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Old 2013-02-04, 00:10   Link #1921
ArchmageXin
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One quick question: The Deadbeat dungeon/Deadbeat Rings

Are there any long term bad implications for going there/using them?

Especially the ring, it appear to be cursed and cannot be taken off...
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Old 2013-02-04, 03:36   Link #1922
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Nothing bad will happen. Just a very good place for getting exp and one time cash boost. You will get a mark of deadbeat, but you can remove that by beating the king Putetto which he appears at the bottom floor (chapter 7).

Imo the equipment that get can be found there, isn't much worth it. It does get some decent stat boost at the price for being cursed, but later on you can get/synth better stuff.

About curse item; it's not bad to equip an curse one (lots of weapons that deal dark damage are cursed). The only downside is you can't remove it on the fly. To remove it you need to use an Unsealing Charm or go to the church and pay the fee.
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Old 2013-02-04, 09:15   Link #1923
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Its just there to make you ashame of yourself of having to use the deadbeat dungeon.
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Old 2013-02-04, 10:04   Link #1924
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Its just there to make you ashame of yourself of having to use the deadbeat dungeon.
Eh, my conscience is perfectly clear It is not like this game has cheat free achievements on Steam or something.

Also

1) when do you make keys to doors? I found a couple doors that say "bronze key required"

2) H scenes-Are they for the heroine you romancing only or your followers too? And if it is follower too, do u get penalty with your "heroine" if u did it?

3) Outfit for you and the main girls- If you unlock a bonus say, for Yulea's generic armor, do she keep that bonus when she wear her earth armor? Because I am not sure if it is better to just keep unlocking her regular armor or earth armor...seeing how expensive it is.
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Old 2013-02-04, 10:16   Link #1925
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Eh, my conscience is perfectly clear It is not like this game has cheat free achievements on Steam or something.

Also

1) when do you make keys to doors? I found a couple doors that say "bronze key required"

2) H scenes-Are they for the heroine you romancing only or your followers too? And if it is follower too, do u get penalty with your "heroine" if u did it?

3) Outfit for you and the main girls- If you unlock a bonus say, for Yulea's generic armor, do she keep that bonus when she wear her earth armor? Because I am not sure if it is better to just keep unlocking her regular armor or earth armor...seeing how expensive it is.
1) You get two key receipts during the regular game, so backtracking is required. The last key receipt you'll receive on a new game+ at the beginning.
2) Both. For once the heroine you are romancing. After that h-scene(s) for the other cast, depending how deep you progressed on their personal subquests. No negative consequences.
3) You will keep the unlocked skills for changing around, but the stat bonuses are bound to the armor itself.
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Old 2013-02-04, 12:29   Link #1926
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1) You get two key receipts during the regular game, so backtracking is required. The last key receipt you'll receive on a new game+ at the beginning.
2) Both. For once the heroine you are romancing. After that h-scene(s) for the other cast, depending how deep you progressed on their personal subquests. No negative consequences.
3) You will keep the unlocked skills for changing around, but the stat bonuses are bound to the armor itself.
I am not that hot about H-scenes, but I am definitely not a fan of re-playing a game this long without additional incentives.

So you get to watch all 3 girls in one playthrough + female monsters like the Udine/Succubus etc as long as you do their quest? o_O

So what exactly is unique picking "that one" girl then?
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Old 2013-02-04, 12:35   Link #1927
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I am not that hot about H-scenes, but I am definitely not a fan of re-playing a game this long without additional incentives.

So you get to watch all 3 girls in one playthrough + female monsters like the Udine/Succubus etc as long as you do their quest? o_O

So what exactly is unique picking "that one" girl then?
Ah, you misunderstood that part. What I tried to say was: You pick one route among Yuela, Emilita and Serawi and have h-scenes with one of them along the story. Some of the scenes happen automatically, while scenes that are costume-based are optional (the costume scenes are also bound to the girl whose route you are in). Furthermore there are scenes for all the female "monsters" la Melodianna, Suina, Crayenne, etc with the latter happening mostly in the later part of their quests.
In short: At least 3 playthroughs are needed, if only for the main heroines alone.
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Old 2013-02-04, 14:46   Link #1928
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What do you mean by costume based? You build an armor for the girl then take it off?
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Old 2013-02-04, 14:51   Link #1929
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no .... first u have to make the customer, then upgrade the stats through enchancement .... and also u have to be on their route .... note: upgrade usually up to 2/3 of it
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Old 2013-02-04, 15:01   Link #1930
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no .... first u have to make the customer, then upgrade the stats through enchancement .... and also u have to be on their route .... note: upgrade usually up to 2/3 of it
Do they have more than 1 set of armor?

Upgrade is expensive =(
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Old 2013-02-04, 15:07   Link #1931
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yes they do .... five/six i think ... and 2 more from ng+ .... upgrade only the armor that route u r in ....

the default armor can be upgrade but not recommend until ng+ (it will not give u any scene, reason for that is for lvl 60 map that cause ur girls to wear their orginial armor
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Old 2013-02-04, 15:15   Link #1932
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NOOOOOOOOOO

T_T I already spent a lot of money in Act I and Act II doing random upgrades all over the place
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Old 2013-02-04, 15:28   Link #1933
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one thing u should know is that even if u r not in the elf route (sry cant spell her name), when u can make her fire armor ... make it .... it has a skill that can let her fire +9 range .... also after u upgrade the armor .... the stats stay with that armor but skill u learn will be on the character so they can wear anything and still can use the skill ....
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Old 2013-02-04, 18:41   Link #1934
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NOOOOOOOOOO

T_T I already spent a lot of money in Act I and Act II doing random upgrades all over the place
make use of your shop. craft items and sell them, make sure to assign emelita or other chars that are good shop keepers as clerk to sell more.
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Old 2013-02-05, 07:24   Link #1935
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For unlocking the H-scene with the armour, you only need to enhance about 50% of it. Also don't bother enhance it (in your main goal is unlocking the scenes) until chapter 5-6, cuz they will occure in those chapter.

So it is wise to put lots of money to grade your shop --> items sell better/worth more, new synth recipe, synth cost less
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Old 2013-02-05, 08:13   Link #1936
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My Armor usage:
Yuela:
Beast master armor to start. It gives high evade, coupled with an evade shield (make sure you do not drop below spd breakpoint) and ninja knife it makes Yuela a ninja at dodging attacks.
Mid-late game: Fire armor. It gives high Str and has prevail.
NG+: God slayer armor. The armor by itself has high resist with Flurry III built in. While the skills are meh at best you are really just upgrading for stats.

Emilita:
Pumpkin robes: has prevail (although less useful on a caster). It also gives you a range 3, then range 4 earth magic which makes using her a lot less painful.
NG+: Little Devil. Bloodsuck+pervail+your fav elemental spell will be able to keep her alive for the most part.

Serawi:
Fire armor: while the range 9 spell can let you cheese certain mechanics, the bread of butter lies later in the armor with enhanced bombard giving you a +25str at range 3. Its the one skill that makes her decent at killing stuff if you have the money to feed her the potions.



Making money gets really easy once you get kahokuren that can port your characters all over the map. I made loads of my early game money selling crystals and spears.
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Old 2013-02-05, 09:22   Link #1937
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my armor usage:
yuela:
at the start: Beast master armor
mid-late game: Brave Lord Armor
ng+: God slayer armor

emilita:
at the start: any since a mage should not be in front of the line
mid-late game: Sage Robe
ng+: Little Devil Robe or Gothic

serawi:
at the start: fire armor or Harmonic Tunic
ng+: Gothic or Elf Princess Tunic

selling crystal but make sure to keep at least 10 each of jeweral for ng+ quest
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Old 2013-02-05, 18:30   Link #1938
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NOOOOOOOOOO

T_T I already spent a lot of money in Act I and Act II doing random upgrades all over the place
Its not hard making money... By the end of act III I was already almost maxed at cash. I'd recommend Emelita route first. Even with her unique weps she pretty damn weak.
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Old 2013-02-05, 19:13   Link #1939
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Hey guys I'm stuck at chapter 5 :/
I cleared everything and remodeled my store and workshop until level 6. Got 5227 evaluation as well.

The missions I have are "Go to Misanshell" and "Get promoted to next rank" (there's no event for it).

The quests I have are the ones about Aht, Suina, Crayl, Sharty and to Investigate de Elkaren creature.

I really don't know what to do here. I'm grinding the items but I think that's not needed to get an higher alchemist rank.

Please help.
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Old 2013-02-05, 19:20   Link #1940
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wat lvl are the character? ... this is will effect quest and character joining ...
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