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Old 2012-04-07, 02:41   Link #441
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If Key themselves are heavily involved in the making it's not like I'm not willing to trust J.C.Staff. They could still create something like Shana Final and that's still only recently.

But, some people do have allergic reaction to the name "J.C" so expect some storm brewing

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Sometimes the bigger names and more experienced staff have their own ideas of how to do things and are more likely to insert themselves into the work. So, sometimes working with underdogs (who have something to prove) can be a bet that pays off.
But I heard J.C has even longer history than KyoAni. You'd think they have an even bigger ego than KyoAni. Maybe that's why they tend to screw everything they adapt
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Old 2012-04-07, 02:42   Link #442
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Maybe it is a false rumor. Or maybe we will see a remake by KyoAni in a few years (a push to get them to notice). Or maybe it will be good with whoever does it based on its own merits (source material might trump anything).

I do recall that J.C. Staff likes to poke fun at KyoAni from time to time, and probably vice versa. Recall the little Toradora special that poked fun as Haruhi-chan. Or the Index-tan special that had Uiharu make an offhand comment about having herself play a guitar (in K-On Yui's voice).
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Old 2012-04-07, 02:43   Link #443
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Old 2012-04-07, 02:46   Link #444
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If it's true (considering Yamakawa is even worse than Yamakan), then the posts are consisted of none other than bashing or facepalming.
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I don't think they were desperate. Past interviews suggested that they actually rejected previous offers and teams, and that many companies were interested in the project. If this is indeed true, we should assume that they chose the team they felt would do a good job.
Actually, now that's a very good point. Key have spoken about rejecting numerous offers, which would seem to indicate that they've spent a long time thinking about this. Key takes their adaptations very seriously, I should have a bit more faith in their decision.

It's not like JC are the worst studio ever, they've made some pretty amazing Anime.
EDIT: And this is me getting way too ahead of myself, it's just a rumor after all. It might not even be true.
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Old 2012-04-07, 02:48   Link #446
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But I heard J.C has even longer history than KyoAni. You'd think they have an even bigger ego than KyoAni. Maybe that's why they tend to screw everything they adapt
Well, I was referring more to the specific (rumoured) staff. J.C.Staff is a big company that coordinates lots of different teams and projects, so it's pretty hard to generalize the entire company. And I really don't think they "tend to screw everything they adapt" either -- they just tend to do a lot of projects and so the projects have a lot of variety and varying reception. The specific point that they seem to be most hated for -- not being faithful to the source material -- is more about the writing anyway, and I'm sure that Key will have heavy involvement in the writing here.
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Old 2012-04-07, 02:58   Link #447
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Well, I was referring more to the specific (rumoured) staff. J.C.Staff is a big company that coordinates lots of different teams and projects, so it's pretty hard to generalize the entire company. And I really don't think they "tend to screw everything they adapt" either -- they just tend to do a lot of projects and so the projects have a lot of variety and varying reception. The specific point that they seem to be most hated for -- not being faithful to the source material -- is more about the writing anyway, and I'm sure that Key will have heavy involvement in the writing here.
Ah, yes, that's what I meant. Which is why I'm willing to give it a chance with Key involved directly.
But, I'd still expect some people who'd say "the game was a hundred times better!". And they might not be wrong
JC doesn't have the best of popularity, in Japan or otherwise. It'll be hard to regain the trust.
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Old 2012-04-07, 02:59   Link #448
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The news seems to be coming out; seeking the official source...

NOTE: At this point this should only be considered a rumour until proof is provided.

Producer: Kawase Kohei
Director: Yamakawa Yoshiki
Series Composition: Shimada Michiru
Character Design: Iizuka Haruko
Animation Production: J.C.Staff


I imagine some people will fear the worst, but I do think everyone is extremely aware of the high expectations, so I think people should wait and see.
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Old 2012-04-07, 03:00   Link #449
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I would be amazed if KEY rejected several offers to animate LB only to settle on a no-name staff like this.
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Old 2012-04-07, 03:07   Link #450
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...... JC staff? animating little busters............... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Worst news ever if this is true!
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Old 2012-04-07, 03:10   Link #451
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Which is why I'm willing to give it a chance with Key involved directly.
I don't know about the other staff, but Maeda mentioned on twitter a couple days back that he'll have very little to do with the anime adaptation other than reading over the scripts once they're completed. Which does not sound like it'll bode well.

Aah man, JC's history with adaptations is so far down in the gutter. I'm praying for a miracle!
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Old 2012-04-07, 03:11   Link #452
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But, I'd still expect some people who'd say "the game was a hundred times better!". And they might not be wrong
JC doesn't have the best of popularity, in Japan or otherwise. It'll be hard to regain the trust.
Well, honestly speaking, I think some people would say that anyway if it's anyone other than Kyoto Animation doing the work, even if would written in the very same way in either case. I guess you're right that it is about "trust"; Kyoto Animation stands for high-quality works, but J.C. Staff does so many shows that it doesn't really stand for anything on its own.


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I would be amazed if KEY rejected several offers to animate LB only to settle on a no-name staff like this.
Eh, I don't know... Director notwithstanding, the producer did Index and Railgun, which were hugely successful. The writer has a large history of adapting some major literature into anime form (those are some very respected franchises). The character designer has a large history of both character design and animation direction work including work on some well-liked shows (most recently Chief Animation Director on Idolmaster, for example). So... it's not so "no-name" at all. The only somewhat new-ish person is the director, but it's not as if it's a rookie there either.

Again, of course, if true.
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Just thought I'd post this. Could some info have got confused somewhere?
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Old 2012-04-07, 03:15   Link #454
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If I were Key, I would have held out until KyoAni were free to take on the project. It's not like the fans haven't already waited, what's another few seasons?
I'm sure that's what FMP fans keep telling themselves as well
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Old 2012-04-07, 03:17   Link #455
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I guess some people still have bad memories from Tsukihime (never watcing it myself...not so much into the actual works of Type-Moon...just the parodies).

Though Shana did well...at least at first.
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Old 2012-04-07, 03:21   Link #456
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If the information is true, it'll mean that Warner got hold of the project. That would be a huge coup for their new anime unit (which is really the former Geneon crew in practice).

Nevertheless, I'll remain skeptical for now.

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I would be amazed if KEY rejected several offers to animate LB only to settle on a no-name staff like this.
I'm inclined to agree, but I'd have to say that the three people listed have earned much acclaim over the years. Iizuka is an ace animator (recently making the jump to lead character design duties), whereas Yamakawa has been regarded as an up and coming star (also an experienced animator but one getting involved with direction).
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Old 2012-04-07, 03:22   Link #457
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Even if the director or producer do a good job, I still have reservations on the consistency of the animation quality dished up by JC Staff.
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I guess some people still have bad memories from Tsukihime (never watcing it myself...not so much into the actual works of Type-Moon...just the parodies).
People always blame the animation production studio even though it makes no sense to do so. The scriptwriter was approved by the production committee, and all the scripts (along with the allotted length for the anime, etc.) were approved by them. It's like people have the idea that the people funding the show (who are not by any means J.C. Staff alone, though sometimes they pitch in) somehow just hand the animators a bucket of money and say "have fun!" and it's just totally random how the shows turn out from that point out. No contractor does work without having it approved by the people paying them, and given that the production committee approved the scripts, the way it turned out is their fault. If they were asleep at the wheel and didn't intervene, then it's still their fault -- they're the ones who hired the writer, not J.C. Staff. But people still blame the studio anyway because... who knows. It's easier?

(This will basically apply no matter who the final studio for this show is, even if this rumour is false. )
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Old 2012-04-07, 03:34   Link #459
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People always blame the animation production studio even though it makes no sense to do so. The scriptwriter was approved by the production committee, and all the scripts (along with the allotted length for the anime, etc.) were approved by them. It's like people have the idea that the people funding the show (who are by any means J.C. Staff alone, though sometimes they pitch in) somehow just hand the animators a bucket of money and say "have fun!" and it's just totally random how the shows turn out. No contractor does work without having it approved, and given that the production committee approved the scripts, the way it turned out is their fault. If they were asleep at the wheel and didn't intervene, then it's still their fault -- they're the ones who hired the writer, not J.C. Staff. But people still blame the studio anyway because... who knows. It's easier?
To play the devil's advocate here, it's called blame by association and their name is at the top of that blame-list. J.C. Staff can always say no, but it's funny how they are one of those studios who tend to be involved with shows that turn out to be crap on a regular basis. In this case, however, the rumored director associated in those names you listed alarms me the most.

LB fans can raise their hand if you still don't want Shaft in the mix. Sorry, I just couldn't resist throwing that in there
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