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Old 2012-10-23, 13:28   Link #1
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U.N. calls for 'anti-terror' Internet surveillance

Article here.

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Open Wi-Fi networks: "Requiring registration for the use of Wi-Fi networks or cybercafes could provide an important data source for criminal investigations... There is some doubt about the utility of targeting such measures at Internet cafes only when other forms of public Internet access (e.g. airports, libraries and public Wi-Fi hotspots) offer criminals (including terrorists) the same access opportunities and are unregulated."

Cell phone tracking: "Location data is also important when used by law enforcement to exclude suspects from crime scenes and to verify alibis."

Terror video games: "Video footage of violent acts of terrorism or video games developed by terrorist organizations that simulate acts of terrorism and encourage the user to engage in role-play, by acting the part of a virtual terrorist."

Paying companies for surveillance: "It is therefore desirable that Governments provide a clear legal basis for the obligations placed on private sector parties, including... how the cost of providing such capabilities is to be met."
It's like I'm reading a chapter in some kind of dystopian novel, only it's real. Dear god, how horrifying.
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Old 2012-10-23, 16:31   Link #2
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Old 2012-10-23, 16:37   Link #3
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So they're including video games now? I guess that means all those very popular shooters like Counterstrike are to be banned?

*sigh* Can I move off-planet yet?
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Old 2012-10-23, 16:42   Link #4
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*sigh* Can I move off-planet yet?
I think "Shoot Bin Laden Flash Games" are exempted... LOLS
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Old 2012-10-23, 16:57   Link #5
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I wonder if such a thing will boost interest in Space travel....to get away from "Earth laws".
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Old 2012-10-23, 16:57   Link #6
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Cell phone tracking: "Location data is also important when used by law enforcement to exclude suspects from crime scenes and to verify alibis."
Riiiight.

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Old 2012-10-23, 17:10   Link #7
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"Anyone can be a terrorist!" "What do we do?!" "QUICK! SURVEY EVERYONE!"

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Old 2012-10-23, 18:19   Link #8
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Y'know

Whenever I see these totalitarian ideas, I wonder if it wouldn't actually be better to support terrorists

I'm not condoning terrorism, but should we condone the stripping of liberties and rights?
are at a certain point the fanatic nutcases a 'lesser evil' that those who claim to 'protect' us?
Will at some point every nation/the world have its own Bin Laden, heralded by the common folk, despised by their governments?

Robin Hoods 2.0?

You don't have anything to fear if you do nothing wrong"

...u-hu, yeh, and WHO's gonna define what's right or wrong?
You, me?
Or the people that don't like you criticizing their 'effort' for a 'safer' place to let your children ("For God's sake, think about the children!" ) grow up in?


The comment about going into space is actually a very good one
Remember the "Land of the Free" was colonized by people trying to get away from the totalitarian "Old World"
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Old 2012-10-23, 18:24   Link #9
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Old 2012-10-23, 18:25   Link #10
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Y'know

Whenever I see these totalitarian ideas, I wonder if it wouldn't actually be better to support terrorists
However asinine those proposed ideas are, I'd say actual mass murderers still takes the cake.

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I'm not condoning terrorism, but should we condone the stripping of liberties and rights?
It's not a zero-sum game, it's not one or the other.
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Old 2012-10-23, 18:57   Link #11
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However asinine those proposed ideas are, I'd say actual mass murderers still takes the cake.
And how many Democratic Governments are responsible for mass murder?

Keep in mind: what you may not call a democratic government, they themselves probably think otherwise

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It's not a zero-sum game, it's not one or the other.
Actually, it's would be both
"Freedom Fighters" and "Democratic Governments" trying to take out eachother's supporters

And I'm using quotation marks to point out that both will believe 'they themselves' are the good guys

Those that become the victim of one will start to support the other
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Old 2012-10-23, 19:16   Link #12
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Ben Franklin is rolling in his grave.

Could there be any more despicable representations of those who sacrifice everything for "security?"
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Old 2012-10-23, 19:26   Link #13
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And how many Democratic Governments are responsible for mass murder?
Yeah, since a supposedly democratic government would be disqualified its "democratic" status if they commit mass murder or ethnic cleansing, of course the answer would be "not much".

I means if the UK or US government starts to gun down its people now, we will all put our hand up and claiming that "clearly they were not democratic all along"



On another note, what gonna happen to Counter Strike then? They gonna replace 'terrorists' side by 'clowns' and 'bomb setting missions' by 'children molestation' or something?
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Old 2012-10-23, 19:35   Link #14
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Old 2012-10-23, 19:55   Link #15
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Oh, playing as virtual terrorists in a video game encourages people to become terrorists themselves.

To be fair, it says "video games developed by terrorist organizations"... but terrorist organizations don't develop video games. They're called terrorist organizations for a reason.

Who are the intellectually challenged individuals who came up with this intellectually challenged material?
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Old 2012-10-23, 20:03   Link #16
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but terrorist organizations don't develop video games.
EA Games.
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Old 2012-10-23, 20:07   Link #17
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Depends what one considers a "terrorist orginization" now doesn't it?

A terrorist group could spend its days hacking computers to "terrorize" citizens and governments. It could create computer viruses to cripple enemy infrustructures.

Not every terrorist runs around with an AK-47 and a RPG-7 shouting "death to America".
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Old 2012-10-23, 20:09   Link #18
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And how many Democratic Governments are responsible for mass murder?
US, Aussieland, Belgium, Poland (not genocide, but ethnic cleansing) most of the Western Government has plenty of blood on its hands.
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Old 2012-10-23, 20:12   Link #19
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A terrorist group could spend its days hacking computers to "terrorize" citizens and governments. It could create computer viruses to cripple enemy infrustructures.

Not every terrorist runs around with an AK-47 and a RPG-7 shouting "death to America".
I didn't say that they couldn't engage in cyber warfare or electronic sabotage. I just said they don't make video games.

Developing video games as a form of terrorism would just be a waste of time.
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US, Aussieland, Belgium, Poland (not genocide, but ethnic cleansing) most of the Western Government has plenty of blood on its hands.
Usually not of their own citizens. Though sometimes they make it so those it is done too are not longer considered citizens.


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I didn't say that they couldn't engage in cyber warfare or electronic sabotage. I just said they don't make video games.

Developing video games as a form of terrorism would just be a waste of time.
Video game....simulation. Same thing in some cases. You want to give your operatives training on how to get into a government building, or experiance tactical training if you don't have the means to train live....or need to maintain cover...program a simulation to cover the known variables and run it and them though it many many times. Need to plot to run an airplane into a specific building...Flight Simulator time!

(Holodeck technologies would make this even more viable...scary and yet fun at the same time).
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