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Old 2013-06-15, 21:45   Link #1161
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He did say it, I took that from the afterword of volume 11. Read it yourself.
I read it, it prove my words:
No I mean best friend! But Ise who is even more popular than the good-looking guy…….
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Old 2013-06-15, 21:48   Link #1162
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wild lion,I think that is possible that le fay join in the harem.she maybe can be one of the servants of ise(maybe bishop).
for now I'm curious about if one noble vampire girl fall for ise.maybe the leader of carmilla faction can be one local wife.
I don't like the idea of La Fey being a servant for Issei, she is in Vali's team there really isn't a reason for her to join Isseis peerage. Nah the pure bloods have been shown to be incredibly racist and look down on anyone that isn't a pure blood. Maybe some half-vampire will fall for Issei or maybe Valerie but the vampires were protrayed as being insensitive and pretty much cold hearted people, but anything can happen.
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Old 2013-06-15, 21:49   Link #1163
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wild lion,I think that is possible that le fay join in the harem.she maybe can be one of the servants of ise(maybe bishop).
for now I'm curious about if one noble vampire girl fall for ise.maybe the leader of carmilla faction can be one local wife.
Yeah, I am agree with you, She is so cute and is a Issei fan, for me she will be a future servant of Issei who begin with a magic pact, I desire to read how is the vampire princess and maybe see her in a picture.
Maybe the next cover is Le Fay.
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Hey cyberdemon an peinmaximus@, what do you think of Le Fay? about join in the harem in Issei house in a future arc?
since she isn't a new character and has already showed interest in Ise I think the chances are good. Unlike many of the rest of her group, she never participated in any illegal acts. Outside the top people in the factions, many probably don't even know of her existence. The higher ups would probably be willing to give Vali's group a break since they did help out on multiple occasions like with Loki, saving Asia, during the invasion of the underworld. at the very least, erasing the past of 1 girl who never really participated with them and was only with them to look after her brother, isn't too hard to do.
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Old 2013-06-15, 21:52   Link #1165
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I read it, it prove my words:
No I mean best friend! But Ise who is even more popular than the good-looking guy…….
Haha take it from me that whole statement's a *wink**wink* to Kiba's status in the harem. When something's worded like that it's meant to portray the authors actual thoughts on the matter before "changing his mind". Like a "the truth slipped out" situation.

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since she isn't a new character and has already showed interest in Ise I think the chances are good. Unlike many of the rest of her group, she never participated in any illegal acts. Outside the top people in the factions, many probably don't even know of her existence. The higher ups would probably be willing to give Vali's group a break since they did help out on multiple occasions like with Loki, saving Asia, during the invasion of the underworld. at the very least, erasing the past of 1 girl who never really participated with them and was only with them to look after her brother, isn't too hard to do.
Very true, the Vali team are Anti-Heroes. Vali is Batman to Isseis Superman.
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Old 2013-06-15, 21:54   Link #1166
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since she isn't a new character and has already showed interest in Ise I think the chances are good. Unlike many of the rest of her group, she never participated in any illegal acts. Outside the top people in the factions, many probably don't even know of her existence. The higher ups would probably be willing to give Vali's group a break since they did help out on multiple occasions like with Loki, saving Asia, during the invasion of the underworld. at the very least, erasing the past of 1 girl who never really participated with them and was only with them to look after her brother, isn't too hard to do.
I am agree with you cyberdemon, you are right in all, and also I think that she is the one in DXD universe that can teach Issei some of Magic(For be Issei DXD magic)
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Old 2013-06-15, 21:56   Link #1167
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I am agree with you cyberdemon, you are right in all, and also I think that she is the one in DXD universe that can teach Issei some of Magic(For be Issei DXD magic)
I see her becoming his contractor maybe, but not a member of his peerage. If she gives up on being human and turns into a devil she will lose her magic. It's stated in volume 4 I think by Rias during the attack on the peace conference. If a magician turns into a devil they lose the ability to do human magic and basically have to learn devil magic.
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Old 2013-06-15, 22:11   Link #1168
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I see her becoming his contractor maybe, but not a member of his peerage. If she gives up on being human and turns into a devil she will lose her magic. It's stated in volume 4 I think by Rias during the attack on the peace conference. If a magician turns into a devil they lose the ability to do human magic and basically have to learn devil magic.
quote please. I don't remember such a statement. Besides. Akeno know plenty of magic. Asia is learning magic, etc... it says in volume 4 that human magic was actually based around the magic of devils.

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Old 2013-06-15, 22:15   Link #1169
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quote please. I don't remember such a statement
Volume 4, Life 4, part 4

“In short, it means that humans can use powers like those of devils. Though, of course, it also seems to be possible that they can’t become devils themselves. It’s especially troublesome when a Sacred Gear possessor learns magic. Well, their attacks aren’t capable of damaging this school building. Because the strongest protective barrier by me, Sirzechs, and Michael is enveloping this place. Though, thanks to that, we can’t leave here.”

So basically if La Fey either La Fey can't become a devil or if she becomes a devil she can't use magic anymore. Maybe it was translated wrong or I'm reading too much into it but that isn't the first time they've said something like this, also I can't remember where the other statement is but I have a feeling it's somewhere in the Loki arc.
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Old 2013-06-15, 22:20   Link #1170
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Volume 4, Life 4, part 4

“In short, it means that humans can use powers like those of devils. Though, of course, it also seems to be possible that they can’t become devils themselves. It’s especially troublesome when a Sacred Gear possessor learns magic. Well, their attacks aren’t capable of damaging this school building. Because the strongest protective barrier by me, Sirzechs, and Michael is enveloping this place. Though, thanks to that, we can’t leave here.”

So basically if La Fey either La Fey can't become a devil or if she becomes a devil she can't use magic anymore. Maybe it was translated wrong or I'm reading too much into it but that isn't the first time they've said something like this, also I can't remember where the other statement is but I have a feeling it's somewhere in the Loki arc.
That's only speculation on their part. it's probably just that no magicians have been reincarnated so far. doesn't mean that they can't.
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Old 2013-06-15, 22:23   Link #1171
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That's only speculation on their part. it's probably just that no magicians have been reincarnated so far. doesn't mean that they can't.
But the possibility it's true is also there. I'm just gonna wait and see I'm currently rereading all the novels and am on volume 5, if I see the other statement made about magicians losing their powers if turned into devils I'll post it. Although I tend to believe it since the person making that statement is Azazel and he usually knows what he's talking about.
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Old 2013-06-15, 23:24   Link #1172
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But the possibility it's true is also there. I'm just gonna wait and see I'm currently rereading all the novels and am on volume 5, if I see the other statement made about magicians losing their powers if turned into devils I'll post it. Although I tend to believe it since the person making that statement is Azazel and he usually knows what he's talking about.
Azazel is a scientific who likes investigate, that are theories, and a good example that the theories of Azazel don't work always is issei insane miracles with his team.
And following the essence of the DxD Universe I think that in the furure arc Le Fay will join Issei harem, and she and Ophis(before General of Khaos) will be together again, but now in issei house.
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Old 2013-06-15, 23:35   Link #1173
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That's only speculation on their part. it's probably just that no magicians have been reincarnated so far. doesn't mean that they can't.
That's not true. There is at least a magician who has been reincarnated, it's McGregor, one of Sirzechs' servants.
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Azazel is a scientific who likes investigate, that are theories, and a good example that the theories of Azazel don't work always is issei insane miracles with his team.
And following the essence of the DxD Universe I think that in the furure arc Le Fay will join Issei harem, and she and Ophis(before General of Khaos) will be together again, but now in issei house.
Well yea he's a scientist type like Ajuka. But if you pay attention to what he actually does he foreshadows all of Isseis power-ups, who told Issei that breasts have an infinite number amount of uses thus making them basically be his power-up source? Azazel. Who put it in his mind about poking breasts, which eventually lead to a power up? Azazel. You're under estimating him big time man. There's more to him than meets the eye. Re-read the books and alot of what Azazel does have a reason, look how he reacted when Issei got recharging powers from Rias' boobs, he looked ecstatic like a theory he had come up with had paid off.

Sorry I don't see it that way, I can see La Fey contracting with Issei. She's already basically living with Issei at the moment so I saw that coming. But for some reason, from what I've read, I don't see Ophis being anything other than a mascot character who is like a little sister to everyone maybe occasionally helps out like she did with Asia.


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That's not true. There is at least a magician who has been reincarnated, it's McGregor, one of Sirzechs' servants.
Yup, but it isn't known if he kept his magic powers or had to learn devil ones. All that's known is he's been a legendary figure in the magical world. We don't know much about him at the moment only that he USED to be a magician.
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Old 2013-06-16, 00:06   Link #1175
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Well yea he's a scientist type like Ajuka. But if you pay attention to what he actually does he foreshadows all of Isseis power-ups, who told Issei that breasts have an infinite number amount of uses thus making them basically be his power-up source? Azazel. Who put it in his mind about poking breasts, which eventually lead to a power up? Azazel. You're under estimating him big time man. Re-read the books and alot of what Azazel does have a reason, look how he reacted when Issei got recharging powers from Rias' boobs, he looked ecstatic like a theory he had come up with had paid off.

Sorry I don't see it that way, I can see La Fey contracting with Issei. She's already basically living with Issei at the moment so I saw that coming. But for some reason, from what I've read, I don't see Ophis being anything other than a mascot character who is like a little sister to everyone maybe occasionally helps out like she did with Asia.



Yup, but it isn't known if he kept his magic powers or had to learn devil ones. We don't know much about him at the moment only that he USED to be a magician.
well even if they have to relearn it, it isn't much different. fact is that it was mentioned that human magic originated from devil's magic. Though probably it is more of a matter of learning to harness demonic power rather than human magical power when using spells. once they have knowledge of converting one into the other, it would probably be easy for them to harness their spells again.
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Old 2013-06-16, 00:07   Link #1176
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well even if they have to relearn it, it isn't much different. fact is that it was mentioned that human magic originated from devil's magic. Though probably it is more of a matter of learning to harness demonic power rather than human magical power when using spells. once they have knowledge of that, it would probably be easy for them to harness their magic again.
True enough. Damnit why doesn't Ishibumi release a "World of DxD" book! There so many things I'd love to read about!

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Devil can uses magic
That's Asgardian Magic. Remember Vali had to learn some and it was different to Devil magic. Devil magic is what human magic originated from, Asgardian magic is a whole other can of beans.
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Old 2013-06-16, 00:47   Link #1178
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It would be strange if devils can't use any types of magic but Asgardian Magic...
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Old 2013-06-16, 00:52   Link #1179
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It would be strange if devils can't use any types of magic but Asgardian Magic...
Not at all, humans developed their magic because they couldn't use devil magic so they modified it to fit theirs. Just because they use human magic doesn't mean they can't learn devil magic when they become servants. What I think is that human magic is like a hybrid of devil and asgardian magic.
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How about angel and fallen angel I think they also have magic that close to holy power I think, does magician lose magic if he/she was reincarnated to an angel

Well I hope Tiamat appear soon I wonder if issei meet her before maybe she was guise as human though I think it's not kinda possible coz ddraig might sense her dragon presence

I wonder what things will unravel in the future volumes I'm just gonna wait it patience is a virtue

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