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Old 2012-04-15, 18:37   Link #21
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I can get the DreamColor for 2000 right now (2,600 dollars), should I get it? Or go for something else?
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Old 2012-04-15, 19:47   Link #22
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I suggest again that you don't aim for as closer to perfect as possible image quality, but instead aim for good enough, and use the rest of your money for things that would improve your viewing experience more than 100% of Adobe RGB, like a better audio setup, or even a more comfortable chair would make your viewing experience better than near perfect color accuracy.

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Anime, movies, tv shows, video gaming... I am using a computer screen like 15 hours a day.
None of those activities are color critical. An example of a color critical activity would be editing images for print in a magazine.

If you decide that you do need a professional monitor, ask yourself whether the rest of your setup capable of using the display to its full potential?
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Old 2012-04-15, 20:07   Link #23
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use the rest of your money for things that would improve your viewing experience more than 100% of Adobe RGB, like a better audio setup, or even a more comfortable chair would make your viewing experience better than near perfect color accuracy.
Yeah my audio setup for the PC absolutely sucks, I used to have a 2.1 setup from Trust, it was actually very cheap and the sound from the speakers was very good, but the subwoofer sound would get saturated whenever there was noises that were too loud, it died after 6 years and so I replaced it with a 2.1 Philips setup, with this one I never hear the subwoofer even when there are explosions and loud noises in movies (so I am wondering if it even works properly) and the speakers sound like they are covered by bed sheets and positioned miles away (even if they are right in front of me behind the monitor.)

As for being comfy, I switched to a couch since 2008, so no problem there.


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I suggest again that you don't aim for as closer to perfect as possible image quality, but instead aim for good enough
Okay, could you suggest me PC monitors that fall under your ideas of "good enough"?


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If you decide that you do need a professional monitor, ask yourself whether the rest of your setup capable of using the display to its full potential?
Probably not.
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Old 2012-04-15, 20:13   Link #24
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honestly for your needs, the dell u2412m will suit you more than enough. i would invest the rest of the money into some high quality audiophile headphones and a soundcard to drive them.
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Old 2012-04-15, 20:28   Link #25
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honestly for your needs, the dell u2412m will suit you more than enough. i would invest the rest of the money into some high quality audiophile headphones and a soundcard to drive them.
Headphones? I don't need headphones... For my console gaming need I have a 5.1 setup+ receiver+FULLHD TV.

What I need for PC is a good 2.1 setup (5.1 wouldn't do for PC) and a new monitor.

My soundcard is Asus Realtek HD (I think).

From what I can read on CNET the u2412m doesn't have any HDMI connection and isn't very good when it comes to viewing angles, but it's only 250€, so it might be worth it anyways.
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Old 2012-04-15, 22:09   Link #26
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honestly for your needs, the dell u2412m will suit you more than enough. i would invest the rest of the money into some high quality audiophile headphones and a soundcard to drive them.
The problem is that neither the u2412m nor the u2312hm have HDMI ports, it wouldn't be a problem if I had DisplayPort, but I have no idea if my computer has that or not.
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Old 2012-04-15, 23:25   Link #27
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You can't use DVI? HDMI is DVI with audio. You can run the HDMI out of whatever thing you're running into the monitor with a converter cable and pull audio through another source.
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Old 2012-04-16, 02:52   Link #28
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use an HDMI to DVI adapter or cable like synaesthic said. as for driving audio through the toslink optical port, there are multiple ways to hook it up to your future desktop speakers. i'm sure you can think of something since you set up a 5.1 home theater yourself.

but i really suggest you head over to head-fi to ask what desktop speakers you should get since you have cash to burn. i've seen some people get m-audio or swan speakers for their desktop but i never really looked into that sort of stuff.

use google to find out what a displayport looks like.
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Old 2012-04-16, 04:47   Link #29
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No, you should not head to head-fi for anything. The whole place is built upon bullshit and selling the absurdly overpriced gear of their sponsors. Objectivity doesn't exist there.
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Old 2012-04-16, 09:44   Link #30
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http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1366924

There are a lot of well-informed people hanging out at AVS Forum. I'm sure there are other relevant threads there as well.
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Old 2012-04-16, 10:26   Link #31
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I read that the LED Ultrasharp of Dell are not 8-bit and the IPS is not a true IPS. Is that true?
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Old 2012-04-16, 10:28   Link #32
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http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1366924

There are a lot of well-informed people hanging out at AVS Forum. I'm sure there are other relevant threads there as well.
I was thinking of getting either one of these two:

http://www.teufelaudio.co.uk/pc/motiv-2-p167.html

http://www.teufelaudio.co.uk/pc/conc...set-p1053.html
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Old 2012-04-16, 13:59   Link #33
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I read that the LED Ultrasharp of Dell are not 8-bit and the IPS is not a true IPS. Is that true?
It uses an e-IPS panel. Most of those are 6bit + AFRC, but occasionally you do get 8bit ones as well. If you know the panel model you can easily google it up, to see if it is a 8bit or 6bit panel.
Think tftcentral have a list of the different LCD panels and their properties, here is the link
But most people won't be able to tell the difference anyway, unless they have another screen to compare it to, side by side.
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Old 2012-04-16, 17:40   Link #34
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When watching animu, is it better to have a 23" 1920x1080 monitor or a 24" 1920x1200?

Because I read in reviews, that 24" 1920x1200 could pose problems with black bars and such because movies/animu/tv shows are in widescreen and adapted for 16:9 1920x1080 and not made for 16:10 1920x1200.
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Old 2012-04-16, 19:58   Link #35
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16:9 means no black bars. Thus its best for watching animu, along with TV and other stuff that comes in 16:9 ratio.

Of course just about everything else is better off 16:10 1920x1200. Depends on how important watching anime is in your computer usage, since web browsing, etc, will all benefit from having some more pixels that 16:10 ratio would provide.
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Old 2012-04-16, 20:48   Link #36
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16:9 means no black bars. Thus its best for watching animu, along with TV and other stuff that comes in 16:9 ratio.
Does the size of the monitor matter to 16:9? Because I have seen monitors who are 23" and 27" being listed as 16:9. From what I can tell 16:10 is usually affiliated with 24".


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Of course just about everything else is better off 16:10 1920x1200. Depends on how important watching anime is in your computer usage, since web browsing, etc, will all benefit from having some more pixels that 16:10 ratio would provide.
Animu is the most important (along with movies and video games of course), web browsing isn't all the important. Though I guess 16:10 would be better to read scanlations? Or is 4:3 better for scanlations?
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Old 2012-04-16, 22:03   Link #37
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Scanalations don't really fit well onto any standard aspect ratio. Since the other things don't matter, it comes down to your hate for black bars.

Despite the black bars, I would go with the 24 inch 16:10, even displaying 16:9 content 24 inch 16:10 provides more viewing area than 23 inch 16:9. 20.025x11.314in vs 20.352x12.720in. Of course some people really hate their black bars.

Whether the size matters depends on whether you want the largest possible image, or no black bars. 16:9 at any size will have no black bars while 16:10 at any size will. Size of image depends on the size of the screen though.
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Old 2012-04-16, 22:34   Link #38
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Scanalations don't really fit well onto any standard aspect ratio.
I use the program CDisplay, on my 17" 4:3 it looks great, but I tried on a widescreen once and it looked weird and distorted.


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Whether the size matters depends on whether you want the largest possible image, or no black bars. 16:9 at any size will have no black bars while 16:10 at any size will. Size of image depends on the size of the screen though.
So I can get any size wether it be 23", 24" or 27" and it won't look weird as long as it's 1920x1080 16:9, correct? Because from looking at different models, I never seen any 25" or 26", so I guessed there were different standards of sizes depending on the resolution and formats.
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Old 2012-04-17, 02:27   Link #39
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As long as you keep the aspect ratio fixed, the image will not look weird. It will only look out of place if you stretch the image to fit the screen, and if the screen has a different aspect ratio .
Don't quote me, but IIRC screens bigger than 24" have nowadays a bigger resolution than 1920x1200. 27" and 30" panels have at least 2560x1440 nowadays.
As for comic scans, you do not want to stretch the image. Depending on the source you should be able to fit two pages, next to each other, on the screen.
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Old 2012-04-17, 10:44   Link #40
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The image won't stretch. It will just have black bars around it if the screen isn't 16:9.
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