when it was just the three of them.

The show kind of fizzled here a bit in the final, but I still really like the series. The pacing of the series made it easy to get into, and it was great fun for most of its run. I'm a sucker for Hanada Jukki's writing despite his penchant for shoehorning silly drama into his stories. There is definitely more story to be told as well. 2nd season please.
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Old 2013-04-01, 06:13   Link #1452
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That woman was Maki's mom right? Wonder why Kotori's mom was so surprised?
They used to be classmates most likely.
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Old 2013-04-01, 07:17   Link #1453
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There's got to be another season, otherwise the show is named after an event which doesn't even happen in it, right?
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Old 2013-04-01, 07:23   Link #1454
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There's got to be another season, otherwise the show is named after an event which doesn't even happen in it, right?
Or maybe, they just....love singing live?
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Old 2013-04-01, 07:38   Link #1455
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I really like the part where ARISE is watching. The look on their faces was priceless. lol

Right after that scene, they showed Muse's captains of their years.

Eri, Honoka, and Maki aka the better versions of them.

Lowegear, where did you hear about a 6th pv?

Acquiring minds want to know. (me)


saw this one at facebook, along with the link to vote who'll gonna take the 6th PV center position...

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Old 2013-04-01, 07:51   Link #1456
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Hmm, Honoka's been the center 3 times (PV1,2,4), Nico and Kotori 1 time (PV3 and PV5 respectively). The other girls also became the center in the B side songs (not PV-ed, though): Rin (Yuujou no Change), Kotori (baby maybe Koi no button), Eli (Mermaid festa Vol. 1), Maki (Aishiteru Banzai!), Hanayo (Oh, Love & Peace!).

That leaves Nozomi and Umi who hasn't been the center.
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Old 2013-04-01, 08:20   Link #1457
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noted.

All right the run over by a bus was a bad comment to make,my bad and all jokes should have smiles at the end, its hard to tell which are jokes in text
If you want them to have an accident en masse, have the bus they are all on collide with a Trailer Truck, or a similar equivalent. That ought to do the trick.

I actually smell a possible fanfiction. Speaking of which thatsounds like the perfect fuel for a crossover....


Spoiler for With another story:
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Old 2013-04-01, 10:08   Link #1458
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I really liked this series but there's one thing missing...another season with them going to Love Live and actually winning it. Too bad we didn't get to see this.
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Old 2013-04-01, 10:30   Link #1459
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Very predictable but decent enough ending, I suppose. Having Kotori staying really cheapens the drama of the previous episode for me. I particularly do not like how it was Honoka who brought her back. It should have been Kotori's decision and hers alone. I was also easily influenced by my friends when I was her age and I bitterly regret some of the choices I made now. But of course this is a light-hearted anime, so everything will turn out all right for her.

Honoka's development was nicely handled. She realized on her own (albeit with a lot help from her friends) that she loved being an idol. This I liked. I also loved that Nico, Hayano and Rin didn't give up on becoming idols just because Honoka left and formed their own little group. I could feel how dedicated they are to becoming idols.

This was the first idol show I watched and I ended up liking it quite a bit, but I'm not all that much into the whole idol thing. I enjoyed the character interaction and the training sessions more than the actual concerts.
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Old 2013-04-01, 11:16   Link #1460
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anyway liked the full version of start:dash, but boy that's a minor miracle there filling the whole auditorium in such short notice, like what 2hours at the most? They seriously have rabid fans & star power to make everyone drop everything just to watch them.
Didn't Hanayo tell Honoka that they were already planning on performing beforehand? I'm sure there was enough time to get the word out about it lol.
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Good fuckin gawd, I absolutely loved the last episode. It was kinda obvious that everything was gonna work out in the end, but how it was all resolved was really satisfying. I don't even care how Kotori blowing off studying abroad at the last minute to stay seemed to be selfish. Being selfish to fulfill Honoka's selfish desire to become school idols is perfectly okay in my book.

The last performance was really awesome, too. It was well-animated and had a decent blend of 2D and CG. It was also pretty fitting for μ's to perform START : DASH!! in the auditorium. They even played the entire song. And I guess Kotori and Maki's moms know each other? And the members of A-RISE watched the performance.That's cool. And lol at Honoka's dad tearing at the end.

As for the possibility of a second season, there better be one. D:

Really enjoyed this series. It's definitely my choice for most underrated show of Winter 2013.
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