2004-04-06, 22:12
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Indie Director
Join Date: Jul 2003
Age: 37
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Who is going to be Japan's top IDOL!?
Because I was bored, I bring you - BATTLE OF THE IDOLS! Using scientific data, I shall decide who is the best Japanese IDOL!
Now let's start this joint!  Contestant 01 Ayumi Hamasaki  Contestant 02 Utada Hikaru Ayumi - 25 Hikaru - 21 The battle of LOOKS Ayumi -  Hikaru - DRAW. The battle of SALES Debut Sales Number Ayumi debut 'A song for XX' - 1,415,910 Hikaru debut 'First Love' - 7,373,000 2003 Yearly Ranking Ayumi SINGLE - & placed 8 Hikaru SINGLE - COLORS placed 3 Ayumi ALBUM - RAINBOW placed 2 Hikaru - NONE, because she didn't release an album in 2003 Number of albums Ayumi - 25 (counting remixes) Hikaru - 4 Total Released Singles Number Ayumi - 32 Hikaru - 12 The battle of FANBOYS/FANGIRLS Ayumi GOOGLE search - about 107,000 Hikaru GOOGLE search - about 146,000 The battle of PVs Ayumi - dances, has strange costumes, weird concepts Hikaru - has strange costumes, weird concepts FINAL SCORE Ayumi - 5 Utada - 5 DRAW. SPECIAL BONUS ROUND International Appeal Ayumi - Korea, China, Germany, and Taiwan have housed her singles and albums Utada - Signed by defJam Island Records (which could mean a UK release), plus Korea, China, and Taiwan. DRAW. English Skills Ayumi - Weird snippets in songs Hikaru - Signed by US DefJam Island Records. Who does Chiaki like more? Ayumi - makes Chiaki want to kill herself Hikaru - iz teh bestest! Hikki FOREVAA!!!!!!!!!1111 UTADA HIKARU WIN. ROUND TWO CONTESTANTS - COMING SOON! Namie Amuro - pop star turned hip hop princess BoA - that weird Coolean (Korean :P) chick who sings Japanese songs Last edited by Chiaki Nozomi; 2004-04-07 at 19:50. |
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2004-04-07, 19:32
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Indie Director
Join Date: Jul 2003
Age: 37
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THE BATTLE CONTINUES!
 Contestant 03 Namie Amuro  Contestant 04 BoA The battle of YOUTH Namie- 26 BoA - 17 The battle of LOOKS Namie -  BoA - The battle of SALES Debut Sales Number Namie debut 'SWEET 19 BLUES' - 3,000,000+ BoA debut 'LISTEN TO MY HEART' - ??? (did not break records until VALENTI) 2003 Yearly Ranking Namie - Did not rank in top 100 BoA SINGLE 'JEWEL SONG' - placed 68 Namie - Did not rank in top 100 BoA ALBUM 'VALENTI' - placed 5 Number of albums Namie - 8 BoA - 3 Total Released Singles Number Namie - 26 BoA - 14 The battle of FANBOYS/FANGIRLS Namie GOOGLE search - about 35,000 BoA GOOGLE search - about 319,000 The battle of PVs Dancing Ability Namie - hip hop routines BoA - actual dance routines Concepts Namie - Typical pop/rap PVs BoA - Typical pop PVs DRAW. International Appeal Namie - Korea, China, and Taiwan BoA - Korea, China, and Taiwan DRAW. English Skills Namie - Weird snippets in songs BoA - Bad english in 'english' songs DRAW. Collabs Namie - Verbal BoA - m-flo DRAW. Number of Projects Namie - 3 BoA - 1 (2 if you count Korea) Who does Chiaki like more? Namie - is on Chiaki's workout playlist BoA- who dat? Chiaki dun like her! FINAL SCORE Namie - 10 BoA - 9 NAMIE AMURO WIN. ROUND THREE CONTESTANTS - COMING SOON! Morning Musume - that huge ass pop group you keep hearing about and the stars of Chiaki's sig. Learn all their names next time! Gackt - that one guy that looks like a girl so he gets put in contest for the IDOL position Last edited by Chiaki Nozomi; 2004-04-07 at 19:43. |
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2004-04-08, 20:17
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Indie Director
Join Date: Jul 2003
Age: 37
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THE BATTLE CONTINUES!
 Contestant 05 Morning Musume  Contestant 06 Gackt The battle of YOUTH Morning Musume - 15-22 Gackt - 464 (probably mid 30s) The battle of LOOKS Morning Musume - Gackt - DRAW. The battle of SALES Debut Sales Number Morning Musume 'First Time' - Peaked at #4 on the charts Gackt debut 'Mars' - Peaked at #3 on the charts 2003 Yearly Ranking Morning Musume SINGLES - placed 63, 64, 75, 88 Gackt - Did not rank in top 100 Multiple singles! PLUS FOUR POINTS! Morning Musume ALBUM 'NO. 5' - placed 92 Gackt - Did not rank in top 100 Number of albums Morning Musume - 19 Gackt - 6 Total Released Singles Number Morning Musume - 22 Gackt - 14 The battle of FANBOYS/FANGIRLS Morning Musume GOOGLE search - about 39,900 Gackt GOOGLE search - about 290,000 The battle of PVs Dancing Ability Morning Musume - badly choreographed to halfway decent Gackt - only he knows what the hell he is doing DRAW. Concepts Morning Musume - Anything to make the girls look cute Gackt - Anything to make him look sexy DRAW. International Appeal Morning Musume - Korea, China, and Taiwan Gackt - Korea, China, and Taiwan DRAW. The battles that DON'T FIT ANYWHERE ELSE! English Skills Morning Musume - Coconuts members and ex-Mika of ex-Mini Moni fluent Gackt - Claims to be fluent, but is really not Other languages? Morning Musume - What? There are other languages? Gackt - Chinese, French Number of Projects Morning Musume - 9+ Gackt - 2 How many members? Morning Musume - 13 (soon to be 11 with Graduation of Nozomi Tsuji and Ai Kago; Natsumi Abe graduated last Christmas) Gackt - 1 Whose fans are more moronic? Morning Musume - People don't admit to liking them Gackt - *urge to kill rising* Who does Chiaki like more? Morning Musume - is on Chiaki's workout playlist, Chiaki's cd player, Chiaki's DVD player... Gackt - is on Chiaki's cd player, her DVD player, her compy wallpaper... DRAW. FINAL SCORE Morning Musume - 17 Gackt - 9 MORNING MUSUME WIN. ROUND FOUR CONTESTANTS - COMING SOON! SMAP - Probably the greatest boy band to ever come from a pop factory. Name is in all caps. CHEMISTRY - that duo that keeps tearing up the charts despite their lack of musical talent. Name is in all caps. |
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2004-04-09, 22:20
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Indie Director
Join Date: Jul 2003
Age: 37
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AIINT! WRONG! I am in fact, a lover of Gackt as well. I have been with him since Malice Mizer. The point is - he got whooped. His cds and singles didn't top MM, and if you noticed, I tied most of the catagories that were silly, or added to make it even. I even added some to give him some points. Ah f-ck. If you had read the 'Who does Chiaki like more' you would've seen it was a draw. ^_^. Now to get working on the next round. |
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2004-04-10, 13:53
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Join Date: May 2003
Location: Dallas
Age: 39
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Keep it up Chiaki. This is "wanna laugh until I die" funny. But really, Ayumi should've won the battle with Hikki. Apparently the english skills category was planned in Hikaru's favor. Of course she speaks English better than any native Japanese, she was born in America and has lived there for half of her life. So in my opinion, category does not count. It all ends in tie.
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2004-04-10, 14:28
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Indie Director
Join Date: Jul 2003
Age: 37
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Don't worry Indicator101! Ayumi has a chance back in the competition... as do all of the losers. After all the end of all the first rounds, 2 losers can come back as 'Wild Cards'. Ayumi could be one of them, she could not. One will be 'Viewer's Choice' and the other will be chosen by me. As for why there was no update yesterday... I had another project going! Check it out here - Don't you wanna know what it is! Its just started, but I'm working on it as hard as I am this. I'll try to have the next round up this afternoon! |
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2004-04-10, 16:08
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Indie Director
Join Date: Jul 2003
Age: 37
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THE BATTLE CONTINUES!
 Contestant 07 SMAP - Kimura Takuya, Inagaki Goro, Nakai Masahiro, and Kusanagi Tsuyoshi  Contestant 08 CHEMISTRY - Kaname Kawata and Yoshikuni Dochin The battle of YOUTH SMAP - 29-32 CHEMISTRY - 29 and 28 The battle of LOOKS SMAP - CHEMISTRY - The battle of SALES Debut Sales Rank SMAP 'SMAP 001'- Peaked at #14 on the charts CHEMISTRY 'ONEXONE' - Peaked at #1 2003 Yearly Ranking SMAP SINGLE 'Sekai ni Hitotsu Dake no Hana' N0. 01 ! CHEMISTRY - ranked 20 and 46 SMAP TOP SINGLE! PLUS 10 BONUS POINTS! CHEMISTRY MULTIPLE SINGLES! PLUS 2 BONUS POINTS! SMAP ALBUMS - ranked 23, 46 CHEMISTRY ALBUM 'SECOND TO NONE' No. 01! CHEMISTRY TOP ALBUM! PLUS 10 BONUS POINTS! SMAP MULTIPLE ALBUMS! PLUS 2 BONUS POINTS! Number of albums SMAP - 16 CHEMISTRY - 4 Total Released Singles Number SMAP - 35 CHEMISTRY - 12 The battle of FANBOYS/FANGIRLS SMAP GOOGLE search - about 44,500 CHEMISTRY GOOGLE search - about 314,000 The battle of PVs Dancing Ability SMAP - Aren't the best, but they try CHEMISTRY - Can't remember ever seeing them dance.... DRAW. Concepts SMAP - Can't really pinpoint what they do... CHEMISTRY - Look at us! We're sExY! DRAW. International Appeal SMAP - Korea, China, and Taiwan CHEMISTRY - Korea, China, and Taiwan DRAW. The battles that DON'T FIT ANYWHERE ELSE! English Skills SMAP - Takai speaks pretty good english, as does Takuya. They are not fluent though. CHEMISTRY - Weird snippets in songs Number of Projects SMAP - 2+ CHEMISTRY - 1 Whose fangirls are mightier? SMAP - Never seen any fanfiction CHEMISTRY - Yaoi fanfiction is to be found! Who does Chiaki like more? SMAP - I think its obvious that I'm a SMAP fangirl - everyone go out and watch their weekly show 'SMAPXSMAP NOW! CHEMISTRY - I think its obvious that I'm as far from a CHEMISTRY fangirl as it can get FINAL SCORE SMAP - 22 CHEMISTRY - 20 SMAP WIN. ROUND FIVE CONTESTANTS - COMING SOON! Mika Nakashima - The best adult pop contemporary singer you've never heard of MISIA - The best jR&B singer you've never heard of Last edited by Chiaki Nozomi; 2004-04-11 at 18:22. |
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2004-04-10, 16:10
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2004-04-11, 19:37
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Indie Director
Join Date: Jul 2003
Age: 37
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THE BATTLE CONTINUES!
 Contestant 09 Mika Nakashima  Contestant 10 MISIA The battle of YOUTH Mika - 21 MISIA - 26 The battle of LOOKS Mika- MISIA - DRAW. The battle of SALES Debut Sales Rank Mika 'TRUE' - Peaked at #1 on the charts, 73 weeks MISIA 'Mother Father Brother Sister' - Peaked at #1, 77 weeks 2003 Yearly Ranking Mika SINGLES 'Yuki no Hana', 'FIND THE WAY, and 'Aishiteru' ranked 53, 79, 99 MISIA - did not rank... MIKA MULTIPLE SINGLES! PLUS 3 BONUS POINTS! Mika ALBUM 'LOVE' ranked 14 MISIA ALBUM 'Hoshizora no Live' ranked 96 Number of albums Mika - 13 MISIA - 27 Total Released Singles Number Mika - 11 MISIA - 16 The battle of FANBOYS/FANGIRLS Mika GOOGLE search - about 12,800 MISIA GOOGLE search - about 310,000 The battle of PVs Dancing Ability Mika - Doesn't dance, but does get lower and lower to the ground as she sings. MISIA - Doesn't dance herself, but does hire dancers to look cool for her. DRAW. Concepts Mika - Different concepts in each PV MISIA - Ranges from bizzare to cool DRAW. International Appeal Mika - Korea, China, and Taiwan MISIA - Korea, China, and Taiwan DRAW. The battles that DON'T FIT ANYWHERE ELSE! English Skills Mika - Did a rendition of Amazing Grace. Had prominant Japanese accent. MISIA - Halfway decent snippets DRAW. Who does Chiaki like more? Mika - I like her as much as I like MISIA plus a nudge. MISIA - I like her as much as I like Mika Nakashima. DRAW. FINAL SCORE Mika - 12 MISIA - 10 MIKA NAKASHIMA WIN. ROUND SIX CONTESTANTS - COMING SOON! Koda Kumi - That one chick that did that themes for that one game and now is trying to be Miss hip hop thang. Big Sister. Day After Tomorrow - That trio that makes that 80s synth music and does themes for games not released here. Koda Kumi's little sis Misono lead singer. Random Talk How do I come up with the battles? And are they fair? Some battles I chose for obvious reasons (i.e. Ayu vs. Hikki), some I chose for competiveness (SMAP vs. CHEMISTRY), some for fun (MM vs. Gackt and tomorrow's Koda Kumi vs. DAT), and some because they were the first thing that popped into my mind (Mika Nakashima vs. MISIA). Sometimes I wish I had not used a certain person in a battle, because there were other, more 'even' battles I could've done so that it would be a duo vs. duo or group vs. group. Do I know the winner before I start? Not really. For instance, in the first battle I thought Hikki would stomp Ayu. It ended with a tie, and I had to use a bonus round to get a clear winner. MM vs. Gackt shocked me at the final numbers. Gackt is such a prominant guest on Music Shows, I thought his sales would've been higher. The SMAP vs. CHEMISTRY surprised me too. SMAP barely won through the fact that they've been around longer. This nature makes the battle actually fun to look up and see the winner. At the beginning, I had debut sales numbers, but as the battles went on, I found it almost impossible to find sales numbers. So I changed it to peaked position, which means I can now find almost all the information for the battles by surfing the Oricon. As for fairness, I try to balance things out so they end up winning by sales, fans numbers. I never count my personal likeness unless it is a tie when I count up the final figures. But it is my little game, so I could make up rules as I go...  And that was the first and probably last random talk for awhile.
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2004-04-25, 22:12
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Houston
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1)I'd like to know why you think CHEMISTRY is untalented. Can you elaborate a little bit more please? I'm a fan of thiers, but I can't find an english site on them ANYWHERE!!
2) when you did a Google search, how did you narrow it down to CHEMISTRY the music duo and not that class you take in High School (with the beakers and chemicals and whatnot :P) 3) Not to tell you what to do, but do you think "The Uncoloured" or "Nami Taminaki" have a chance at showing up in the future (not together, of course :P) And Is it okay for a boy to post in this thread, or is it soley fangirl territory? X_X |
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2004-04-25, 23:24
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Evangelist of the Kazoo
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: AnimeSuki Forums
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Woah woah woah, how the heck does Namie Amuro beat BoA? She sounds like a japanese Britney Spears. BoA has a much smoother, obviously less synthesizer-enchanced voice. Saeko Chiba > BoA > Mikumi Shimokawa > Namie Amuro. That's a math equation anyone can understand.
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2004-04-30, 18:35
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Totally in Japan.
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A bunch of the things you're using are completely irrelevant...debut single sales are completely useless in determining a singer's staying power, and only measure the record company hype. (How do you hear about a debut single before it's out? Hype.)
On top of that Namie is almost completely washed up. Her last single is horribly awful, as are 3 out of the last 4 tracks she's released. Nakashima Miki SUCKS. She cannot sing. And if you're going to compare looks, you should use a picture of the "new" Misia, the one that had plastic surgery last year. In any case it's transparently obvious that this all breaks down to: "Who does Chiaki Nozomi like to listen to more?! Everyone look at me!" It'd be nice if there were some outside debate allowed, or perhaps, shorter posts by you, so others can toss in their 2 cents. As far as who the next "actual" idol is going to be? There's too many people vying for that crown right now. In the past, everyone just sort of got out of the way. When Namie hit, there were hardly any big single person acts out. ELT, Globe, TRF, they were all groups. You can't really count Tomomi Kahala, because everyone knew she couldn't sing, but TK gave her good melodies, beats, and songs...cuz she was his wife. When Ayumi came out Utada Hikaru and Kuraki Mai were battling each other, and left the door open for Ayumi by not releasing anything for a while. Avex capitalized by pumping out a bunch of Ayumi crap (4 different albums of remixes released at the same time? Gag.) and she monopolized the airtime as a result. But people grew tired of her very rapidly. In short, there isn't an "idol to end all idols" left out of the current crop of acts. If anyone, it'd probably be Matsuura Aya. She has popluarity, is too stupid be egotistical at this point, and is young enough to have a legion of fans again in 5-10 years, where everyone isn't tired of "idols" anymore. She could re-peak, at around 20-22 and be huge all by herself. Without one dominant producer, you can't have one dominant singer. TK doesn't have it anymore, meaning it's wide open. |
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