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Old 2014-02-18, 13:15   Link #1541
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It depends how much Sony have stockpiled for Japan.

300-500k?
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Old 2014-02-18, 14:35   Link #1542
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To be honest, I don't see how the PS4 could match that number. However, as long as the Japanese developers keep showing interest in developing PS4 titles, I'm happy. I just hope they don't get caught up in the graphic race of the next gen console and forget about making a good game instead.
Maybe not on the first day, but gradually it might just reach that number someday or surpass it. There are so many years for this console, I've seen some comments on the net a couple months back before PS4 released anywhere, saying that the PS4 could potentially be the next PS2 in terms of popularity.
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Old 2014-02-18, 16:04   Link #1543
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I can only see PS4 doing around 200-300k for its 1st week in Japan.
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Old 2014-02-18, 16:58   Link #1544
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Maybe not on the first day, but gradually it might just reach that number someday or surpass it. There are so many years for this console, I've seen some comments on the net a couple months back before PS4 released anywhere, saying that the PS4 could potentially be the next PS2 in terms of popularity.
It's a bit too soon for those predictions. Sure, the PS4 is looking much more popular than the it's competitors (Xbox One and Wii U) and gamers are responding much more positively to it than they did to the PS3 but that doesn't mean anything until the games are out. Let's just hope that developers stop pushing pixels and return to experimenting a bit with different ways to tell stories and/or novel gameplay mechanics.
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Old 2014-02-18, 18:31   Link #1545
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So far we are still seeing that PS4 is selling 1 million a month. So the issue is that Sony probably is unable to spare stock for the Japanese releases. Japanese sales won't break records, but instead I predict that it would sell about as much as what Sony is willing to spare there on release week. Half a million? Possible, but probably less just on supply constraint alone.
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Old 2014-02-18, 19:17   Link #1546
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PLAYSTATION®4 SALES SURPASS 5.3 MILLION UNITS WORLDWIDE

The console race continues to see who can sell more. Important to note that the word used in the press release is sold through which means it sold directly to customers. Looks good considering this is pre-Japan release which should see another million unit add on to it if it can match the momentum it had when PS2 was originally launched there.

PS2 sold 980k unit on the first day in Japan.
man, those number can even go super higher if they have their consoles in stocks.

just about a week ago when i order my ps4 on amazon when it just has them in
stocks, then "BAM" they're out of ps4 again in just a few days.

that, and i also pick up Ass-ass-in Creed 4 & Tomb Raider DE (just cause it's only $39.99 today on amazon).
can't wait to try these bad boys out on the ps4.
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Old 2014-02-18, 19:37   Link #1547
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man, those number can even go super higher if they have their consoles in stocks.

just about a week ago when i order my ps4 on amazon when it just has them in
stocks, then "BAM" they're out of ps4 again in just a few days.

that, and i also pick up Ass-ass-in Creed 4 & Tomb Raider DE (just cause it's only $39.99 today on amazon).
can't wait to try these bad boys out on the ps4.
Amazon has some good deals sometimes. Before launch I pre-ordered 2 games and got one free.
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Old 2014-02-19, 04:39   Link #1548
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It'll be interesting to see how many console sold and allocated to the Japan's market. I think everyone have been pretty pessimistic about the Japan market for awhile now and the fact that you got PS4 releasing 3 months after NA release is pretty indicative of the falling priority of the Japan market.

Still, being able to topped PS2 record will be a huge boost in both marketing and morale for Sony considering it's historically the best selling console. Not only that, it would hopefully get developers back onboard to developing for console which have been straying further to mobile market.

The only problem i see is the lack of high end release at launch. Software sells especially in Japan. The only moneymaker in there is Yakuza Ishin which i think is a pretty potent franchise in the Japan?
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Old 2014-02-19, 06:32   Link #1549
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One thing is for sure, Sony will not over or under allocate the PS4 in Japan. The simple fact is they have the absolute internal numbers of how many PS4 had been preordered in Japan, and using that they can make a reasonable estimate at expected monthly sales.
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Old 2014-02-19, 06:50   Link #1550
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There is no chance that the PS4 will open as big as the PS2 did. I really wish it would but no way. I doubt anything will ever beat the 900k+ first weekend.

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The only problem i see is the lack of high end release at launch. Software sells especially in Japan. The only moneymaker in there is Yakuza Ishin which i think is a pretty potent franchise in the Japan?
Yakuza is a big selling franchise in Japan but Ishin is not a main line game. The main line games are the 500-700k sellers. Ishin should be closer to Kenzan and of the End with 300-450k. Also the problem with Ishin is that it is also on PS3. Sega apparently expects 150k LTD from Ishin on PS4. That's pretty telling that they do not expect much.
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Old 2014-02-19, 08:18   Link #1551
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that, and i also pick up Ass-ass-in Creed 4 & Tomb Raider DE (just cause it's only $39.99 today on amazon).
can't wait to try these bad boys out on the ps4.
You fell into the trap of buying a $400+ machine to play 7th Gen ports
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Old 2014-02-19, 08:45   Link #1552
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You fell into the trap of buying a $400+ machine to play 7th Gen ports
Believe it or not, it actually looks better.

Heck, I would double dip on some games on the current gens if it gets ported to the PS4. You may try to play Shadow of Colossus on the PS3 and see how it's vastly different compare to PS2 version, so it's not strange for people to buy PS3 games on the PS4.

As I said before, I hope the Japanese developer doesn't fall into the trap of chasing next gen graphic. They could just keep the current graphic and port it onto the PS4 and I would still buying. I'd love to play an Atelier game without horrible framerate, or a Gundam versus on splitscreen without framerate issue, and be able to record/stream video for Blazblue match would be godsend for small scale tournament or inhouse matches. I would have bought the PS4 day one if they had those games or had some kind of backward compatibility. As of right now, I don't really have any interest in the next gen games, aside from Yakuza Ishin.

At the current selling rate (worldwide), the PS4 already surpassed the PS2.

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PS1:

4 months (one territory) - March 31st, 1995 - 0.85 million
10 months - September 30th, 1995 - 1.77 million
16 months - March 31st, 1996 - 4.26 million
22 months - September 30th, 1996 - 8.07 million
28 months - March 31st, 1997 - 13.50 million
34 months - September 30th, 1997 - 22.50 million


PS2:

1 month (one territory) - March 31st, 2000 - 1.41 million
7 months (one territory) - September 30th, 2000 - 3.52 million
13 months - March 31st, 2001 - 10.61 million
19 months - September 30th, 2001 - 19.58 million
22 months - December 31st, 2001 - 24.99 million
25 months - March 31st, 2002 - 28.68 million
28 months - June 30th, 2002 - 33.27 million
31 months - September 30th, 2002 - 41.56 million
34 months - December 31st, 2002 - 49.59 million


PS3:

1 month - December 31st, 2006 - 1.7 million
4 months - March 31st, 2007 - 3.5 million
7 months - June 30th, 2007 - 4.2 million
10 months - September 30th, 2007 - 5.5 million
13 months - December 31st, 2007 - 10.4 million
16 months - March 31st, 2007 - 12.6 million
19 months - June 30th, 2007 - 14.2 million
22 months - September 30th, 2007 - 16.6 million
25 months - December 31st, 2007 - 21.1 million
28 months - March 31st, 2008 - 22.7 million
31 months - June 30th, 2008 - 23.8 million
34 months - September 30th, 2008 - 27.0 million


PS4:

1 day - November 16th, 2013 - 1 million
2 weeks - December 1st, 2013 - 2.1 million
1 month - December 28th, 2013 - 4.2 million
3 months - February 8th, 2014 - 5.3 million
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Looks like Japanese video game store owners are getting creative in explaining the power of the PS4 to their customers. One decided to resort to one of Japan’s most beloved anime and manga series: Dragonball.
In the picture at the bottom of this post you can see the peculiar billboard placed on the shop’s counter, as shared by Twitter user Kurage.
Here’s a translation of what the sign says:

PS4: just how powerful is it?
If you compare the PS3 to Freeza’s first form (battle power 530,000)
PS4 is a monster machine like the fourth form of Freeza (battle power 60 million).
[8GB Memory] -> 16 times the PS3. Power: Can use the Death Beam 16 times at the same time.
[8 Cores] -> 8 Times the PS3. Number of programs that can be executed: The Ginyu Force is now 40 people.
[Memory GDDR5] -> 7 Times the PS3. Processing Speed: Will move seven time quicker.
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Old 2014-02-19, 09:30   Link #1553
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They got me at "ginyu force is now 40 people".
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Old 2014-02-19, 12:49   Link #1554
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Helldivers details campaign, cyborgs, mechs, and more



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Mechs – Helldivers will have a fleet of advanced vehicles to tackle some of the game’s “unforgiving environments.” The standard mech is equipped with a Gatling gun and a grenade launcher pod.
Titan Invasion coming to PlayStation 4, PS Vita, and PS3




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Continuing its month-long of PlayStation game announcements (Stealth Inc: Ultimate Edition, MouseCraft), Curve Studios announced Titan Invasion, a collection of two arcade action games from U.K. developer Puppygames, for PlayStation 4, PS Vita, and PlayStation 3.
Strike Suit Zero coming to PS4 and Xbox One in March



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Strike Suit Zero is coming to PlayStation 4 and Xbox One via digital download in March as Strike Suit Zero: Director’s Cut, Born Ready Games announced.

It will cost $14.99 / £14.99 / €18.99.

The Director’s Cut offers a restructured campaign, “particularly relating to the first few missions,” allowing the player to get in the cockpit of the Strike Suit much earlier, with an adapted story and new dialogue.
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Old 2014-02-19, 14:01   Link #1555
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You fell into the trap of buying a $400+ machine to play 7th Gen ports
that's what happen when you buy a console and there's nothing to PLAY!

but seriously, i bought AC 4 on ps4 cause i dont like having to deal with UPLAY drm
from the PC. and Tomb Raider cause i have never play it before and it was $40. i can
get it from steam for $10, but oh well, ps4 it is.

but the main reason why i even bother getting a PS4 was cause Dynasty Warriors 8
is coming to the ps4. i wanted to get the ps4 first when it was in stock so that
i dont have to deal with "OUT OF STOCK" craps when DW8 comes out on 3-25-2014.

so anyways, AC4 and Tomb Raider arrive today, so i might as well enjoy them!
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Old 2014-02-19, 16:25   Link #1556
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I could have built myself a gaming PC instead of getting PS4 but I'm a full time student on a tight budget, so PS4 was my option for the next few years of HD gaming. The next biggest thing that made me get a PS4 was the promise of the kind of awesome exclusives PS always gets.

7th gen consoles are out of date now, it's tech is basically about decade old, I don't see why it's a "trap" to buy a game that performs better on a more powerful console. If anything its making better use of your money (if you have some to spend on gaming). Would you pay $60 for a game on 7th gen. and get standard to low performance, or pay $60 for a game and get high to max performance on next gen consoles? Which would you get the most out of?
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Old 2014-02-19, 18:02   Link #1557
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There is no chance that the PS4 will open as big as the PS2 did. I really wish it would but no way. I doubt anything will ever beat the 900k+ first weekend.
To be honest, I don't think it will even break 400k or heck the 300k mark(okay I'm low balling this ). I still think around 200-250k is the range.
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Old 2014-02-20, 06:05   Link #1558
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You may try to play Shadow of Colossus on the PS3 and see how it's vastly different compare to PS2 version, so it's not strange for people to buy PS3 games on the PS4.
You're being misleading by bringing up a game that had serious framerate issues on its original platform.
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Would you pay $60 for a game on 7th gen. and get standard to low performance, or pay $60 for a game and get high to max performance on next gen consoles?
This comparison only makes sense if the game was underperforming on the PS3 in the first place. For most games, this is not the case, and you'd gain nothing from porting them to the PS4.
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You're being misleading by bringing up a game that had serious framerate issues on its original platform.
But all the games I mentioned have issue on the PS3 in the first place. AC4 and TR all are underperforming on the PS3, and the PS4 version is just much better.
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Old 2014-02-20, 14:51   Link #1560
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You're being misleading by bringing up a game that had serious framerate issues on its original platform.

This comparison only makes sense if the game was underperforming on the PS3 in the first place. For most games, this is not the case, and you'd gain nothing from porting them to the PS4.
Most AAA games have been toned down severely on the current-gen consoles for the better part of the last 2/3 years. The new consoles at least bring the games up to the level of current mid-high gaming PCs. There's definitely a graphical and performance advantage in getting the latest AAA games on the next-gen consoles.
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